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We Are the Gods of a New World Order [Warhammer 50K ~ Warp God Simulator]

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picklepikkl said:
Takeaways from this encounter on the crossover between numbers and narrative:
  • A delta of 2 over enemy Toughness would have been enough for killshots, at least when you're against Light Armor and have effectiveness against it (Our ranged power was 6, enemy Toughness was 4, I had thought we wanted the Death buff to turn wounds into kills, but it seems we didn't need that).
  • A delta of 1 over enemy Toughness is not likely to killshot, even when effective against Infantry Armor (enemy ranged power was 6, we would have had 5 without our Toughness boost, and it seems we wouldn't have taken deaths if we'd had the regen buff).
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Isn't 6+, which our Rangers have in Ranged, bigger than 6? I don't remember how big, and can't find the exact quote either, but I think Alectai mentioned it either here in the thread or discord.
ShadowAngelBeta said:
This was also a shock and awe operation. In an entrenched fight we might very well need deathbane to scythe through them.
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Not with a stat different in our Ranged to their Thougness being two or more times higher. And this is the game-mechanic stat differerence in how its written on the stat sheet, which is not linear in how effective it is. The stat difference of even two in the sheet is 5x stronger in effect. Which means that we probably want to start using it most of the time if our Ranged equals or is less than the enemy Thoughness, and/or when Regeneration/Reanimation -rules are involved.
 
meianmaru said:
Isn't 6+, which our Rangers have in Ranged, bigger than 6? I don't remember how big, and can't find the exact quote either, but I think Alectai mentioned it either here in the thread or discord.
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Ah, true. Here's the relevant quote:
Alectai said:
A + represents a value that doesn't quite make that threshold but is well over the halfway point to it.
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So we had a 2+ delta of offense to their HP, whereas they had a 1 delta of offense over our HP if we didn't Toughness boost.
 
[X] Plan Good Deeds at Reasonable Prices

While I like "Quality Weaving", I feel we are strapped for time, and doing more things adequately right now is worth more than doing less things better in my opinion.
 
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[X] Plan Good Deeds at Reasonable Prices

Look, I just want to take a look at what's out there before it's all gone and/or currently being aimed at our throat.
 
@Alectair, I once again ask this question:
Somebodynobody10 said:
Hmm this reminds me (and I finally got to finding this quest)...

@Alectai How antagonistic will the new gods be of each other?
I could see a good argument why the new pantheon would work together in a more cohesive way (for one thing, you can't Protect something if there isn't something there to Protect in the first place, so Life spreading also means more Protecting).
But I'm unsure if the followers of one god are also able to offer prayers to another god when the need arises, without it starving the other.
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Omegahugger said:
I mean strictly speaking everything organisms do is within the portfolio of life. You can't really expect the Verdant Maiden to be equally enthused about all of it.
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Well this is a bit more core to the concept of life than most of the other things living organisms do

Also note that despite her embarrassment she's the one who keeps bringing it up in internal narration without any outside prompting


What I'm saying is she's lewd as hell but refuses to admit it
 
I'd vote for Quality Weaving as it makes a good point but...
meianmaru said:
I think we should do this, especially for the Kinetic Actions that we have available, because they will be critical for our future military build-up, which I'm hoping that we can delay for a one turn as we the Governor seems to be turtling up once again. Getting Miracles on them will raise our chances of making our forces much stronger in the long run, if we can afford the wait for optimal or semi-optimal conditions.
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Are you really sure about that? The governor gets a roll every turn and considering this is hard-mode I don't want us to be taken by surprise by him or whatever else is out there.

[X] Plan Good Deeds at Reasonable Prices
[X] Plan Quality Weaving
Edit: Approval Voting.
 
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While I sympathize with 1) scoping out the rest of the planet 2) giant sea monster weapons of war, I feel Good Deeds at Reasonable Prices is significantly flawed: it doesn't take a recruit action and relies instead on passive growth, it doesn't stack bonuses on any of the high DC options, and my biggest issue is that it uses only a Manpower token on the Intrigue mystery box (which gives no bonuses and doesn't have a Hero to mitigate failure). We are rolling against a 50 with a 20 bonus, ??? with no bonus or failure mitigation, 60 with 20 bonus, 50 with 10 bonus, and 70 with 20 bonus. If everything works out then obviously it's great, but I feel it risks becoming a nothingburger of a turn if we roll even slightly below average (the sea monster item is only a 51% shot).
Travler66 said:
Are you really sure about that? The governor gets a roll every turn and considering this is hard-mode I don't want us to be taken by surprise by him or whatever else is out there.
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We know that the governor's rolls gain bonuses and penalties depending on what he does. My guess is that his next roll will be penalized because we casually slapped aside his attempt to crush one of our regions. Also, the update says this:
Alectai said:
It's official, Lambent is pulling into a siege posture, pulling in their neighouring settlements before you can get your foot in the door.
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So @meianmaru's logic checks out to me.
 
[X] Plan Quality Weaving

Aside from the exact distribution of heroes/manpower, this is exactly what I was thinking of doing. And on reflection, this distribution makes more sense overall.
 
[X] Plan Good Deeds at Reasonable Prices


Alectai said:
raining the Troops (Ranger Doctrine): 97 + 10 (Horatio) - 7 (Human Limit) + 30 (Domains:) 130]

[A Miracle! The Maiden saw that they were well equipped for the task, and the Marshal saw that they learned--and they learned well indeed. The First Goldsheaf Bumblebees are an elite formation of irregular warriors, capable of matching some of the best that exist. Trained in the depths of the Crucible Wood, they must defeat a great beast and come back alive to be considered graduates.]

