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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Boney said:
Baba Niedzwenka's political opinions have historically been expressed through the medium of attempted ethnic cleansing, so nobody's asked her to weigh in.
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Hmm... :thonk: Well, if we can convince her to switch from ethnic to religious, with religion to be exterminated being "Chaos Pantheon" she would be quite an expert. :V:V:V:V:V

DISCLAIMER: This is a joke, I am not being serious, cleansings are bad m'kay? Pls don't hurt me mods, I am ever so little.
Derpmind said:
New discoveries in linguistics have uncovered a common root-word in the Old One's language: 'Caesar'. The meaning is variably some kind of high ruler, the specific leader of the Old One's presence on Mallus, and a type of cheesy salad. Possibly all three meanings simultaneously. 🥗
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Only three meanings? That's very few for the Old one language. That "Caesar" fellow must've been very important for his name being so specific. :V
 
Boney said:
Baba Niedzwenka's political opinions have historically been expressed through the medium of attempted ethnic cleansing, so nobody's asked her to weigh in.
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I'm surprised she wouldn't weigh in unasked. I'll just speculate her opinions on my own. She definitely is a long term thinker and doesn't have an issue with ethnic cleansing, so one would assume that she is for the Death Bridge approach. On the other hand her past ethnic cleansing efforts were pro-Ungol and anti-Gospodar, so she might prefer Karlsbridge after all. And she may or may not have an anti-urban bias and an interest of being more approachable to the new Tzar in particular, meaning that there's a chance that she would have pushed for the Water Gate if it was her responsibility and this was known after the fact.

So all I can say with a bit of surety is that she wouldn't advocate for the Temple of Dhaz, who afaik is a Gospodariny deity(?)

Whoops. That's wrong apparently. According to the wiki, Dhaz is primarily worshipped by Ungols. In that case her advice could go in all four directions after all. Still, if I had to guess I'd guess Death Bridge and New Town.
 
Waystone surge capability seems to be somewhere that riverine spirt Waystones on boats would excel at. Most population centres are on rivers, so during a Storm of Magic or invasion of nasties you can concentrate your small fleet of riverine Waystones at the settlement that you want to cleanse, and then spread them out most of the time.

THere's no procedure to uproot Waystones, but these ones would never be rooted in the first place.
 
Alratan said:
Waystone surge capability seems to be somewhere that riverine spirt Waystones on boats would excel at. Most population centres are on rivers, so during a Storm of Magic or invasion of nasties you can concentrate your small fleet of riverine Waystones at the settlement that you want to cleanse, and then spread them out most of the time.

THere's no procedure to uproot Waystones, but these ones would never be rooted in the first place.
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Given that one of the components of a Waystone is the Foundation I'm not sure a mobile one would even work. Wouldn't they have to be grounded?
 
DragonParadox said:
Given that one of the components of a Waystone is the Foundation I'm not sure a mobile one would even work. Wouldn't they have to be grounded?
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Boney has confirmed that it would work pretty much out of the box for the riverine spirit version:

Boney said:
When you boil it down, a Waystone has two requirements: to actively draw in and contain ambient magical energy, and to do something that gets it going towards the Great Vortex. The traditional method of doing the latter has been leylines, which do require a fixed point. The spirit riverine method could work on a boat. The non-spirit riverine method would almost work with a boat, but it doesn't have an answer for what to do with Dhar. It wouldn't be difficult to work out some sort of swap-out storage mechanism that can be physically relayed to a fixed Waystone and dumped into the network that way, and some sort of air transmission tower that requires the boat to anchor, extend it, and aim it to work seems feasible.
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I do personally wonder what the actual effect of the Kislev network is though now that we're building onto it. I think all we've heard is that it's an 'Ice Witch thing' which could mean nearly anything. I don't think this is a canon thing that I've just forgotten?. We really should have looked into that before supercharging it with this maybe :lol2:
 
[X] Bridge of Death and New Town


[X] Karlsbridge and Old Town
Im swiftly moving towards a compromise that pleases nobody
friget234 said:
I do personally wonder what the actual effect of the Kislev network is though now that we're building onto it. I think all we've heard is that it's an 'Ice Witch thing' which could mean nearly anything. I don't think this is a canon thing that I've just forgotten?. We really should have looked into that before supercharging it with this maybe :lol2:
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It's what makes ice magic work. The ancient widow is bound to the land of kislev, and the circular (well, square) waystone network keeps all the magic and key lines moving where she can convert it, dhar and all, into ice magic. It was sort of hinted at back in like...turn 38? 39? When the kislev network was talked about

Edit: Correction, niedzwenka just outright said it
Boney said:
They took the leylines of the Elves and turned it into their own vortex," Niedzwenka says with a snort. "Around and around, Erengrad to Kislev City to Praag to Castle Alexandronov and back to Erengrad again, spinning it from Winds to Ice for the Widow's Witches to use against Kislev's enemies. Didn't the Elves howl and screech when they finally returned to Norvard and found their precious stones serving human masters!
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Alratan said:
Waystone surge capability seems to be somewhere that riverine spirt Waystones on boats would excel at. Most population centres are on rivers, so during a Storm of Magic or invasion of nasties you can concentrate your small fleet of riverine Waystones at the settlement that you want to cleanse, and then spread them out most of the time.

THere's no procedure to uproot Waystones, but these ones would never be rooted in the first place.
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If that's feasible, it would have some wonderful synergy with all these canals that Mathilde keeps convincing people to build... Certainly worth exploring!
 
Rafin said:
I'm surprised she wouldn't weigh in unasked. I'll just speculate her opinions on my own. She definitely is a long term thinker and doesn't have an issue with ethnic cleansing, so one would assume that she is for the Death Bridge approach. On the other hand her past ethnic cleansing efforts were pro-Ungol and anti-Gospodar, so she might prefer Karlsbridge after all. And she may or may not have an anti-urban bias and an interest of being more approachable to the new Tzar in particular, meaning that there's a chance that she would have pushed for the Water Gate if it was her responsibility and this was known after the fact.

So all I can say with a bit of surety is that she wouldn't advocate for the Temple of Dhaz, who afaik is a Gospodariny deity(?)

Whoops. That's wrong apparently. According to the wiki, Dhaz is primarily worshipped by Ungols. In that case her advice could go in all four directions after all. Still, if I had to guess I'd guess Death Bridge and New Town.
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If Baba Niedzwenka still recognized the modern Ungols as her people, she'd still be killing Gospodars in their name. The king she swore to is forgotten, the language she swore in is spoken by maybe a dozen or so academics, and the Gods she swore by are no longer recognizable. The Ungols of today are as alien to her as the Gospodars were when the Khan-Queens led them to war. The only motivation of hers left that anyone's been able to identify is to not be bored.
 
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