That does not matter even if true. If you shoot someone because you belive they will die in agony later to nebulous reasons if you don't that makes one no less a murderer
We Are the Gods of a New World Order [Warhammer 50K ~ Warp God Simulator]
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That does not matter even if true. If you shoot someone because you belive they will die in agony later to nebulous reasons if you don't that makes one no less a murderer
Admittedly, I agree on this point. He is just too darn paranoid about the imperium, and ironically not paranoid enough, to likely even seriously consider defecting.....
Edit: From at least my perspective, he had a very slim chance until he called in the Astartes, because, well, that speaks volumes of how desperate he is, and his perception of us and the imperium.
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How to Kill an Angel (Expended)
meianmaru
The Devourer of Fiction
How To Kill An Angel
"Sticky-web-grenade-launchers with fast-metal-corrosion properties? Maybe, could be good against those scary transhuman warriors, maybe slowing them down for a second or two, enough to be actually hit by other weapons, while also wearing down that shiny armor and their weapons a little itty bit. Gum up those high-tech death-dealing machines of theirs down for good! Bone melting acid-hose? Nononono, too short-range to work effectively. Unless maybe the pressure could be generated by... But in that case- Or what if I made...?"
Dana glanced at her goddess out of the corner of her eye, who was currently wearing down a circle at the floor of their war-room. Or would be, if her avatar wasn't just about intanglibe most of the time, that is. Still, her morbid murmuring was getting on her already-tight nerves and disturbing her concentration.
"What are you muttering about?" She demanded from the giant woman who should have had to walk bowed with how relatively low the ceiling was- Nope, not thinking about the impossible perspectives, I have already enough on my plate.
The Maiden stopped and turned towards her, still looking unnaturally nervous when considerng her usual demeanor. "Oh, just that nasty business of making some kind of weapons for the Flower Knights to use against the incoming Angels of Death. I mean, while they are coming to kill you all and banish my presence from here, thus also effectively killing the poor old me, you gotta admire the work ethic that went to making them so unstoppale! To start with, in practice untiring, almost unkillable through the combination of thoughness, reflexes and training, worryingly rapid recovery from injuries that they do suffer, incredible resistance to just about most toxins and poisons, and have an implant that lets them bond to their power armor to a degree that is almost maybe potentially a liiiittlle bit better than what the Belladonnas have for their Knights. All that, and their armor and armaments are just a vessel and tools for extensively trained, throughly implanted transhuman killer instinct tested in countless campaigns, combined with the capability for human reason that has also been extensively sharpened towards killing just about anything! It is really quite amazing!"
The high priestess of a heretical cult blankly stared at the being of Warp who had started her on this road. "Ah. Just needed a reminder what we are facing against. As if I didn't have enough nightmares already with-" "Oh, and they can spit acid and eat your brain to absorb parts of your memories, especially recent ones. Kind of forgot that for a moment."
The blank stare was reaching a new level of existence. Soon, it would see through the present and view with vivid clarity the future where giant men in shining armor were taking off their helmets, reaching for their knives, all while she lay helpless to move-
"So!" A very loud snap of the fan in the hand of the Maiden cut through the worryingly realistic picture about the future her priestess was seeing, at the same time making said priestess jump up a little. "I think the best bet would be the webby-grenade-shooter with a little bit of acid in the mix! Kills anything lightly-enough armored and slows down better armored opponents without needing that much accuracy against a moving target, which means that the Knights can more easily close in for the kill if the opponent isn't obliging to die at range! And it makes fighting those that do close range into the melee willingly easier, hard to hit anyone when you can barely move your arms, appendages or whatever you happen to have for hitting somebody with your vital-fluid--separating-mechanism! And as a bonus, if you have some fancy-pancy gear that doesn't work while gooped up without exploding, well though luck!"
Suddenly the Maiden was sitting next to her, eyes meeting between hers and a small but warm smile gracing the goddess's lips. "I would like to say don't worry, but against opponents like this that would be quite foolish, now wouldn't it? Instead, just focus on the present to prevent that picture from coming reality, and do your best. Nobody, certainly not me, is asking more from you. We have beat back the threats to your people before, and we can do so again if everybody works together."
Dana slowly nodded, life returning back to her motions as she did so. "Yes, you are probably right about that. In that case, let me return to looking over these plans on how to ensure that we have enough harvest that we can endure this particlular invasion." As she turned away from the Maiden, and back to the table to look at the latest reports, she heard one quiet, fading sentence at the edge of her perception.
