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"Shove an entire continent's worth of dhar into rivers and make it all Marienburg's problem" is now an option.

Probably something we could use to threaten pass codes out of the high elves, honestly. "Look, this is what we come up with when we're working on our own. With the pass codes we can come up with less jury rigged solutions that don't leave a giant mess for you to deal with."

That would absolutely run afoul of the articles. Even not trying to stop someone from doing that would be breaking the articles, by my understanding.
 
I was thinking that it might be the Queen putting pressure on them/offering the houses things to help more, as she would see an advantage in any hypothetical Ulthuan request to 'shut down the project' to be a bigger thing to ask for.

Could be, but we do not really know how able the queen is to do that. She seems more first among equals than autocrat, certainly more so than the Phoenix King. That said we do not know what kind of offers have been made by the Druchi or how close she thinks an Ulthuan delegation might be so I could see her doing some quiet horse trading to get them manpower and aid.
 
Eh, not really. Most any treatise and instruction on fighting with a shield I've come across (unless it's as immense as the Greek aspis and designed to be supported by the shoulder) recommends holding the shield as far out as possible to block as many angles of attack around the shield as possible, and to keep distance in case the enemy tries to hook the shield away.

As well, holding the shield close to your body in a fight means that all the impact of a blow that hits the shield will still get transferred to your body, which is at minimum going to be unpleasant and fatiguing.
And shields are not, most of the time, actually designed to block attacks. They can, it's better than eating the hit on your armor, but it damages them. Ideally you still parry with the shield, glancing the hit off rather than absorbing it. You can't do that with it glued to your side.
 
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Malekith made some of his equipment personally to be fair. Although I wonder if Vaul would be involved at all? The Hammer of Vaul was used to make Malekith's armour at the very least.
Yeah but I was referring to his armor because that's what saves him. The sword is Malekith's creation, so I guess if you think Malekith's creation is inferior to Kragg's. Either way, it wouldn't be in our favour.
 
So what we have left is, by my reckoning:

1. actually test the river leylines, though this might be unnecessary as its own step
2. Actually test the capstone prototype, though this might, again, not be necessary as its own step.
3. Get the foundation working, which is likely a number of actions
4. Put it together

And then we have a working, highly limited system if we just want to grab energies and dump it in an adjacent river, and could probably hook the tributaries up anywhere there's a river even absent the rest of the network. The major issue here is that we're limited to spreading the new network along rivers, possibly only big old rivers like the Reik, Stir, and Talabec, and we'd be limited to dumping the magic in the ocean rather than sending it to the Vortex, let alone doing anything cool with it.

However, I do think that this would be very good as a step forward that lets us show the assorted backers of the project that we're worth our funding, while also providing signifigant benefits to the Old World.
 
So... that Titan metal.

Once Tradelord Greasus Goldtooth shows up, it might be a good idea to invite the ogres to the table :V (metaphorically)

Might be a possible source of Titan metal.
 
That would absolutely run afoul of the articles. Even not trying to stop someone from doing that would be breaking the articles, by my understanding.

The Articles are not a fairy's curse, they exist because they are politically convenient to everyone from the religious to the secular authorities and because in most cases it is just sane to follow them. Convince all the stake holders to make an exception and an exception will be made. That said I do not think the cult of Maanan would be down with it.
 
So it comes down to the foundation, will this be the roadblock we've been waiting to hit this whole time or is the waystone project about to change the world for the better?
 
One fun thing I like about the River option is that it has a natural defense mechanism, namely the river monsters that might get pissed at you if you try mucking about with it.
 
It does the job about as well as the Hedgewise stones did, which is a poor showing from something ancient and valuable going up against a bag of rocks.
Hilarious!

Man, we're just zooming through all these construction issues. I can't help but wonder when the other shoe might drop, or maybe if the issues will only show when we try to put this thing together.
 