The Huntsmen of the Witch are fearsome foes--scorning the touch of light, they clad themselves in false flesh and don great cowls bearing the marks of primordial beasts to inspire fear in the hearts of good-minded men. While blessedly few in number, their ability to identify weak points in a battle line to strike with witchfire and trickery before fading into the darkness is fearsome--but they are vulnerable to being surrounded by willing volunteers to pin them in place until artillery fire can be called down upon them. As always, deployment of Astartes will sweep this problem away, but are best reserved for greater perils.
-Ordo Malleus Report
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so I love these Ordo Malleus reports they add a good bit of flavor to everything.

and the Huntsmen and Flower Knights go well together, the huntsmen can find and harass enemy units and slow them down for what ever will be the anvil of the cult, while the Flower Knights are the hammer and are great shock troops.

and it looks like Fear is becoming a thing for the special troops.
 
[X] Plan Good Deeds at Reasonable Prices

I just want to know if something is out there before it bites us in the rear at the worst possible moment.
 
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Arcus said:
Well this is a bit more core to the concept of life than most of the other things living organisms do
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Not quite as core as you might think. While sexual procreation is a 1.2 billion year old concept (in real life), there are still many, many lifeforms that rely on asexual procreation.

And not just single-celled lifeforms, even if they make out the vast, vast majority of them. The Canvendish banana, for example, propagates asexually.
 
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    How did one start trying their hands at genetic manipulation of a plant-crop that didn't exist a year ago, when one wasn't sanctioned by the Imperium to do so, didn't have more than the barest theoretical understanding granted by lackluster general education and stolen dataslates, and so the list went on, with the cherry on the top being the equipment sanctioned by the Adeptus Mechanicus outside of their cult being limited to only certain professions and strictly controlled?

    It turns out? That most of those problems weren't that insormountable when you had a direct line to literal divine knowledge on the subject to draw upon.

    Even if the... person? Being? Anyway, even if the one who was on the other end of the line was somewhat...

    "And that is how the babies are made on the cellular level for humans! Just don't try to get me explain the macro-scale biggy-stuff, because yuck! I know it falls under my divine portfolio, but that is not just something you speak about in polite company, you know."

    An airhead. A spooky giant god ghost lady airhead, but still an airhead.

    Layla Current, daughter of the famous Percival Current, sighed. She was once again wondering how she had ended up in this situation with a giant lady, who was invisible to other than her and couple of others, lecturing her about how humans inherited and passed on their biological heritage to the from generation to generation. It was interesting! Enlightening!

    It was just that she was constantly being brought out of her focus by the occasional odd comment or observation made by her new goddess, and the need to adjust their heading on the sea when the said goddess gave her new directions.

    "So", she began hesitantly, unsure how to address the intangible giant staring curiously down at her. "You never really explained what we were looking for." Two giant green eyes blinked owlishly a couple of times, before the blonde goddess slapped her hands together. "Oh! I almost forgot! We are searching for a certain red algae that has a component that can be made into this jelly-like stuff. I know its the same stuff that originated on Terra, from when it still had its oceans that is. Still not exactly sure how those dissappeared, haven't managed to dip my toes into the atmosphere shenanigans." A crimson fan appeared into her hands, which she then snapped closed and started gesturing with.

    "Anyways! We need the jelly stuff for primitive DNA-analysis methods to train people in large enough scale. Just some common stuff you can find easily for things like making those itty-bitty-life-strands visible for the naked human eye, some relatively easy preparations the sample, and you can run it through the jelly along with reference sample, and see what the cut DNA fragments are made out of with a little bit of logic!" A small pause as the fan was transformed into a pipe, from which a deep breath is drawn. "I mean, its horribly slow and inaccurate method. Even the simplest piece of technology that your Imperium has does it better and faster for the normal human DNA."

    "Then why do all this stuff then? I mean, its probably only a couple of hours of my time to find it and mark it for the cargo-ships if what you said was true, but still a couple hours when we are constantly busy." A literally shining smile was directed towards her. "An excellent question! You are a Good Girl too, it was so lucky we found you so soon after visiting your home!" A giant hand gently touched her head. This was not good! She had always been embarrassed about her height, and being done so by a giant woman who, um, exceeded her in other ways not too, it was all too-

    "Oh, thats not good. Does this-" And then the giant woman was gone. Where did she-? "work better?", her voice continued from her left. Layla turned sharply around, but still didn't catch her image. "Oy, over here! On your shoulder!" Layla stopped, and slowly turned her head to look, only to see a miniature-version of her goddess.

    "As I was saying, this method doesn't have much pratical use, but we can use it to train new people in the basics of many theories. It will be a really good and cheap way of vizualizing things, especially as I won't be able to assist my followers directly as easily for a little- Hey! Are you even listening?"

    She was- She was-

    "YOUARESOCUTEI'MGONNATAKEYOUHOMEWITHMEANDTHENWEWILL-!"

    ***

    And so the disciple was enlightened further, and brought home to her people the ways for people to see the truth of flesh with their own mortal eyes. For sometimes, seeing is needed for believing.

    Verdant Apocrypha, Discussions XII
     
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