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Controlled by your left hemisphere of your brain. The thing to remember is, if at any point you think that I'm wrong, you should look at the ways in which I'm actually correct, because I am never wrong.

This is a truism.
 
...this is getting very silly and, more importantly, off-topic, so I'm just gonna cut things off here before my brain explodes from the sheer lack of logic involved in that statement. :V
 
maybe that omakes are a guilty pleasure
or he likes good ones but usually there are lot of bad ones for every good one or a bunch of so-so ones and he would have to look through every conversation snippet and it gets tiring
 
So... In one night I misses something like 5 pages of the peanut gallery... (And I skipped all of them, please tell me if anything important came up.)

Ok, on the star-ship issue... I vote the death star.
 
It occurs to me that for a knowledgeable mage in the setting, someone for whom the existence of souls and afterlives are a verified fact there may not be much incentive to seek immortality, for themselves or anyone else. They've already got it. Unless they have a pressing reason to stay materially incarnate making sure their souls make it to their selected, desirable afterlives intact is likely a priority over keeping the meat running.

Has Cadmus gotten into Homo Magi/Para-psychic research yet? Cause like I said:
The Genomorphs are interested, if that counts. To quote Dubbilex:

**Based on what I have learned today concerning magic, preliminary work has begun on the G-Fae and G-Oni forms. Though I fear that the development of the G-Succubus may need-**
 
I wonder who the next magic user is.

If Doctor Mist has the knowledge but not power that means Paul needs to find a magical powerhouse at the least.
 
I wonder, is there any way to keep people from posting to the story only thread and triggering subscription e-mails? It seems to have started happening a lot.
 
But the presence of evil provides an opportunity for further good. What good is charity if no one has need? What good is trust if no one lies? Where is freedom if you are not free to do something besides the objective optimum at all times?
Ah, the "Suffering builds character" argument.
Now, language is a very fuzzy thing, for an example, good is the opposite of bad, but it's also the opposite of evil.
Good and bad are simple concepts, as bad is a thing that you don't want, whilst good is a thing you do want.
Evil is quite ephemeral. For one, it's often used as a synonym for insidious, which is something different. An evil action, I guess, could be defined as doing a bad action on purpose - while knowing it's bad.

Now, human psychology is stupid and incompatible with the modern society, due to various things, including something called the hedonic treadmill. If everything is good, you will lose the ability to appreciate it, because you have nothing to compare it to. However, that doesn't make bad things good, it just means that you, as an individual are flawed, because you cannot appreciate good things.
To get to your specific examples,

It would be for the best if charity was not needed, even if it eliminates the possibility of being charitable. You can, after all, give gifts to people who have no strict needs.

Trust, truth and lies are neither good nor evil in themselves, so that's a moot point. Now, lying may sometimes be good, or bad, and the same goes for truth and trust. However, they fall more on the order/chaos axis.

Is eating food a good or a bad thing? I'm sure anyone can see several cases where it may be either.

Freedom --- let's not mention free will, but instead the ability in society to do things --- may also be a good or a bad thing. On one hand, taking away the freedom of others can be seen as an evil thing, but on the other hand, the freedom to murder anyone who displeases you is not usually something considered good.
Now, there are ways for freedom as an attribute to be, at the very least, fair, but good and evil do not really come to it.

Subjective things are.
 
The word for attraction to teenagers of age 15-19 is ephebophilia, though why we need a word for that is beyond me.
As the Roy Moore thread should have demonstrated, it seems to exist solely so that people can defend molesters of "older children" as not being so bad...
 
Zoat changing a character a bit to fit the story is expected. So long as Dr. Balewa is dating a adult who is giving their honest consent is their a issue? if all parties involved know what they are getting into I don't see any reason for anyone else to get involved.
 
