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I think we would have a good chance with Branullhune and the belt.

but I would not want to win with those on mathy.
Because we would have to deal with the question 'did Mathdile Weber win, or did Kragg the Grim win' floating over us the whole term.

and without those two tools we are arguably the weakest LM in a straight fight right now.

I would not want to try until we make the the full shadow sword spell so we can us are full sword skills without Branulhune.
 
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Dragomas' glare is more "Ok, the gloves are off for you," than "Shame on you"

I'm not so sure about that. Dragomas's glare is described as "such venom that he [the Gold Wizard] quails". It looks to me like more than just anger or getting serious. It seems like a combination of those and quite a lot of revulsion. The Gold Wizard was so intent on taking the position he immediately jumped to murder, using a very potent spell that could go wrong horribly easily. No other participant showed such a combination of ambition, overconfidence and callousness.

Of course, the Gold Wizard might have simply believed Dragomas was so good there was no way anything else would stand a chance, or that the Patriarch could counter or endure the spell. Which he could. However, Dragomas also had no way of knowing what the challenger was thinking, so he could only see the surface, and that looked really poorly.
 
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I think we would have a good chance with Branullhune and the belt.

but I would not want to win with those on mathy.
Because we would have to deal with the question 'did Mathdile Weber win, or did Kragg the Grim win' floating over us the whole term.

mans without those two tools we are argueable the weakest LM in astraight fight right now.

I would not want to try until we make the the full shadow sword spell so we can us are full sword skills without Branulhune.

Did Sigmar beat Nagash? Or did Smednir, creator of Ghal Maraz kill Nagash?
 
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The oft-indistinguishable guilds and gangs of the waterfronts have swelled with people no longer willing to be subjugated, with the Hooks and the Fish spilling into outright war against each other, turning parts of the docklands into a battlefield.
If anyone's curious, the Hooks and the Fish are dockworker gangs that have been active in Altdorf since the Vampire Wars.

The official Altdorf guild for dockworkers is the Stevedores Guild (known colloquially as the Wharf Rats) but to join an official guild you need to have your name on the Civic List of Altdorf, which is basically a citizenship thing- and it's difficult to get on it. The Hooks and the Fish don't have any requirements for joining apart from the ability to work, with the only issue being that, well, you're joining a gang.

The nicer docks are serviced by the Stevedores Guild, and all the not-so-nice ones have the gangs working cargo on them.
 
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The biggest reason remains that we don't actually want the job, nor will we for the foreseeable future.

Like, we already have three jobs, people.

And honestly the waystone project is both more important (if successful) and something literally only Mathilde is in a position to do.
I want the job at some point, and I bet that im not the only one.

People at have gone 'no way no how' to the SP job are Vocal, but that doesn't prove a majority.
 
What was interesting to note here, is that all of the duels were over extremely quickly. I think the most anyone managed to pull off was 2 spells. Something to consider in terms of tactics if we ever want to take a crack at this.
Best bet would probably be to snap-cast a teleport to reach melee range then materialise her cannon-sword an inch from their nose. Bigger spells take longer to cast, or at least to gather the mana for, and if we get close while our opponent remains human we have won.

Subsequent duels would be a matter of trying the above while also legging it for the staff. Once staff is in hand just dispel while walking forwards.
 
Keep in mind our sword may be two centuries older than the Staff of Volans, but the one who made it was already a living legend when Volans was a sparkle in his father's eye. I think the sword has it. That said if you are in sword range of a wizard holding a staff, it is probably better to aim the edged gormil at the wizard not the staff.
 
Taal on a pogo stick, BoneyM. You wrote that in three hours?

The mind, it boggles. Yet more evidence that the limiting factor on this quest is the sheer size of its voter base.

We'd have gotten completely wrecked. The only way I can think of for Mathilde to possibly win would be if she managed to get off a teleport and grab the Staff of Volans instantly, and even then it'd be a contest.

To be fair, the fact that Smoke and Mirrors can be woven into other spells makes that move a pretty strong opening gambit.

