Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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Selecting safe-ish actions to overwork on seems more like using the system right rather than abusing it, no? It's safer to fall asleep in the middle of reading a book rather than in a middle of run for your life from numerous necromantic gribbles.
Remember each turn of the Purge is 1/3 of a normal turn. We had spent 3/6 of our Purge on Work already. We can afford a turn or two focusing on our graduation if theres not much to do yet.
Its just that the turn after critting a learning roll is really good for improving it!
That's a possibility as well. If its popular I could go with that
Her box is dripping gallons as it is. She'd never live it down.
It absolutely could.
Overwork is intended for when we absolutely need to get something done and not enough actions in a turn to do critical stuff.
It basically means Mathilde is going sleep deprived for months to fit enough into her schedule. There'd be errors in judgement, which the nearest to offsetting it is Ranald's blessing apparently.
We've asked all this before. It's intended for emergency action cram, not squeezing more efficiency out of the day. She could drop down to 5 hours sleep a day, but its not sustainable
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- Location
- Denmark
[X] Plan Intellectual Arts
Overwork is cramming more hours into the day by skipping things like 'food' and 'sleep'. If you need to do it, then you pick the things that are the least intensive for the 'extra' things so they don't blow up in your face as hard if you drop the ball, but it doesn't mean that routinely skipping sleep in order to study is One Weird Trick That Will Make You Super Smart (Magisters Hate It!). It might work fine once or twice but when the dice turn against you, and statistically they will, you'll end up accumulating negatraits that take more time and effort to clear up than you gained in the first place.
1. In general, yes.
2. The only 'reliable' way to increase magic is to learn all the spells of a certain tier, and you've already got the low-hanging fruit from that. Apart from that, it is only traits and possibly from getting crits when working on magic-intensive tasks.
1. In general, yes.
2. The only 'reliable' way to increase magic is to learn all the spells of a certain tier, and you've already got the low-hanging fruit from that. Apart from that, it is only traits and possibly from getting crits when working on magic-intensive tasks.
[X] Plan Intellectual Arts
good plan though I really wish we could set up the enchantment lab and saltpeter production already, another time I suppose.
good plan though I really wish we could set up the enchantment lab and saltpeter production already, another time I suppose.
- Location
- Brazil
[X] Plan Intellectual Arts
- Location
- Norway
If anything, I think "might not like" is an understatement. I'm convinced Van Hal quite definitely wouldn't like that. Bold mine, quoting from last time we wheedled more budget out of the boss:
Trying to get another 120 after that by moving it out of our budget and onto the rest of Stirland's during the Purge sounds like exactly what he told us not to do. Maybe once the Purge isn't being a drain on Stirland's resources any more.
There's only five spells in the next tier though! They require Magic 2 to learn and we have a solid Magic 4, so once regular turns resume, we could do something like this:
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] Plan Reach For The Fruit-Watch action
-Network action
-Study Bewilder
-Study Doppelganger
-Study Eye of the Beholder
-Study Mutable Visage
-Study Shadowcloak
-Overwork: Restudy a spell we failed to learn the first time around (if any), Ranald's Blessing
I don't actually know the roll difficulty here, so I'm going to wildly guess and make up numbers that it's maybe 50 to backtrack to simpler spells after Burning Shadows, and optimistically assume we will get Learning raised from the currently leading plan, in which case this setup gives us a
*squints at polynomials*
about 40% chance of learning all the remaining Simple spells, 30% chance of learning four of them, 30% chance of failing two or more and then possibly getting another Wisdom's Asp after us for the sheer amount of concentrated magic and failure packed into that turn. Alternatively, it might instead be a Fat Man, Abandoned Wretch or Whispering Darkness.
...I think I see what you mean about 'reliable' now.
- Location
- Brazil
Hm, so we can "reliably" become a Battle Wizard if we learn all the shadow spells. We need a 7, we have a 4 and up to +3 if we master all three tiers.
Thinking on it, it's kind of very neat. Magic 6 being "top magister" makes sense as that's what someone who learned all the spells, but didn't swing a special trait, would get.
Thinking on it, it's kind of very neat. Magic 6 being "top magister" makes sense as that's what someone who learned all the spells, but didn't swing a special trait, would get.
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- Location
- Brazil
[X] Plan Intellectual Arts
[x] PLAN 'Orrible Gunk
-[x] Expand your information network into another province (choose one)
--[x] Talabecland
-[x] Try to soothe those in the watch upset by recent changes.
-[x] In Wissenland, there are a number of techniques in use to derive saltpeter from urine. It would take a great deal more effort than selling to tanneries, but saltpeter could be exported to Nuln for fantastic profit, or used to start gunpowder production in Stirland.