So what we have left is, by my reckoning:

1. actually test the river leylines, though this might be unnecessary as its own step
2. Actually test the capstone prototype, though this might, again, not be necessary as its own step.
3. Get the foundation working, which is likely a number of actions
4. Put it together

And then we have a working, highly limited system if we just want to grab energies and dump it in an adjacent river, and could probably hook the tributaries up anywhere there's a river even absent the rest of the network. The major issue here is that we're limited to spreading the new network along rivers, possibly only big old rivers like the Reik, Stir, and Talabec, and we'd be limited to dumping the magic in the ocean rather than sending it to the Vortex, let alone doing anything cool with it.

However, I do think that this would be very good as a step forward that lets us show the assorted backers of the project that we're worth our funding, while also providing signifigant benefits to the Old World.
We can also pull the dhar out of the river near an existing waystone and dump it into that rather than into the ocean.
 
First, typos:
the purpose of this Project is to get rid of harmful magical enemies
I mean, it's not incorrect, but still, should this be "energies" instead?
I can think of a handful of enchantsments or devices to achieve this just off the top of my head.
enchantments

Anyway, that Branarhune trait is so good! I wonder, though, how effective it'll be if/when we make the Shadowsword spell and write the book on our sword style. I guess the only people we'd have to worry about are other Greys, since who else is gonna read a book on a sword style that only applies to a specific type of magic sword?

More importantly, Eike continues to make Apprentice Mathilde look like a chump, and I am here for it!
 
Just to check, @Boney does Mathilde perceive a very significant uptick in Grey Lord/Great House assistance in the project, and with no further effort/promises on her part? 'cuz that was I perceived occurring this update.

While there's definitely more getting involved, there's also more opportunity to get involved. Everything before now can be filed under 'figure out the Waystones', now that things are actually getting built it's a lot easier for individuals with specific skillsets to see discrete point where they can make a contribution without committing to a multi-year project. Aksel and Tochter tapped others for help, too. So that added variable makes it hard to gauge whether something has actually changed.

Also, can we ask you 'who would Mathilde think to to on the social turn to ask about this?', or would 'who to ask' be the sort of thing we players should decide?

That's a player thing.

So what we have left is, by my reckoning:

1. actually test the river leylines, though this might be unnecessary as its own step
2. Actually test the capstone prototype, though this might, again, not be necessary as its own step.
3. Get the foundation working, which is likely a number of actions
4. Put it together

1 and 2 don't need doing, they're confirmed to work separately. The only remaining question is what happens if you plug them into a foundation, which will be found out as part of 4.
 
Eh, not really. Most any treatise and instruction on fighting with a shield I've come across (unless it's as immense as the Greek aspis and designed to be supported by the shoulder) recommends holding the shield as far out as possible to block as many angles of attack around the shield as possible, and to keep distance in case the enemy tries to hook the shield away.

As well, holding the shield close to your body in a fight means that all the impact of a blow that hits the shield will still get transferred to your body, which is at minimum going to be unpleasant and fatiguing.
This is the only image we have (that I know of) of the Supreme Spellshield:
Considering Malekith often fights from dragonback, where the main threat is probably lances, I suspect it works differently than most.
 
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And then we have a working, highly limited system if we just want to grab energies and dump it in an adjacent river, and could probably hook the tributaries up anywhere there's a river even absent the rest of the network. The major issue here is that we're limited to spreading the new network along rivers, possibly only big old rivers like the Reik, Stir, and Talabec, and we'd be limited to dumping the magic in the ocean rather than sending it to the Vortex, let alone doing anything cool with it.
I don't think we'll have as much of an issue with that as long as we dump the magic somewhere that already has a working waystone with tributaries (like Marienburg). If anything, we've found a way to purge almost the entirety of the Empires pent-up dhar already.
 
Man, we're just zooming through all these construction issues. I can't help but wonder when the other shoe might drop, or maybe if the issues will only show when we try to put this thing together.
Honestly, I see it as all our hard work in recruiting all these different groups of magic users bearing fruit. I can't imagine not having the Hedgewise or the Hag Witches with us for this project for example, and we went out of our way to grab those guys.
 