In other news, I'm quite happy Dragomas is still Supreme Patriarch. Powerful, seems to be a pretty decent chap, and a competent administrator. This should let us research waystones without needing to worry about the colleges burning down in the meantime.
 
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While the Waystone project succeeding would be a major achievement, I feel like it would naturally make her more of a shoo-in for the more academic positions in the grey order rather than anything else, since the other positions rely more on being able to wave magic around on a battlefield. It would make her the natural successor to the position of Dean, Senior Fellow, Editor-In-Chief, Archivist, or Librarian.
Yep, that's my thinking as well. My ideal path would be titled position(one of the ones you mentioned) > College Matriarch(maybe skippable?) > Supreme Matriarch. Again, ideally, we'd end up in place just in time to advise Mandred. That'd be nice, though very unlikely for it to line up so neatly.
I'd say Nagarythe-trip first, or perhaps if we can get something useful Ulgu-wise from the Eonir. Something Dragomas hasn't seen before.
I did mention after a lot of grinding. Nagarythe is one of those, plus I just really want to go on the elfcation, even wrote an omake about it.
I want the job at some point, and I bet that im not the only one.

People at have gone 'no way no how' to the SP job are Vocal, but that doesn't prove a majority.
That's me right there!

Definitely my feeling on the subject, and like I said, if it was narratively satisfying just like the recent pivot to take Eike as apprentice I can see even some of the current naysayers going for it.
 
"Do you think you could take on Dragomas?"

"What?" You consider that for all of two seconds. "No. Absolutely not. He went off the edge of the map to the 'here be dragons' and came back with the ability to turn into one. And it's even stronger than the ones the other Ambers can turn into."

"That's a shame. He's a surprisingly difficult nut to crack."
You know, thinking on it, I wonder if any of the Lord Magisters decided to challenge Dragomas after Heidi convinced them to give it a go?
 
Two questions; what would Mathilde gain from the position, and what would the position gain from Mathilde?

Cause to my mind the answer to both is 'basically nothing'.
Learning advisor to the Emperor, who also happens to be the godmother of his son and heir and a confidante of his wife.

This is the exact opposite of "basically nothing" on both accounts.
 
Because we would have to deal with the question 'did Mathdile Weber win, or did Kragg the Grim win' floating over us the whole term.
Honestly it'd be hilarious if we got Kragg to challenge. We could have even sold it as 'make sure this zhufokri wazzocks don't get too self-assured'. Giving beardlings a whalloping is practically a duty of Longbeards.
 
I mean in comparison to the other lores and for dueling. Vortexes and line spells are great, but suffer from the problems of not being suited to a duel. Debuffs are good for setting up the killing blow, but do nothing to counter the enemy attacking you, as the Jade with Throne of Vines demonstrated. Ulgu is great for supporting armies, but not so much for dealing direct damage.
A line or vortex can be drawn through a single target. It's overkill for a single opponent, but that doesn't mean it's worthless.
Most battlemagic targets multiple enemies. That's why it's battlemagic. Single-target battlemagic is very rare.
Also, Throne of Vines is not a debuff.

...there are Runes that make blades and stuff seek out the enemy right? Could Kragg make a discus or shield that seeks out spells to seize and burn out of the caster's mind?
Is it possible? Probably. Could Kragg do it? Likely not. He is the greatest of Runelords but much has been lost, leaving only a patchwork behind. There are many restrictions on what runes can go on what kind of item, and a belt is very different from a discus.

Hmm... what would the reaction be to just shooting Dragomas the second the duel starts?
Angry Dragon.
I seriously doubt no one has considered 'what if I just used a mundane weapon?'

In the table top, Dwellers below is a Strength Save or Die spell. No Saves allowed. So yeah it's an instadeath spell, which is balanced out by it being the spell with possibly the highest casting value in the game, hardest spell you could cast.
Sure, but... 'On a failed Strength Roll the model is removed as a casualty' isn't quite the same as 'definitively dead', in the way that throwing Death Magic is, or passing through a Wormhole Blender.
Also, Strength Roll, probably not the best in this specific case.

The chamber is made of obsidian (a magical insulator), and the staff creates an equal amount of both winds.
Yeah, but I think it was 'if fighting begins' more in Night of a Thousand Arcane Duels 2 Electric Boogaloo sense.

