This.
I actually changed my vote back to supporting Kielmyr - I now want France to attack us.
Paths of Civilization II: Paths of Industrialization
This.
I actually changed my vote back to supporting Kielmyr - I now want France to attack us.
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DON'T PANIC
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I don't think they're guaranteed to win. The Republic lost it's colonies, it's economic is unstable and propped with self-destructive looting of important assets.
That works, for a while, but it will either need to go through painfull reforms or collapse completely.
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Uh.
Look at most of "Xth Coalition against France".
France won those, despite economy being in the gutter.
Gun is a great equalizer, in that peasant with two weeks of bootcamp has a good shot at killing a lifelong warfare veteran.
Now, being organized as army and not a bunch of dudes is hard, yes; but once the Republics grow an officer corps enough to be in the same ballpark as the others', the numeric advantage + some of elan (not all of it, as quite a lot of those drafted would much rather not, but some are likely quite motivated) will be quite scary.
The Republican economy seem to resemble Nazi Germany more than Republican France, being based on war loot and expropriation and liquidation of enemy assets. That kind of thing burns hard and fast, but it also crashes very hard when the expansion stops.
The kind of land reform that AN mentions will help in the long turn, but that's on the order of a generation, and by then they'll be dead. Their (monarchical based on OTL) successors might thank them for it, but for them the administrative burden and disruption caused by land reform should be an upfront cost that makes things even worse for them.
It lost all of them strategically, as the only way to win was knocking the UK out of the war, and it couldn't ever do that.
The kind of land reform that AN mentions will help in the long turn, but that's on the order of a generation, and by then they'll be dead. Their (monarchical based on OTL) successors might thank them for it, but for them the administrative burden and disruption caused by land reform should be an upfront cost that makes things even worse for them.
It lost all of them strategically, as the only way to win was knocking the UK out of the war, and it couldn't ever do that.
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Cornuthaum
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I most strongly suggest that, after we lay rail lines east, we Manifest Destiny all of Kyberia at literal, actual gunpoint.
Getting locked out of pacific trade would suck.
The Sextons look like they could stabilize their economy, given enough time. They had a lot of land they didn't use and consolidating everything is going to leave their economy a lot more efficient. The Hespranxers on the other hand are cut of from their colonies and have to deal with the economy in their core being rotten.
My personal plan for all of this is to stand back from it as much as possible and wait for Europe to bury itself in debt and dead men. Having an outdated army is dangerous, but you know what's worse? Getting permanently demographically wrecked because a significant percentage of your young men just died. OTL France never recovered from the losses it took in the Napoleonic wars.
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We could covertly support the monarchists in the colonies. That's pretty much a recipe for civil war.
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Russo-Japanese War does not have my support. At the very least because Moonson Sea port allows acces to a lot of interesting markets and we will have our hands full fielding navy to protect existent trade.
Unlikely to work right now given the angry monarchs bearing down on them, but let's keep that up our sleeve.
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Note that their economies aren't based on plunder, it is just plunder is what is keeping them afloat through economic chaos and foreign wars. They are also engaging in liberalizing reforms that will make their economies much stronger than before the revolutions.
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Cornuthaum
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Straight up, why?
Getting locked out of the pacific would be right dreadful for trade (money, delicious, delicious money), winning a war is good for national prestige, and we have thallasocratic ambitions which most assuredly means we want as many ports in as many places as we can physically get.
In fact, I would very much suggest we Colonialize some of the pacific islands and spots of the American west coast (or, say, take over Hawaii) and Madagascar and then put fleet bases there, everywhere, to extend our reach.
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Lasting peace means they will have time to build themselves up, which means we will fall even further behind, which means that they will eventually take a swing at us and win.
We don't want for them to be at peace.
Because wars are expensive and deadly. Sometimes they're necessary, but we could easily lose more in a war than we'd make from the ports for decades.
Why would we do that? We're already close to everything important.