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We Are the Gods of a New World Order [Warhammer 50K ~ Warp God Simulator]

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Alectai said:
Certainly, you couldn't take any actions that weren't in line with it. Any other options just never occurred to VM.
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Interesting. I might have to reread some of the story so far to see how this played out; of course a lot of our actions are life aligned but I didn't think ALL of them were.

And I guess the +10 just doesn't apply for the first core domain?
 
Renars said:
If it's possible to get Sun as a domain (and "sun" consists of star, magnetics, plasma, light, nuclear fusion, purification, warmth, heat, laser, "photons" etc.... °–° that's a lot more than I thought) and elevate it, what would that entail?
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So all those agent infiltration actions that could benefit from Connection? They all come with MANDATORY GLORIOUS INCANDESCENCE now.

NotteBoy97 said:
Eh another Core in general makes everything we do possibly crit fail and Alectai already explained that Socery isn't that bad to Core compared to others since it just changes our aesthetic unlike how Weaving would make us constantly changing things to make it 'better'
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No, Core Domains other than Sorcery only introduce crit fails to actions they're incompatible with (like agent infiltration with Core Sun as above). Core Sorcery introduces crit fails to everything.
 
I'm not a fan of elevating any new domains honestly. The mechanical effects are nice, but I don't think they're worth a massive personality shift. Anything we add as a core domain will become as much a part of VM's identity as life currently is. As we level up we'll have plenty of different ways to up our AP, going for "free" bonus points that involve VM radically shifting behaviors and doing at least one or two stupid things a turn seems unnecessary.
 
BronzeTongue said:
I'm not a fan of elevating any new domains honestly. The mechanical effects are nice, but I don't think they're worth a massive personality shift. Anything we add as a core domain will become as much a part of VM's identity as life currently is. As we level up we'll have plenty of different ways to up our AP, going for "free" bonus points that involve VM radically shifting behaviors and doing at least one or two stupid things a turn seems unnecessary.
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Once again, no option given to us is a trap. I feel Elevation will not meaningfully change us as much as you seem to fear. Besides which, we won't know how it effects VM's Personality until we do it. Supposing it will only change us for the worse as you appear to believe, is fearmongering if intentional, and baseless paranoia if not.

The GM isn't trying to make this Unfun for anyone. That would be Unfun.
 
cedeelbe said:
That is kinda one of the main reasons I wanna elevate Connection. Go full in on the loving mom vibes.
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If you want that then vote for mire actions doting on people and things related to that part of VM's personality. Adding a core domain is likely to have a much broader scope than just the change you'd like to see happen. She'd want everything to be connected for its own sake in all contexts, the same way she wants to encourage life in all contexts now. You might get your loving mom vibes, but you could also get stalker!VM when people don't like the depth of connection she wants to introduce, or her constantly being in everyone's business, or any one of a hundred different things. You only seem to want one part of the changes that would happen, so the best way to get what you want without side effects is regular character growth, not a 50% replacement soul graft.
 
BronzeTongue said:
If you want that then vote for mire actions doting on people and things related to that part of VM's personality. Adding a core domain is likely to have a much broader scope than just the change you'd like to see happen. She'd want everything to be connected for its own sake in all contexts, the same way she wants to encourage life in all contexts now. You might get your loving mom vibes, but you could also get stalker!VM when people don't like the depth of connection she wants to introduce, or her constantly being in everyone's business, or any one of a hundred different things. You only seem to want one part of the changes that would happen, so the best way to get what you want without side effects is regular character growth, not a 50% replacement soul graft.
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Like, where are you getting your utter certainty from?

Did you steal it from a mediocre white man?
 
cedeelbe said:
In all fairness, I honestly doubt it'd go that far. Our core is Life, but you don't see VM going around trying to have babies with everyone.
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Of course not, she's a maiden.

She does, however, try to stick living things into everything. That's why Dana had to mitigate the merely-partial success when we made the first Flower Knight - it didn't occur to VM that people might be a bit disturbed by the idea of having living roots burrowing into them.
 
cedeelbe said:
In all fairness, I honestly doubt it'd go that far. Our core is Life, but you don't see VM going around trying to have babies with everyone.
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No, but she does encourage life wherever she goes, includes it in everything she does, and thoughtlessly applies things related to it to her followers. Her variation on the life theme doesn't lean that way.

My point is that you seem to be expecting her interpretation of a new core domain to be structured in a way that only causes the major change you want with no other significant side effects. As one of two core domains I think it will have considerable influence on everything she thinks and believes going forward.

It won't be VM+, it'll be a new god who's half the VM we know and half someone else.
 
While the vast majority of our actions are strongly life-related, I do want to bring up the preaching actions and the infiltration actions. Both of them are only tangentially related to life in that they're using living people to do them, and they advance our cult which in turn promotes life.

That's why I think Elevation:Connection isn't as dangerous as some others seem to think. It'd probably mean an always-available heart-link, but it wouldn't be some hivemind horror show. Elevation:Sorcery is the least restrictive, but is the worst mechanically (critfail available on all actions) and I think a goddess of Life and Connections is far more thematically coherent than one of Life and Sorcery.

Life and Earth is coherent, but I don't like giving up the possibilities of being fast and nimble, whereas connection just gives up people being lone wolves and operating solo. Considering all of our solo operatives are probably using a symbiote suit that's connected to them already...
 
Slight change of topic, but I can't help but wonder how coring both Life and Death would affect us...
 
Honestly I think we should focus more on snagging as many domains as possible to broaden our 'toolbox' instead of elevating any particular one. Not only would it give us more options but we could use domains better suited for given tasks.
 
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jwolfe_beta said:
Honestly I think we should focus more on snagging as many domains as possible to broaden our 'toolbox' instead of elevating any particular one. Not only would it give us more options but we could use domains better suited for given tasks.
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We at least should be extremely careful about which domain we elevate to core, because although a powerful boon, forcing it into every action and possibly disregarding alternative approaches could limit us severely.
 
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