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Who Needs Harmony?: An MLP Empire Quest

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You know, that Omake had me thinking.

For a soldier I imagine that a normal afterlife would get... not boring or dull but I'm sure that it would lose a bit of it's charm. Something similar as to how Riordan tied the whole Elysium and Isles of the Blest concepts together. While Elysium would be good for a while those hardcore heroes/soldiers would most likely be reincarnated for another go because they don't want to see their afterlife become monotone.

Now this omake also shows something very interesting. An eternal Valhala fighting against Ragnarok. In this case instead of having the Norse, the Valkyries and the Einherjer you have the representation of Gryphus and all the soldiers that fell in battle against the Hungering Darkness.
 
Ranger65 said:
Question in the extremely unlikely event we capture Peglices alive what should we do?
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A non-public trial overseen by a neutral 3rd party with reporters and other select witnesses in the stands. We don't want it to turn into a show trial and we want it too be as unbiased as possible. The big problem is that there aren't any international laws against what they did (AKA War Crimes), so it might get a bit weird on what they are actually charged with.

It also makes me think that we might want to pull a Hague Convention and get everyone to agree on what isn't allowed in wars. I don't want people magickly nuking each other or killing civilians.
 
Lurking_Badger said:
A non-public trial overseen by a neutral 3rd party with reporters and other select witnesses in the stands. We don't want it to turn into a show trial and we want it too be as unbiased as possible. The big problem is that there aren't any international laws against what they did (AKA War Crimes), so it might get a bit weird on what they are actually charged with.

It also makes me think that we might want to pull a Hague Convention and get everyone to agree on what isn't allowed in wars. I don't want people magickly nuking each other or killing civilians.
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I would recommend inviting the Princesses if we do go that route. If we can swing it specifically Luna because she was less sympathetic of the two when told of what the Maretonian's were doing and the Abolitionists revolting. Not only are they the one that are most capable of doing magic nukes if pressed it would be a great way to help them get settle in the international community.
 
Obviously, panel of judges should be Princess Celestia, What's Her Name Changeling Queen and What's His Name Dragon King. of Neighpon.
 
[X] Dig In: Park your army within visual range of the city, put it to siege, and wait. With Pegicles forces concentrated as they are, they have to be consuming a great deal of supplies. Supplies that he will find difficult to replenish with his city in an isolated area of the nation, and an army outside ready to intercept any shipments he might try to sneak through. Despite having travelled hundreds of miles, your supply situation is actually better than his! All you have to do is wait him out, and eventually, he'll have no choice but to sally forth from his city to attack you, forcing him to give up the advantage of its defenses.
 
FictionPack said:
Princess Luna, the husband of the leader of Canterbury/Merlin, and the Head of the Crystal Protectorate.
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No, no. Allow me to elaborate on logic:
Princess Celestia, so Luna can rule Equestria for duration and let go of resentment.
Queen Phalanx, a-ka Lady Of the Lake, for mindgames with Changeling and showing respect to Kingdom of Canterbury.
Koryū Ryuō, because he's wise, can leave his kingdom in capable hands and our friend.
They are Neutral, Hostile and Friendly to us respectively, they are major civilized powers, they are neutral in the conflict, so they will look the case from all sides without significant bias.
 
Sentient Tree said:
I think there should be Maretonians represented in the judges. At least the leader of the Abolitionists and the leader of the Royal Guard.
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In a trial you have three groups; the judges, the prosecutors, and the defendants. Obviously the prosecutors would be the Abolitionists, Royal Guard, and House White Star. You can't have the prosecutors also be the judge because then everything is just for show. Ideally, the judge would be someone that just interprets the law and listens to both sides while being unbiased towards each. The defendants would be the members of House Storm individually since just saying the whole house is guilty would kill some innocents.

My biggest worry is that after the war that citizens who only crime is too live in Pegicles will be killed. The trial is meant to go through due process before making any punishments to prevent injustice.
 
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Lurking_Badger said:
In a trial you have three groups; the judges, the prosecutors, and the defendants. Obviously the prosecutors would be the Abolitionists, Royal Guard, and House White Star. You can't have the prosecutors also be the judge because then everything is just for show. Ideally, the judge would be someone that just interprets the law and listens to both sides while being unbiased towards each. The defendants would be the members of House Storm individually since just saying the whole house is guilty would kill some innocents.

My biggest worry is that after the war that citizens who only crime is too live in Pegicles will be killed. The trial is meant to go through due process before making any punishments to prevent injustice.
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Eh, not necessarily. A trial doesn't have to have those three groups, at least not in a manner you would recognize as such. That's one of many trial forms.
 
FictionPack said:
I thought we were going for a form of neutrality?
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Lurking_Badger said:
In a trial you have three groups; the judges, the prosecutors, and the defendants. Obviously the prosecutors would be the Abolitionists, Royal Guard, and House White Star. You can't have the prosecutors also be the judge because then everything is just for show. Ideally, the judge would be someone that just interprets the law and listens to both sides while being unbiased towards each. The defendants would be the members of House Storm individually since just saying the whole house is guilty would kill some innocents.

My biggest worry is that after the war that citizens who only crime is too live in Pegicles will be killed. The trial is meant to go through due process before making any punishments to prevent injustice.
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Maybe judge wasn't the right word. I was thinking more like a jury. He should be tried by a jury of his peers, and that means Maretonians. And it would feel pretty scummy to not let the Maretonians have a say in the prosecution of their most notorious war criminal.
 
Frankly his punishment isn't any of our business.
It's the business of the Abolitionists and the Loyalist Maretonian Royal Guard.
Once we put down his rebellion, we should pull out our army and maybe help the Maretonians set up a new government.
Pegicles is the only reason we had to go to war in the first place but we probably should try to keep the Abolitionists and Royal Guard from fighting the second we are gone.
 
FictionPack said:
Frankly his punishment isn't any of our business.
It's the business of the Abolitionists and the Loyalist Maretonian Royal Guard.
Once we put down his rebellion, we should pull out our army and maybe help the Maretonians set up a new government.
Pegicles is the only reason we had to go to war in the first place but we probably should try to keep the Abolitionists and Royal Guard from fighting the second we are gone.
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If that's all you were planning on having the Empire do, we never should have intervened in the first place -_-

We should take on every opportunity we can to expand our power. A policy of realpolitik, so to speak. Justifiable landgrabs will become rarer and rarer as time goes on. This is a good opportunity to exploit here, and I will never understand why a contigent of you simultaneously wanted to intervene yet don't wish to use our new position of power for anything.

Like, if you are going to claim power and then immediately give it up, what's even the point?
 
Can we try to drag the city closer to us as part of the winning plan? It's confirmed as a dice roll and I'd like to try our odds
 
PyrrosWarrior said:
If that's all you were planning on having the Empire do, we never should have intervened in the first place -_-

We should take on every opportunity we can to expand our power. A policy of realpolitik, so to speak. Justifiable landgrabs will become rarer and rarer as time goes on. This is a good opportunity to exploit here, and I will never understand why a contigent of you simultaneously wanted to intervene yet don't wish to use our new position of power for anything.

Like, if you are going to claim power and then immediately give it up, what's even the point?
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We joined to slap down another genocidal enslaving madman. Not for expanding our borders.
The Crystal ponies were happy to join, which is why they so easily became a Protectorate.
This go around it was more helping our allies the Abolitionists to make a nation for themselves and abolish slavery.
And there are other factions involved, scattered as they will be after this final push. Save for the Loyalists.

If it turns out they want to be a Protectorate, then fine, but that isn't how I saw our motivation for intervention.
 
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