-[x] Publish Or Perish, Part 2: With a mindful of trigonometry, it's time to formally record the process for creating 'Bound Spells'. And, optionally, pick a catchier name for it than that. (Optional: Write in name) (NEW)
-[x] Qhaysh Skunkworks: It would take careful study to unlock the secrets of the liquid. It would take considerably less time to find out if it can be made to burn, or explode, or do something militarily useful.
--[x] Ranald's Blessing
Expanding the network because there's an Elector's meet coming up, Picked Talabecland because it a populous hub so lots of news will pass through, it's our neighbour and likely to be our rival as our own trade hub plans mature. 0 action
Soothing the Watch is necessary housekeeping and I'd rather be conciliatory than bust heads and end up with resentful outsiders with insider knowledge. 0 action
Saltpeter is power and money. 1 action
Publishing improves our college standing and doing the write up will cement our own grasp of the theory
Quaysh Skunkworks because there must be a way to make that stuff explode and it will amuse Ranald watching us try.
-[x] Expand your information network into another province (choose one)
--[x] Talabecland
-[x] Try to soothe those in the watch upset by recent changes.
-[x] In Wissenland, there are a number of techniques in use to derive saltpeter from urine. It would take a great deal more effort than selling to tanneries, but saltpeter could be exported to Nuln for fantastic profit, or used to start gunpowder production in Stirland.
-[x] Publish Or Perish, Part 2: With a mindful of trigonometry, it's time to formally record the process for creating 'Bound Spells'. And, optionally, pick a catchier name for it than that. (Optional: Write in name) (NEW)
-[x] Qhaysh Skunkworks: It would take careful study to unlock the secrets of the liquid. It would take considerably less time to find out if it can be made to burn, or explode, or do something militarily useful.
--[x] Ranald's Blessing
Expanding the network because there's an Elector's meet coming up, Picked Talabecland because it a populous hub so lots of news will pass through, it's our neighbour and likely to be our rival as our own trade hub plans mature. 0 action
Soothing the Watch is necessary housekeeping and I'd rather be conciliatory than bust heads and end up with resentful outsiders with insider knowledge. 0 action
Saltpeter is power and money. 1 action
Publishing improves our college standing and doing the write up will cement our own grasp of the theory
Quaysh Skunkworks because there must be a way to make that stuff explode and it will amuse Ranald watching us try.
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Ooo, that'd be good to know. And due to that Magic boosting traits accelerate everything because you learn it even faster
At present, others have convinced me that it'd:
1) Tick off Gustav for bloating his budget for something WE wanted and he RELUCTANTLY agreed to(and probably still doesn't see the need for). Not mitigated at all.
2) Tick off Van Hal for swelling the Stirland expenses during a time when hes paying the exorbitant costs of a year long full mobilization AND paying for a dragon. Offset by how well the Gong Farmers are turning out.
3) Be in competition with an action that does what Van Hal asked us to do. Namely getting the network to pay for itself.
So not needed at present. Given how well the rumor mill sales turned out, I think we've wound up getting paid by a whole bunch of lesser nobles to get THEIR own rumor mills started up. However, interestingly, rumor mill sales should also mean that expanding the network across Stirland means getting even more money.
Once we've gotten something of value to Gustav or Van Hal out of the Attaches, I think we can revisit that idea, but not till then.
Though I'd also note that once we have the Watch situation tidied up, expanding the shit processing could probably pay for the whole intel network
That's a hilariously bad idea. Never overwork magic research!
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- Location
- Brazil
Then do the gunpowder producing action, sounds far more reliable, efficient and lucrative.
[X] Plan Intellectual Art
Yes, but the alternative is to just ignore the early lead on dissent in the Watch.
Such things are best dealt with before they nucleate.
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C'mon guys we have an endless supply of pure magic given to us by a miracle why are we chasing shadows of chances of getting anything out of something totally demolished. At least check if it explodes or something.
- Location
- USA
Damn. I binged this quest last night (admittedly just the main threadmarks) and I get an update in the morning.
And then I saw this quest had only started up in January!
Is our QM a master of sleep typing, or just that awesome?
Seeing as I'm new to the thread, any particular quirks I should know of? I'd perfer to jumpstart my immersion into this thread's culture and not make any grievous faux paws
And then I saw this quest had only started up in January!
Is our QM a master of sleep typing, or just that awesome?
Seeing as I'm new to the thread, any particular quirks I should know of? I'd perfer to jumpstart my immersion into this thread's culture and not make any grievous faux paws
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