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Zoat changing a character a bit to fit the story is expected. So long as Dr. Balewa is dating a adult who is giving their honest consent is their a issue? Not really all parties involved know what they are getting into.
The issue is that there's no evidence that Nommo ever did anything but that, romantically, and that the most recent target of the thread's indignation was implying otherwise at first, and then trying to claim that people couldn't give consent if they were significantly younger than the person they were looking to fuck.
 
Ah, the "Suffering builds character" argument.
That's... sort of mischaracterizing the serious part of my argument. My argument is that BECAUSE people who willfully do bad things exist, it's important for people to have exposure to a baseline level of such actions in order to prepare the defenses necessary to protect against worse things. For example, you have to know about deceit in order to be skeptical. Otherwise, when someone comes around to try to deceive you, they'll be able to screw you over and you won't be able to do anything about it until it's too late.

Of course, if such "evildoers" didn't exist, then the worst "bad" that you would have to prepare for would be accidents. You wouldn't need a balance between good and evil at that point. But until such a time that you can permanently disable people's ability to be evil, there is a utilitarian benefit to permitting a balanced (not 50/50, just balanced in terms of cost-to-benefit) representation of evil.

The first part of the argument was intentionally metaphysical, going after "good" and "evil" as quantifiable moral concepts in a cosmic sense. I'm well aware that it's a weaker argument, but in a world where metaphysical entities are demonstrably real, these are positions that some of those entities may well take.
 
And I agree with you. However, Paul hasn't read anything about Golden Boy, so he can't plan for him, and Golden Boy hides himself. So it's not possible to be found unless or until he reveals himself to the world.
huh. my bad. i thought i remembered.....
huh. i thought Paul had that in with the resta his hellbalzer meta-knowladge- i guess i just assumed since Constantine was one of the first contacts he reached out to on the magical sidea things, and he knew he'd encountered the inverse of OL's current situation before he knew WHY he was so unlucky (and had taken steps to protect himself)...
 
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I wonder, is there any way to keep people from posting to the story only thread and triggering subscription e-mails? It seems to have started happening a lot.
I don't see the need to receive notifications on the story only thread. Except for that one time Zoat posted an additional segment set in the Marvel universe, Zoat makes precisely one post a day in that thread, and that's the only post that stays there. It's not like you need to skip past a bunch of other posts to get to the story bits.
 
Rule 3: Uncivil Posting
I think she could be good in blue; I don't think it's necessarily better for her than the orange ring she's spent time learning to use already.
Dude, let it go. Paul has been gone from Earth for a couple months at most, which means she has had an orange ring for even less time than that. And the weaponeer has already made a blue lantern in that time. You are way to invested in saying "to late to switch" when her sunk time as an orange lantern is miniscule compared to the rest of her career.

If she could be an acceptable orange lantern but could thrive as a blue lantern (which was OL's assessment in story, that Blue would suit her better), she really should switch over.

To be fair as long as they are old enough to consent what does it matter?
But it makes chaoswind uncomfortable, so obviously they are committing an unforgivable sin.
If everyone who thought they should be entitled to make make policy on other people's choices of romantic partner had their genitals removed and lost the right to ever have relations with another person, the world would be a better place. Some parts of Russia, the Middle East, and the American South might end up completely barren, but overall I think the sacrifice would be worth it.

The reason he wants to keep his descendants alive is because he plans to eventually bone them. He is literally going out of his way to look for his great great grandchildren to bone them in an effort to perfect the bloodline... how isn't that creepy and wrong?
Dude, you are be really creepy right now, and should probably never be allowed any authority whatsoever. If you have a voter registration card, please rip it into tiny pieces. You have no idea how genetics and inheritance works. The longer you live, the more descendants you technically have, and the less it actually matters. Genghis Khan has a measurable percentage of the world population related to him. If HG Well brought him to the modern day and he hooked up with his Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Granddaughter, do know what that means? Just like the Spaceballs scene, absolutely nothing. That's the practical effect of having sex with someone who has 1/524,288th of your DNA.