"I am so proud of you Dana, my first, and always will be. For the rest of the eternity."
"Sticky-web-grenade-launchers with fast-metal-corrosion properties? Maybe, could be good against those scary transhuman warriors, maybe slowing them down for a second or two, enough to be actually hit by other weapons, while also wearing down that shiny armor and their weapons a little itty bit. Gum up those high-tech death-dealing machines of theirs down for good! Bone melting acid-hose? Nononono, too short-range to work effectively. Unless maybe the pressure could be generated by... But in that case- Or what if I made...?"
Dana glanced at her goddess out of the corner of her eye, who was currently wearing down a circle at the floor of their war-room. Or would be, if her avatar wasn't just about intanglibe most of the time, that is. Still, her morbid murmuring was getting on her already-tight nerves and disturbing her concentration.
"What are you muttering about?" She demanded from the giant woman who should have had to walk bowed with how relatively low the ceiling was- Nope, not thinking about the impossible perspectives, I have already enough on my plate.
The Maiden stopped and turned towards her, still looking unnaturally nervous when considerng her usual demeanor. "Oh, just that nasty business of making some kind of weapons for the Flower Knights to use against the incoming Angels of Death. I mean, while they are coming to kill you all and banish my presence from here, thus also effectively killing the poor old me, you gotta admire the work ethic that went to making them so unstoppale! To start with, in practice untiring, almost unkillable through the combination of thoughness, reflexes and training, worryingly rapid recovery from injuries that they do suffer, incredible resistance to just about most toxins and poisons, and have an implant that lets them bond to their power armor to a degree that is almost maybe potentially a liiiittlle bit better than what the Belladonnas have for their Knights. All that, and their armor and armaments are just a vessel and tools for extensively trained, throughly implanted transhuman killer instinct tested in countless campaigns, combined with the capability for human reason that has also been extensively sharpened towards killing just about anything! It is really quite amazing!"
The high priestess of a heretical cult blankly stared at the being of Warp who had started her on this road. "Ah. Just needed a reminder what we are facing against. As if I didn't have enough nightmares already with-" "Oh, and they can spit acid and eat your brain to absorb parts of your memories, especially recent ones. Kind of forgot that for a moment."
The blank stare was reaching a new level of existence. Soon, it would see through the present and view with vivid clarity the future where giant men in shining armor were taking off their helmets, reaching for their knives, all while she lay helpless to move-
"So!" A very loud snap of the fan in the hand of the Maiden cut through the worryingly realistic picture about the future her priestess was seeing, at the same time making said priestess jump up a little. "I think the best bet would be the webby-grenade-shooter with a little bit of acid in the mix! Kills anything lightly-enough armored and slows down better armored opponents without needing that much accuracy against a moving target, which means that the Knights can more easily close in for the kill if the opponent isn't obliging to die at range! And it makes fighting those that do close range into the melee willingly easier, hard to hit anyone when you can barely move your arms, appendages or whatever you happen to have for hitting somebody with your vital-fluid--separating-mechanism! And as a bonus, if you have some fancy-pancy gear that doesn't work while gooped up without exploding, well though luck!"
Suddenly the Maiden was sitting next to her, eyes meeting between hers and a small but warm smile gracing the goddess's lips. "I would like to say don't worry, but against opponents like this that would be quite foolish, now wouldn't it? Instead, just focus on the present to prevent that picture from coming reality, and do your best. Nobody, certainly not me, is asking more from you. We have beat back the threats to your people before, and we can do so again if everybody works together."
Dana slowly nodded, life returning back to her motions as she did so. "Yes, you are probably right about that. In that case, let me return to looking over these plans on how to ensure that we have enough harvest that we can endure this particlular invasion." As she turned away from the Maiden, and back to the table to look at the latest reports, she heard one quiet, fading sentence at the edge of her perception.
"I am so proud of you Dana, my first, and always will be. For the rest of the eternity."
If we capture the spires, we can also try to pull a Istvaan and ambush the space marines when try land in the spires.
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For someone unfamiliar with the setting: what are the Spires and why are they so important? Originally I just assumed it was a flowery word for, like, a big tower where the colony's seat of government is, but it sounds like there's more to it than that.
Sinsystems
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Say correct me if i'm wrong but Space Marines can't swim in their armor right? Now I know they are unlikely to drown, pretty sure their power armor is at least good for a day or so, but they should at least run into issues if they end up sinking to the bottom of the ocean.
