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Me too, though does it have to be a book? They serve very different purposes, so I feel they deserve to be independent papers. The -phone is mostly a warning system useful for the wider population, while the -scope is a tool for non-magical academia to study magical phenomenon.
The scope is also potentially useful for consistent results on study even by magical academia.

Getting around the typical issue of no two forms of Windsight being alike.
 
Ability make pictures of magical phenomena not visible to the naked (non magical) eye is incredibly valuable.
With Sevirscope, there can be a baseline understanding of what is being talked aobut, even when the people discussing are not right next to each other to provide an example.
 
It might be possible to write a book containing both as part of a wider point about using magically-attuned materials in "mundane" devices to non-magically display or announce magical phenomena, but I think we still have to write the papers on them individually.

Like, here's what we have to do to get the Portentiv into production:
there are arguably still steps like demonstrating this to various authorities and distributing schematics to all corners of the Empire,
I don't think we can do that and write the paper on the Sevirscope and have copies of it sent to the Runelords.
 
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The current Seviroscope topics are on two different Timeless papers.

Seviroscope (large, based on glass and alchemical inks) (TIMELESS)
Seviroscope (medium, based on the Portativ organ and Wind-sensitive metals (TIMELESS)
Unless Boney forgot to add a Seviroscope book option, this sort of thing usually means we need a bit more juice before we compile our collected workings onto a book. So... probably a small-sized Seviroscope is the last step.

That way future readers have good examples of the various sizes they can come in, which they could theoretically use to make their own if they wanted.
 
What would be the difference between a book on seviroscopes and just stapling together Mathilde's individual papers?

Dwarfs 8e page 60
I think I found a new reason why some think Skalf made Ghal Maraz. WFRP 4e: Empire in Ruins page 160:
That's Skalf's rune near the head. A clever visual reference on the part of the artist in my opinion. However, none of the five runes in its actual rules are the Master Rune of Skalf Blackhammer; the only master rune is Smednir's Master Rune of Head-Wrecking.

I'm starting to suspect that somewhere there's a setting bible that has a picture of a Dwarven runed hammer and that multiple artists have skimmed that section and come away with the impression that the rune that the hammer happened to have in that picture is a rune that all hammers have.
 
One of Mathilde's subordinates back when she was still Spymaster. She ended up remaining in her position when Mathilde was fired. Always was kinda curious about what she was up to but there was never any real momentum to see it happen.
My guess is that she's either Weissanland's spymaster or that she snagged a position in Eastern Stirland. The noble daughter who served for decades as the 2nd IC of Stirland's spy network makes for an entirely reasonable choice for a new barony given the expected threat of subversion. If not already, then she's probably on the shortlist for the Templa colony barony(s).
 
-scope is a tool for non-magical academia to study magical phenomenon.

And for those wizards who do not have windsense, you can technically have wizards with Aetheric Attunement and Channeling, but not the ability to sense the winds outside themselves. That would allow people who would otherwise be incapable to consciously use magic to do so at least for things like enchanting within the premises of the colleges.
 
What would be the difference between a book on seviroscopes and just stapling together Mathilde's individual papers?
I mean Mathilde (and co) have basicly created a new branch of science/engineering/magic study. So basiclybook would include thoughts about seviroscopy, both how to perform it and where it would be useful, instead of just focusing on the two devices we invented.
And for those wizards who do not have windsense, you can technically have wizards with Aetheric Attunement and Channeling, but not the ability to sense the winds outside themselves. That would allow people who would otherwise be incapable to consciously use magic to do so at least for things like enchanting within the premises of the colleges.
While you could arguably count those people as magic users, they're definitely not wizzards.
 
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What would be the difference between a book on seviroscopes and just stapling together Mathilde's individual papers?
You noted the Portentiv was 'medium' as opposed to the visual seviroscope being 'large', so I thought maybe you were leaving the door open for making a 'small' (?) Seviroscope, based on another instrument, and then the three would combine into a single book, like how the Mushroom papers combined into Thaumomycology?

But if it's just the two because it's Visual and Auditory, yeah, I would assume there is no difference besides presentation.

Edit: Well, I imagine we'd get Favor for them separately if it wasn't a book. I guess that's one difference.
 
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I mean Mathilde (and co) have basicly created a new branch of scienc, engineering, and magic study. So basiclybook would include thoughts about seviroscopy, both how to perform it and where it would be useful, instead of just focusing on the two devices we invented.

No, she's created a couple of gadgets that are novel applications of very well known principles. They might lead to more, but if you want to take a victory lap for them leading to more, you need to obey merciless causality and do so after that actually happens.

You noted the Portentiv was 'medium' as opposed to the visual seviroscope being 'large', so I thought maybe you were leaving the door open for making a 'small' (?) Seviroscope, based on another instrument, and then the three would combine into a single book, like how the Mushroom papers combined into Thaumomycology?

But if it's just the two because it's Visual and Auditory, yeah, I would assume there is no difference besides presentation.

I called it medium because it was smaller than the large but I could imagine significantly smaller ones.
 
I do want to do the elfcation this upcoming turn though. It'd be a nice change to have a small adventure right now.
While that would make my inner Father-turn-wanting self cry, I definitely think there's less grounds to deny the Elfcation now.

I called it medium because it was smaller than the large but I could imagine significantly smaller ones.
But, to be clear, would making a small-sized Seviroscope at this point be overkill for purposes of paper/book-writing?
 
We are still going to have two more actions after elfcation next turn, and right now we are chipping at all important parts of the Waystone project in the background. What else do we need to do? Create a Mass deployable waystone? Investigate nexuses and other networks? Finish mapping? We do not have many urgent things to do now.
 
But, to be clear, would making a small-sized Seviroscope at this point be overkill for purposes of paper/book-writing?

Writing papers isn't a purpose, it's a method of pursuing a number of different purposes. Tell me what it is you actually want to achieve with this whole line of thought and I'll be able to tell you whether making new seviroscope prototypes would help.

We are still going to have two more actions after elfcation next turn, and right now we are chipping at all important parts of the Waystone project in the background. What else do we need to do? Create a Mass deployable waystone? Investigate nexuses and other networks? Finish mapping? We do not have many urgent things to do now.

About now is probably a good time to start discussing what a completed and successful Waystone Project would look like, because it's on Mathilde to mark the finishing line.
 
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