The two republics' economies are fucked and wrecked.
You cannot have an army if you can't afford to pay, equip, or feed them.
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The two republics' economies are fucked and wrecked.
You cannot have an army if you can't afford to pay, equip, or feed them.
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More to the point, our army is enormous. He'd be waging a land war against a country that has several times its own population, and also has a sophisticated industry to back that army up.
It's suicide to wage a land war against us when you also have multiple other threats on your border, since we can draw on a lot more men, resources and even other nations than any of our neighbors can.
Napoleon actually managed, by bleeding France dry, so I would not fully discard the possibility.
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He conquered in a line towards Moscow instead of, like.
Conquering Ukraine, setting up winter quarters there and using local discontent against Russia. Or something.
Basically pulling a Karl 12, only successfully due to having a humongous army which can take and win direct conflict.
I am not sure why he hurried so much. Even if Russians gathered their entire army, they would still have lesser numbers.
Which is why Russians preferred to retreat and use attrition against him. Logistics won the war, not the army battles.
They managed it IRL though.
Via mass conscription and other things we don't have.
We do not have mass conscription like they do, so their army is likely bigger and more organized to boot.
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It would be funny if the Not!France break away colonies adopt Monarchy.
Yes, Napoléon attacked Russia to get it to stop trade with the British, but to do the same with the trade nation Ymaryn/Gylruv to force it into a war it so far stood out of would be even more of a mad gamble than rl situation.
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You're making the mistake of assuming that we are the same as Russia, and that they are the same as France. OTL Russia did not have a sophisticated (AN words) economy backing up a massive (Again, AN words) army.
It's not going to be fun for anyone trying to invade our territory, and there's little to really be gained by doing so, especially when our Russia has diplo contacts with pretty much everyone.
Making a lot of assumptions there. You're assuming an absolute worst case scenario, aka 'We are OTL Russia, and they are OTL france', rather than keeping in mind any changes to this timeline. Not saying they aren't a threat, but just assuming that the republics are just going to wage war against a diplomatic and military powerhouse for little to no reason makes no sense.
Haven't we had levee en masse for literal ages?
He hurried so much because he had to strip all other fronts to gather his army.
Any of his neighbors attacking would face only token resistance.
Him losing this army was his effective death because he literally had not enough left.
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[X] [Kyberi] 1 PW - Send in proper negotiators and scholars to sort it all out (-1 Temp Happiness, +1 Temp Consciousness, situation resolved, ???)
[X] [Crisis] 1 PW - Send aid to the Kielmyr (-1 temp SoL, +1 Temp Trust)
[X] [Paying] 0 PW - Bank and Business Fun
-[X] [Paying] +1 Temp IC
[X] [Crisis] 1 PW - Send aid to the Kielmyr (-1 temp SoL, +1 Temp Trust)
[X] [Paying] 0 PW - Bank and Business Fun
-[X] [Paying] +1 Temp IC
I mean he literally attacked because OTL Russia did this:
[] [Crisis] 1 PW - Send aid to the Kielmyr (-1 temp SoL, +1 Temp Trust)
Except with different countries.
And he wanted them to stop. Otherwise he wouldn't have taken the gamble in attacking so far away and stretching his resources so thin.
In our case? If we were willing to open trade with him then well...look, he has enemies in every direction. Knowing the Ymaryn side seriously doesn't want to take a swing at the Republics would be plenty. Because the best he can manage is to gamble everything if he did.
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Nah.
Levée en masse - Wikipedia
They pretty much got the ball rolling on the style of warfare that led to WW1 and 2.
We had more of Roman-esque one, but yes.
I imagine we've lost it with the fall of the empire, and if not, it's still only about arming urban populace and not every able-bodied man of appropriate age.
They have a reason: "liberation".
Or, well, we are big and tasty. Why not?
Napoleon did attack OTL Russia for subversive activities tbh, but I am not sure...well. Maybe you are right.
