Verdant Maiden with the Connections centerpiece is basically the Socialite. The Socialite is the natural bane of the Nerd, which is the Azure Magus, and archetypically has no difficulty wrapping the Jock(Scarlet Chevalier) around her fingers as her natural ally. However, Socialites are traditionally weak(at the knees) to the Delinquent/Bad Boy(Violet Rogue), who'd take offers of friendship and do unspeakably terrible things with them.
We Are the Gods of a New World Order [Warhammer 50K ~ Warp God Simulator]
- Thread starter Alectai
- Start date
- Sci-Fi Fantasy
Ylamona
Konlulu~
But what if the ship can transforms into a giant space marines though? *thonks*
CedeTheBees
Probably high right now
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- Somewhere
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- They/Them
I don't remember if this has been mentioned. How do we core another aspect? It'd be fun to make communi- I mean Connection a more fundamental part of us.
- Location
- Between Worlds
Happens after each level. We'll probably get the chance after the chapter.
- Location
- New Brunswick, NJ
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- He/Him/His
At odd-numbered Scale increases, we get a choice: Expansion (add two domains that we have previously passed up on to be Associated Domains), Transcendence (randomly gain a new associated domain via a roll on a table that includes stuff we can't get any other way, but also includes some "meh" stuff and some "normal" stuff), and Elevation (take a current Associated Domain, make it Core). When we hit Scale 3, the winning vote was Expansion because it allowed us to pick up Earth and Sorcery: Earth to enable us to do some serious macroengineering, and Sorcery because it's just super useful in letting our followers do Warp-based bullshit.
I would be fine making Connection a Core Domain if between now and when we hit Scale 5 Alectai confirms that this does not mean that we form a hivemind the way some people were worried about. My guess is that it means that the Heartlink our followers use to coordinate in combat becomes much more common among our worshipers, which is telepathy without minds losing their distinctiveness, and I would be personally fine with that.
Nah, we get a single new Associated Domain at each increase of Scale. Odd ones get the Expansion/Transcendence/Elevation choice in addition to that.
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- Salt Lake City, UT, USA
With at least one other god now contacted, it's also possible the Connection domain could support Pantheon stuff; shared cult growth and low-level mutual Domain access.
CedeTheBees
Probably high right now
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Has this actually been a concern? I kinda just assumed leaning more into Connection would just put a bigger cultural emphasis on empathy and community.
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- New Brunswick, NJ
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- He/Him/His
If you go back to the threadmark Calamity on Burning Wings and read the discussion in the thread after it, you will see a lot of people worried about that exact thing.
A Core Domain means that absolutely every action that the god takes has to uphold that domain in some way; this means, for instance, that actions that would show up with Associated Domain: Connection get that Domain added for free (and the +10 bonus factored in), but actions where Connection isn't a possible Associated Domain get it shoved in anyway, which can cause complications or even critical failures.
It's very mechanically powerful, but you have to be super careful what you Core. Connection and Sorcery are basically the only things that I've seen the thread seriously consider as potential future Core Domains.
CedeTheBees
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Aw man.. we can't nab that til we conquer the system?
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- New Brunswick, NJ
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- He/Him/His
Alectai seems to be structuring the quest such that each successfully-completed Chapter (all Primary Objectives complete) ends with us increasing in Scale. So the Prologue took us from 1->2, Chapter 1 took us from 2->3, and now we're in Chapter 2. Assuming this pattern holds, we will not get the chance to Expand, Transcend, or Elevate our Domains until the end of Chapter 3 and we hit Scale 5.
For those keeping track at home, the Nightbringer is coming during Chapter 3. So, uh, that's gonna be fun.
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Ekzentric Lohner
I miss Wildstar...
On this note, please do not elevate Sorcery. Core Sorcery means that everything we do can crit fail. That's bad.
One of the safest domains to elevate is Earth, IMO - that one just means we'd have to incorporate stone and/or soil into everything we do, much like we incorporate living things into everything due to having a core domain of Life.
CedeTheBees
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I agree 100%. Sorcery is fun in moderation, but I'd rather not blow up the planet, thanks lol
Alternatively, Endurance. If communism- i mean connection- isn't your thing, we could go full anime by having VM give inspiring speeches about facing impossible odds every chapter.
Ekzentric Lohner
I miss Wildstar...
Endurance isn't safe either - it means everything we do is enduring even when it really should be something temporary. So if we have to whip up a storm or something else harmful to stop an enemy, it'll never go away.