Honestly, I see it as all our hard work in recruiting all these different groups of magic users bearing fruit. I can't imagine not having the Hedgewise or the Hag Witches with us for this project for example, and we went out of our way to grab those guys.

Not to mention the sheer political pull we dragged into this

Thorek: Yo Metalsmiths guild, this Umgi wizard needs to look at your samples
Metalsmith Grandmaster: *opens mouth, thinks about it, closes mouth*
Thorek: That's what I thought :V
 
ranarhune: You have invented an entirely new set of sword techniques that take advantage of the Rune of the Unknown, making most conventional defensive techniques useless against you. +1 Martial. When wielding Branulhune: martial skill of human-size opponents is not applied while they are defending, unless they know of Branarhune and either know of or are able to come up with countermeasures to it.
say Boney,

Could Mathilde do something like hire a bunch of ogres of varying sizes to spar with her so that this trait will apply to greater then human-sized (up to a certain point) opponents?

It seems like it would be worth the effort even if it ends up being only useful against ogres and particularly sizeable orks.
 
ranarhune: You have invented an entirely new set of sword techniques that take advantage of the Rune of the Unknown, making most conventional defensive techniques useless against you. +1 Martial. When wielding Branulhune: martial skill of human-size opponents is not applied while they are defending, unless they know of Branarhune and either know of or are able to come up with countermeasures to it.
say Boney,

Could Mathilde do something like hire a bunch of ogres of varying sizes to spar with her so that this trait will apply to greater then human-sized (up to a certain point) opponents?

It seems like it would be worth the effort even if it ends up being only useful against ogres and particularly sizeable orks.
Maybe in a few dozen or so turns if there's a Greatsword, Grandmaster rank.
 
In my eyes, we're done with 'be better at swording' actions. I have negative interest in more for quite some time.

I'm not hugely invested in it unlike others are, but next time we go to improve Mathilde's killyness I think Apparitions is the way to go.
 
ranarhune: You have invented an entirely new set of sword techniques that take advantage of the Rune of the Unknown, making most conventional defensive techniques useless against you. +1 Martial. When wielding Branulhune: martial skill of human-size opponents is not applied while they are defending, unless they know of Branarhune and either know of or are able to come up with countermeasures to it.
say Boney,

Could Mathilde do something like hire a bunch of ogres of varying sizes to spar with her so that this trait will apply to greater then human-sized (up to a certain point) opponents?

It seems like it would be worth the effort even if it ends up being only useful against ogres and particularly sizeable orks.

No, it's more about larger creatures having increased reach than it is about a lack of experience. Branarhune's tricks don't really work on someone who can bonk you while their torso is still out of swording range.
 
"It's a centralization of expertise," Elrisse says. "Have the Archmages, or the Smith-Priests of Vaul, or whoever put all their effort into forging the pyramidions, and then you can send them out with masons. I have a feeling that the bases will either be very simple, or will have a component that is very portable. This is how you dot a world with Waystones."
This is the question, are the foundations relatively simple or do they have some of the most complex magic parts as plug in pieces?
 
ranarhune: You have invented an entirely new set of sword techniques that take advantage of the Rune of the Unknown, making most conventional defensive techniques useless against you. +1 Martial. When wielding Branulhune: martial skill of human-size opponents is not applied while they are defending, unless they know of Branarhune and either know of or are able to come up with countermeasures to it.
say Boney,

Could Mathilde do something like hire a bunch of ogres of varying sizes to spar with her so that this trait will apply to greater then human-sized (up to a certain point) opponents?

It seems like it would be worth the effort even if it ends up being only useful against ogres and particularly sizeable orks.
I think the problem is that at too large a size difference blocking becomes moot. If we are swinging at an ogre we are already too far into it's reach for it to block, or we are too far outside of our own reach to do a guard break meaningfully.
 
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