@Academia Nut , what is the mutual opinion between us and those republics?
OTL one did some more aggressive things diplomatically. And also participated in the war against France before it (losing badly at Austerlitz).
Levée en masse - Wikipedia
They pretty much got the ball rolling on the style of warfare that led to WW1 and 2.
We had more of Roman-esque one, but yes.
I imagine we've lost it with the fall of the empire, and if not, it's still only about arming urban populace and not every able-bodied man of appropriate age.
They have a reason: "liberation".
Or, well, we are big and tasty. Why not?
Napoleon did attack OTL Russia for subversive activities tbh, but I am not sure...well. Maybe you are right.
@Academia Nut , what is the mutual opinion between us and those republics?
OTL one did some more aggressive things diplomatically. And also participated in the war against France before it (losing badly at Austerlitz).
Yep. Which we avoided entirely. He has no reason to think that "the giant country over there hates me(because they literally intervened in every way short of sending an army) and once they get off their lazy ass they'd come for us, so I should strike first".
Remember, the philosophers kicking off the movement are all Ymaryn University trained. He has SOME reason to expect, if not entirely a friendly reception, a disinterestedly tolerant one.
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OTOH we are a filthy monarchy and they have a Liberation CB on all of those I imagine.
Let's see what AN answers; our diplomats probably know whether we are at risk of being attacked within next, like, 10 years.
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That was pretty much the modus operandi for the French republic until the Consulate.
Otl!France had to deal with internal revolts against the capital, revolts of the capital against the rest of the country, the struggle between the various republicans and monarchists for control, organized rebellion of the catholic church, famine, economical crisis, hyperinflation and a whole lot more.
It still managed to raise an army of more than 800.000 men and thrash its neighbours.
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Revolutionary Frederick the Great has a liberation CB against the Kielmyr for Schleswig and Holstein here. I don't that he or the Hespranxer have one against us. Though selling weapons to the Kielmyr could make him put us on the list, but I he has to deal with the Ochruhr first. The Hespranxer are also likely higher on it, because he wants Elsaß and Lothringen.
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At the moment, what amounts to mass looting, basically. One of the major appeals for the nobility is that if they join up early they get to keep significant of their property, whereas if they fight and lose, they might not just lose their life but the lives of their immediate family while having their ancestral possessions stripped for everything of liquidizable value and their land "rationalized". Many, many estate gardens have been ploughed over for farmland and crown forests cleared for immediately sellable wood and more land. Also, the Tortuns especially were a patchwork nightmare of gavelkind border gore, going down in a few places to individual rooms being owned by different lords who live on the other side of the empire. Large swaths were let to go fallow because each individual piece was so small, divided, and snaking that they simply weren't worth developing.
That cleaned up border gore is also another reason that the lower nobility has been jumping over to the Tortun Republic as soon as possible: many lesser barons and the like realized that they had essentially no opportunities to better their lot as nobles, but they could sign up as managers and officers and could go very, very far.
The fact that the fights have gone from 5v1 to two 1v2 fights has taken enormous strain off both Republics.
You have had some degree of conscription in a Roman-Republic or city state militia model, but in recent years a small core of professional soldiers has been seen as preferrable to just sticking a gun in every man's hands. Conscripts break at the first volley too easily, you need well trained men to be able to hold the line while advancing to bayonet range.
(Now, if those conscripts were motivated by something other than feudal obligation...)
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So they are doing way better than OTL, what with flipping Prussia into Republic.
welp
we are fucked if we get into a fight?
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It's actually the Saxons here, you kind of strangled Prussia in the crib by helping the Kielmyr directly and indirectly claim most of the Baltics.
Also, it will really depend on what sort of fight you get in.
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It sounds like our model can pull ENORMOUS levies...but only in defense at present. We can't motivate them enough otherwise.
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And that's why we must support the Republic. They're going to win anyway, we may as well take advantage of this to grab more clay.