Or he could throw himself into the Sun and let the new generations be.
Suggesting someone should kill himself because the thought of an old person having sex with a consenting adult younger than him offends you is really fucked up. Seriously, you are coming off like a sociopath. Please, stop posting about it here. I do not want to have to read about your immoral, insane, fucked up thought processes anymore.

He has too much of an advantage, this isn't on the level of a random fourty or fifty year old hooking with someone half his/her age. This is so unbalanced its not even funny.
Not your decision to make. Have you considered hitting yourself in the crotch with a meat tenderizer every time you think these thoughts? Use some pavlovian conditioning to straighten yourself out? Thinking you need to make the decision that an adult woman cannot be allowed to consent to have relations with an older man, and that in an ideal society that decision would be made for her is so fucked up it is not even funny.

so the cultural conditioning to hate these people on pure reflex is nothing to sneeze at.
It sounds like you are proud of your culturally ingrained bigotry.
 
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@BrambleThorn You might be taking this a bit too personally. >.>
I had ten pages to slog through since I checked this thread yesterday, and he just went on and on and on. If it had been just one post it could be treated like one of your grandparents randomly saying something racist in casual conversation, you try to ignore them and move on. But he just kept going and going and going. That sort of stuff is hard to let pass without comment.
 
Warning For Marginal Behavior: Rule 4 - Spaghetti Arguing

No. Unless you're a mod, you don't get to tell me to stop debating. Or, well, you can, but you shouldn't expect me to listen.

Paul has been gone from Earth for a couple months at most, which means she has had an orange ring for even less time than that. And the weaponeer has already made a blue lantern in that time. You are way to invested in saying "to late to switch" when her sunk time as an orange lantern is miniscule compared to the rest of her career.

I believe you highly underestimate the way that Orange thinking changes you, or any spectrum color, really. By standard humanoid biology, methods of thinking become ingrained over time. If that were all we were dealing with, you'd be exactly right. But with Orange in particular, there is a powerful metaphysical force encouraging Koriand'r to think that way even more, and furthermore, this metaphysical force is channeled through an Entity that is highly invested in having her plugged in to Orange and who doesn't really understand restraint very well. Without Paul moderating the Ophidian, she'd already be insane, from what we understand of how Orange works; even with Paul's moderation, I sincerely believe that Koriand'r would have a hard time switching to Blue. Not to mention, the ring is what gave her freedom, personal power, and a people free to become what they will. Why would she want to give that up?

Now, one potential idea is to have her dual-wield. Blue and Orange can co-exist, if not easily, and I can definitely see Koriand'r being the one to figure out the necessary mindset to dual-wield effectively. But outright abandoning Orange makes no sense logically or emotionally to me.

I had ten pages to slog through since I checked this thread yesterday, and he just went on and on and on. If it had been just one post it could be treated like one of your grandparents randomly saying something racist in casual conversation, you try to ignore them and move on. But he just kept going and going and going. That sort of stuff is hard to let pass without comment.

This, on the other hand, I agree with you about. I'm pretty sensitive to power imbalances in relationships and even I think he's gone way beyond "too far".

Have you considered hitting yourself in the crotch with a meat tenderizer every time you think these thoughts? Use some pavlovian conditioning to straighten yourself out?

Nonetheless, this is also way beyond too far.
 
Now, one potential idea is to have her dual-wield. Blue and Orange can co-exist, if not easily, and I can definitely see Koriand'r being the one to figure out the necessary mindset to dual-wield effectively. But outright abandoning Orange makes no sense logically or emotionally to me.

Hopeing for the stuff/outcomes you Want? I could see it.

Nonetheless, this is also way beyond too far.

I took it to be more satirical than anything else.



But seriously could we just stop for now? If he does join, he will meet Zatana. And when he does, we will see if he is has ephebophilia or not.

Although I would personally disagree since he would be interested in her because of her genetics rather than being interested because of her age. Although I am not sure if that is much better. It's certainly not worse though.
 
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