[Rune of Superior Skill: any foe struck by this sword has all magical weapons, armour, items, and positive magical effects cease working for several minutes. Though an original rune, the effect is very similar to Thorek Ironbrow's prototype rune. Knowing Kragg, this is almost certainly deliberate.]
Huh. That could maybe dispel the transformation. Maybe.

Keep in mind our sword may be two centuries older than the Staff of Volans, but the one who made it was already a living legend when Volans was a sparkle in his father's eye. I think the sword has it. That said if you are in sword range of a wizard holding a staff, it is probably better to aim the edged gormil at the wizard not the staff.
Volans was not the only key person involved in the making of the Staff of Volans.
Consider that it is capable of channeling and harnessing all eight winds of magic, simultaneously.

Dragomas' glare is more "Ok, the gloves are off for you," than "Shame on you"
It's also possible the Gold Wizard wasn't trying to cast Final Transmutation but something else, possibly something very ill-advised, e.g. 'I can use the concentrated winds here to cast a Storm Spell!' Or just flubbing whatever they were attempting.
Whatever the case, it was something that was generally disapproved of.

Leaving Dragomas unopposed for any amount of time seems ill advised. Spells that can counter a dragon aren't easy enough to cast before he gets to you (on top of being highly lethal), so the best course of action is to occupy his attention so he can't transform.
Sure, but you have a better chance of pulling off a spell that can counter a dragon if you have the staff, and if you use something like Smoke and Mirrors, Speed of Light, etc, you could get to the staff very quickly.
 
I think Mathilde would make for a great Supreme Matriarch. She's been an advisor, a leader in times of war and peace, and a problem solver for matters mundane and magical. She also has good advantages going for her with Branalhune and the Coin. The only things stopping her is her inexperience as a magical duelist. Thankfully that's something that can be polished with experience and time. Solving that, I could see her winning the duels. While the next one is too early, the one after that could have her in best shape to succeed.
 
Quite a thing to see.

However I have no interest in pursuing the Supreme Patriarchal job.

Another thing I want to note is that most seem to assume that if Mathilde were to take the challenge that she would even be allowed to bring her equipment with her into the chamber. I don't think it's at all likely, atleast not her weapons.

No equipment was mentioned being used by any participants save the Staff of Volans. It is after all a duel for the position of top mage. The weapons should be whatever you can craft with your own magic during the duel. Only in the chamber after it starts in case anyone tries to irritatingly rules lawyer that last statement. No guns, just so we are clear.

And any dhar usage is almost certain death in front of all the college mages. Remember, the witch hunters are watching, and as was emphasized at the start, the Battlemages are also watching.
 
"When did you get here?" Starke asks of her.

"Yesterday," she replies with a sniff.
I laughed at this.

"Dragomas stands for the Amber Brotherhood."

There's another slam and a flash of pure-white light, and a voice that echoes unnaturally rises. "Alric stands for the Order of Light."

A third slam, a golden light. "Feldmann stands for the Golden Order."

Green. "Paranoth stands for the Order of Life."

Blue. "Maria Stossel stands for the Celestial College."

Grey, from right beside you. "Algard stands for the Grey Order."

Purple. "Elspeth von Draken stands for the Amethyst Order."

Red. "Norbert Reicthard stands for the Bright Order."
There is no protocol for which name used I am guessing because Jade order uses order of life while others use colors. Also Light Order reverses it and uses Order of Light.
 
Learning advisor to the Emperor, who also happens to be the godmother of his son and heir and a confidante of his wife.

This is the exact opposite of "basically nothing" on both accounts.
Also having the opportunity to work with all eight colleges of magic? Smells like windherder opportunities to me. Plus the potential for access to all those resources!
 
Another thing I want to note is that most seem to assume that if Mathilde were to take the challenge that she would even be allowed to bring her equipment with her into the chamber. I don't think it's at all likely, atleast not her weapons.
Then we just pull a Harry Potter GoF 1st Task and use magic to get our equipment. And by magic, I mean Wolf.
 
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