Don't choose Core domains based on how useful they are - choose them based on how little they will constrain your actions by being required in everything. That's why Earth is very safe - requiring incorporation of rocks or dirt doesn't constrain actions substantially differently than requiring incorporation of living things does.
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CedeTheBees
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Is it really that literal? I feel like the meanings would be more subtle than that... he says, suddenly remembering we're talking about Verdant Maiden, she who literally stole a world from Emperor Dickbag
Has that "rule" been actively in play with our Life core domain so far?
Kell of Snow
Verified TinTin enjoyer
- Location
- New York
Understatement of the deca-millennium ladies and gentlemen. Big sis Verdant gonna unintentionally lead the other godlings with the power of being a decent person in 40K and the instinctual parental affection that comes with being nurg-nurg derived.
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T-Posing on a Nerd (+5 to upcoming negotiations)
CedeTheBees
Probably high right now
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- Somewhere
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- They/Them
Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
Hahha, yes, yes, good
Certainly, you couldn't take any actions that weren't in line with it. Any other options just never occurred to VM.
Certainly, you couldn't take any actions that weren't in line with it. Any other options just never occurred to VM.
- Location
- Latvia, Riga
If it's possible to get Sun as a domain (and "sun" consists of star, magnetics, plasma, light, nuclear fusion, purification, warmth, heat, laser, "photons" etc.... °–° that's a lot more than I thought) and elevate it, what would that entail?
And Love the pic, wish some of our followers somehow got that, then her reputation would grow, again, and our Chosen would feel uncomfortable, again.
... That.. actually explains why from human/our perspective she seems ditzy: there are only so many ways she can "think"
Say, should we continue expanding our "quantity" (more domains) or should we concentrate on "quality" (elevation/transcendence {ones self explanatory, the other – a guess what other domain can we otherwise couldn't get/risk, like Forgecraft, Finesse, Charisma, Fear, Disease, etc.}) later on?
meianmaru
The Devourer of Fiction
Nice work, cedeelbe. I especially like the halo, that is some good T-posing.
(EDIT: As a reminder, the Transcendence-gacha, the Expansion of getting two previous/current ordinary Domains and the Elevation to a Core Domain will be available the next time at Divine Scale 5. We are at Scale 3 currently.)
Remember, Beyond Limits is our starting boon we chose, and the Transcendence-gacha wouldn't normally be avaiblabe at all. Even if we roll something useless and/or bad, we can just never use it if we want. Unlike with Elevation raising something to a Core Domain, which we would have to use for everything. And again, even Domains that would normally sound harmless can be pretty devastatingly harmful in some situations. You don't want those superstorms we whip up one time to destroy an invading army to last literally forever if we happen to have Core Endurance, right?
Well, the next level up includes "just" one ordinary Domain, for which I'm extremely in favor of getting the Sun Domain, if its available that is. If we get it on that or the next level up in our normal Domains available for choosing, I'm all for rolling the gacha for the chance of those game-breaker Domains, or just even those that would be normally unavailable for us but aren't as game-breaking.
(EDIT: As a reminder, the Transcendence-gacha, the Expansion of getting two previous/current ordinary Domains and the Elevation to a Core Domain will be available the next time at Divine Scale 5. We are at Scale 3 currently.)
Remember, Beyond Limits is our starting boon we chose, and the Transcendence-gacha wouldn't normally be avaiblabe at all. Even if we roll something useless and/or bad, we can just never use it if we want. Unlike with Elevation raising something to a Core Domain, which we would have to use for everything. And again, even Domains that would normally sound harmless can be pretty devastatingly harmful in some situations. You don't want those superstorms we whip up one time to destroy an invading army to last literally forever if we happen to have Core Endurance, right?
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Like, we had to bend over backwards to invent an entirely new strain of warp-origin material just because of our Core Life. We had to invent the whole tech tree out of being unable to interact with non-living technology except by making it living.
Right?
The other part of it is that VM can't science.
Apparently, that's the artifice domain. The vast majority of our stuff up till now has been straight up magic, which also limits how big we can build.
- Location
- United States of America, Michigan
Eh another Core in general makes everything we do possibly crit fail and Alectai already explained that Socery isn't that bad to Core compared to others since it just changes our aesthetic unlike how Weaving would make us constantly changing things to make it 'better'
- Location
- Third planet from the star named Sol
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- He/They