It might of replaced the Death Star, but it got hijacked by Maul and destroyed by a Jedi strike force, so Palpatine never got to find out how it worked. Besides Palpatine would have 'Imperialised' it and built some kind of weakness into it.
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It might of replaced the Death Star, but it got hijacked by Maul and destroyed by a Jedi strike force, so Palpatine never got to find out how it worked. Besides Palpatine would have 'Imperialised' it and built some kind of weakness into it.
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...I'm not sure I follow. There's been suggestions for "human-looking but with clear robotic parts" just as much as "can't tell the difference between him and a human at first glance." Don't worry about it.
There's also a number of other issues I'll bring up once the update rolls around (but one of them starts with "most of the ship's power is dedicated to the giant cannon and nothing else if you want it to fire"). Also it was some random Nightsister that tried to hijack the ship, not Maul.
Say what you will about the Death Star, but you can't deny that being the size of a moon deals with problems like "where will the power supply come from" or "how will it stand up to an enemy fleet?"
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Yeah, but he'd have known it existed...and the people who designed it ain't dead right?
And even then he could have probably built 100 of em for every Death Star assuming of course the inevitable sci fi design flaws.
Speak of the devil.
1. We don't know how this worked we just threw shit at a wall and something stuck.
2. We do know how it works in one word: Force BS
3. We do know how it works, but it only works because of some unique thingy of which there is of course only one in the entire universe.
4. Some combination of all of the above
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I don't know if it's ever stated but the implication in the source material was that #1 was what happened.
From the wiki: "This weapon has turned out to be far more powerful than we had first imagined." As said by Count Dooku himself.
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Well if its one then it should be replicable.
Just redo the experiment/building and see if it happens again, if it doesn't well then try something else. SCIENCE!!!
As for the issue of most the ship is a giant gun...yeah its a problem. Thing is though I'd imagine that you could build a fair old number of these for every deathstar and that they're a fair bit faster too.
Mix em into a big fleet of star destroyers and get em into position only one actually needs to hit. Even if you loose all, but one still probably cheaper than loosing a death star.
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Kerbals work for the CIS confirmed.
This is Palpatine we're talking about, he was obsessed with the Death Star because the way it was staffed meant no one person or group could seize control of it and the inter-organisational rivalries prevented them from trusting each other long enough to team up. You can't trust a single ship with that sort of firepower, the Captain/Admiral/Grand Admiral running it would go rogue in five minutes as the power went to their head.
To him the Death Star wasn't just a way to strike fear in the Galaxy, it was get out of directly ruling so he could go back to studying the Dark Side.
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Oh yeah...eh he probably should have still had one spare crewed by his red guard or something. Just in case he needed to make a point.
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Well if its one then it should be replicable.
Just redo the experiment/building and see if it happens again, if it doesn't well then try something else. SCIENCE!!!
Oh sure, they can get the budget from the other dozen wunderwaffen being built at the same time and the fifty different bioweapons being developed. I'm sure the other divisions won't mind
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The fact that most of the ship is dedicated to the massive gun (unlike Malevolence which could at least fight back well enough) is why I said that the old roll, knowing our luck, probably broke the important part. In which case the Chiss get a seven-kilometer piece of scrap metal
(The new roll, meanwhile, probably steals some of the escort fleet too)
(The new roll, meanwhile, probably steals some of the escort fleet too
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Bah if those other divisions want their funding so damn much they should deliver an actual product that works, contributes meaningfully to the war effort and actually meets expectations for a change rather than getting shut down instantly by the nearest JediOh sure, they can get the budget from the other dozen wunderwaffen being built at the same time and the fifty different bioweapons being developed. I'm sure the other divisions won't mind
.We deal in big ass guns that not only work, but go beyond expectations
Okay I'm trying to think of other problems the Devastation would face (since as with its sister Malevolence it's basically a super weapon built with a ship around it):
1) It's slower (both ion engines and hyperdrive) compared to other ships meaning that it takes time to get into optimal firing range.