Baron Ouroboros
Emerald Leaves and Crimson Petals
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I wonder if the traitor Legions are still around? They'd still be enemies of the Imperium if they survived Chaos' demise.
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Well we know there are daemon princes around, some of those might be traitor primarchs.
You know if we recreate Chaos were making it more good then bad just more Chaoic Good way
Baron Ouroboros
Emerald Leaves and Crimson Petals
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If things really go out of hand and we must face the whole Imperium, I wouldn't mind them as military allies. We should outreach to all factions, from Imperial to Aeldari, and even to Tau.
It's pretty much just a tower in this case, the center of the primary administration and the seat of its elite.
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I think they can? I'm fairly sure a space wolf character got pulled into a river by a sea monster at some point and he was fine.
I would object. In fact I would say it would be better to embrace oblivion than to ally with someone with as much blod on their hands as the Traitor Primarchs even assuming we could trust their sanity with for most of them is a dicey proposition.
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It's just Fulgrim with more hands though.
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While the Tau are at best hopeless naive at worst Slavers who use pheromones to enslave races. The traitor Primarchs are not something to trust since the best of them was Magnus and Horus himself said all the useful primarchs were loyal and the freaks and incompetents joined him (or if they were competent they become useless like Fulgrim).
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That kind of depends on your perspective. At minimum Lorgar was a brilliant diplomat, the only problem was his need to worship something divine(, and the fact he is not a brilliant commander or fighter).......
Lorgar was a weak willed fool. It's easy to be a competent 'diplomat' when you hand out memetic corruption that twists others to your side. Also of all the Traitors he is the most likely to have went out with the Pantheon. His whole identity was tied to worshiping them.
??If I remember correctly, he was charismatic before the memetic hazard thing was involved.....
Either that, or that is a popular fan interpretation... 🤷♂️
All the primarchs were inhumanly charismatic compared to regular humans, it says something that all of them save Angron united their home worlds by the time the Emperor found them. I don't recall Lorgar showing diplomatic skill above that level that did not lean on Chaos.
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Wait did I put Magnus I meant Perturbo he seemed to be the only one trying to win the siege of Terra, Magnus was looking for his missing shard, Angron was being useless (no change their, should of been killed when found if the emperor followed his own rules since he did kill the thunder warriors who were basically better Angrons) Horus was praying, Fulgrim decided to do Slaanesh things and Mortirian did nothing that I recall apart unless his fight with the khan happened at the siege.
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I be real, Magnus is one of my favorites, as are the Thousand Sons and I always felt like they got a raw deal even when they was still loyal and was forced to turn traitor when the damned Space Wolves ruined everything, and it only got worst for them all afterward.
If Magnus is still around, I wound't mind. If we could be allies to him, and help him, even better. If we had to fight them...a shame and a pity.
If Magnus is still around, I wound't mind. If we could be allies to him, and help him, even better. If we had to fight them...a shame and a pity.
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That was the Horus, he was the one who convinced Leman that the emperor changed his mind but its not like Magnus was innocent either his adopted father warned him of the dangers of the warp yet made a deal with him anyway, after breaking the webway he didn't explain to the emperor about Horus and he didn't reach out to Leman to explain and then attacked him. Hell Leman thinks that Magnus was listening to him and asked him to surrender
Alectai
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If the bus drops below 80 miles per hour it explodes.
In other words, Locking up
[X] Plan The Plate-Spinning Act of DOOM!
-[X] Murmurs of Dissent (DC 60)
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--[X] Domains: Connection
-[X] Planting the Seed (DC 60)
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-[X] Split Your Lungs With Blood and Thunder! (DC 70)
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-[X] Building on what works (DC 75)
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Is the winner.
In other words, Locking up
[X] Plan The Plate-Spinning Act of DOOM!
-[X] Murmurs of Dissent (DC 60)
--[X] Heroic Unit: Dana (1 Use Left)
--[X] Domains: Connection
-[X] Planting the Seed (DC 60)
--[X] Heroic Unit: Dana (0 Uses Left)
--[X] Manpower Token (2 Uses Left)
-[X] Split Your Lungs With Blood and Thunder! (DC 70)
--[X] Heroic Unit: Layla (0 Uses Left)
--[X] Manpower Token (1 Use Left)
--[X] Domains: Weaving, Harvest
-[X] Building on what works (DC 75)
--[X] Heroic Unit: Horatio (0 Uses Left)
--[X] Manpower Token (0 Uses Left)
--[X] Domains: Weaving, Death
Is the winner.