2) It takes a good while to manoeuvre the ship, so incoming dangers (asteroids, shots, mad pilots) have to be tanked.
3) It's size means it needs a large number of crew members just be a skeletal crew and the Chiss literally don't have enough crewmen available to pilot it. Droids can be provided, but traditionalist Chiss officers don't trust them compared to a flesh and blood crew.
4) The superweapon needs maintance after every shot or needs to vent excess large amounts of vapour/gases, thus gifting it a large recharge time.
1) It's slower (both ion engines and hyperdrive) compared to other ships meaning that it takes time to get into optimal firing range.
2) It takes a good while to manoeuvre the ship, so incoming dangers (asteroids, shots, mad pilots) have to be tanked.
3) It's size means it needs a large number of crew members just be a skeletal crew and the Chiss literally don't have enough crewmen available to pilot it. Droids can be provided, but traditionalist Chiss officers don't trust them compared to a flesh and blood crew.
4) The superweapon needs maintance after every shot or needs to vent excess large amounts of vapour/gases, thus gifting it a large recharge time.
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Notice where I said "jury-rig" and "without safeguards for collision." Unless there's some weird nature about hyperspace where if you're going above a certain speed and approaching a certain gravitational threshhold it immediately kicks you out of hyperspace at a certain distance. But I always considered that to be caused by those "collision safeguards" I mentioned.
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....not realy, how the hyperspace works in star wars is that the "collision safeguards" are kinda a keypart that makes it work, you would need to make a different ftl system.
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Note: This was retconned in Disney... right after they introduced the inderdictor warships.
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just, fuck disney. thats so stupid.
Wouldn't the Hyperspace Collision tactic only ever work outside the mass shadow of a gravity well, it's effectively useless inside a well populated system or near anything of value.
Huh, that kinda explains why everything is focused on planets rather than space colonies, free perfect defence from Hyperspace collision weapons.
Huh, that kinda explains why everything is focused on planets rather than space colonies, free perfect defence from Hyperspace collision weapons.
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I know I might be a bit late for submitting android PR-1 (Curse you work! Curse Yooooooooou!) but here's my suggestion:
complete with bonus singing subroutines!
complete with bonus singing subroutines!
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Wait. So, PR one is getting an android body, right?
Then why aren't we going for the ultimate Social-fu-ist for his new bod?
I assume he's getting combat protocols for using blasters anyways.
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Then why aren't we going for the ultimate Social-fu-ist for his new bod?
I assume he's getting combat protocols for using blasters anyways.
[X] PR-Ocelot
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Because it would bring us one step closer to Solid and Liquid Ciaran'ssquabbling over The Comfy Chair epic showdown.
Because it would bring us one step closer to Solid and Liquid Ciaran's
No, Disney retconned mass shadows away. Incidentally, this turns every ship into a potential WMD if they ram planets at hyperspeed.
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Just finished reading the rolls, and am catching up with the rest of the thread byond it. but I have to coment at this point..
I don't buy this, annoying Padme is one of our great joys. something else must be going on here. she must be avoiding us for some reason. perhaps she ran after Anikin? or is the force steering our attention away from here so we don't notice something.
after all, it's around the right time for a certain cannon event to happen, which is defiantly something we would notice with our force sight if we were in regular close contact with her
I don't buy this, annoying Padme is one of our great joys. something else must be going on here. she must be avoiding us for some reason. perhaps she ran after Anikin? or is the force steering our attention away from here so we don't notice something.
after all, it's around the right time for a certain cannon event to happen, which is defiantly something we would notice with our force sight if we were in regular close contact with her
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naw man, we were GOING to annoy her, but we past out in her room and she helped us relax a bit, what with all the massive amounts of shit we are having done.
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With that Padme roll... could we be getting a 'Cheer up Ciaran' action from Padme Quest finally?