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- This miserable sphere of dirt and water
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- They/Them
Teclis (Teclis)
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
- Thread starter Boney
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- Location
- Leeds
Daddy (Teclis)
Depends on how good Panoramia is at keeping Mathilde's true nature as a closet cinnamon bun hidden.
Hold on. Didn't Paranoth visit K8P? Cause if yes, he would probaby be aware of Cython
Hold on. Aren't Waystones supposed to keep the magic contained? You could actively tap into them if you know what you are doing, but otherwise they should be reducing the amount of free magic in the area. Or am I misremembering?
Alas, I have things to do whithin the next few day.
While the image is hilarious, there is already a Chaos Dragon in Altdorf. We can always ask him.
Lastly, a very serious question: what would be Wolf's opinion on the introduction of the Cheese Tax?
Now we know why they kept it there.
Cython isn't that active in the Karak's social circles. Most people who visit it have no idea there's a Dragon present.
It prevents build-up, but it's still drawing in all the ambient Winds in the area and they can be intercepted and made use of by Wizards. And the Jades in particular are taught techniques to draw energy directly from the Waystones.
- Location
- Europa, Jupiter Orbit
An Everchosen Orc implies non-Khornate Chaos Orcs, which is even weirder. Corrupting Orcs into Khornate attitudes of warfare instead of their more natural ones is not that big of a conceptual leap. Just take the worst personality traits of Black Orcs, add a bit of Human-flavored hatred and driven rage and then encase all that in cursed brass and you're pretty much done.
Nurgle Orcs aren't too hard of a leap either. Weaponizing their spore-based reproductive process is downright terrifying though.
But what would an enduring faction on Slaaneshi or Tzeentchian Orcs look like? And I mean Orcs. No stopping at Goblins and calling it a day.
shepsquared
Erratic Aussie
- Location
- Melbourne, Australia
An excellent question and from what I remember we don't know which Chaos God the Iron Orcs in Brettonia are aligned with. A Slaneeshi orc would be one taking the Waaagh mentality to the extreme - always charging for the biggest fanciest git and bringing it down with whatever the orc's weapon of choice is. I'd expect more attacking of other orcs that get in the way than is normal for orcs.
Tzeentchian orcs would be more goblin like, but I'd expect a focus on 'bog standard orc tactics that turn out to be hiding daemons/warpfire bombs/other surprises' in them, as well as a focus on diversionary tactics.
- Location
- Europe
Slaneshi orks trying to one up eachother with ever increasingly uselessly oversized choppas
Sir_Travelsalot
Never wakes up tired.
- Location
- At Home
You don't even need Black Orcs for Chaos Orcs, the Iron Orcs already exist in the mountains of Carcassonne, and they're described as 'obvious servants of Chaos'.
As for Tzeentch, there was already those shamans in K8P who were trying to warp the worship of Gork and Mork through arcane ritual before Mathilde and Ranald hijacked it, it wouldn't be a stretch to have shamans that outright try to control the Orc Gods.
As for Slaanesh, you could do something with the 'savage' Orcs, the ones who go into battle in war paint instead of armour, that seems to magically make them more resilient to damage. For all that it has a really outsized portion of the aesthetic, Slaaneshi do have that whole sadomasochism element, so you could work with an element of "'urt me more, 'umie!". Or have them go into increasingly elaborate patterns of paint, with ever more rare magical ingredients, until you arrive at Orcs that can shrug off being hit by a Greatcannon.
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Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
- Location
- Vermont
Take some inspiration from the new Orc faction in AoS? Swamp Orcs that are experts in ambush tactics and cool up crazy stuff on their cook pots in worship of Mork? Not as far a leap from there to Tzeentch.
The Duke of Carcassonne spoke of armor bearing runes of the dark Gods, plural, so they're probably not aligned with just one God.
The Iron Orcs seem to be a variant of Black Orcs, which we know were created as part of a very long scheme by Tzeentch, so I definitely wouldn't rule out Tzeentchian Iron Orcs being a thing. Maybe shamans of a corrupted Big Waaagh? With a focus on spells that mutate their fellow orcs, perhaps? Mutation and magic are as much a part of Tzeentch as intrigue and planning, after all.
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- Europa, Jupiter Orbit
Slaaneshi Orks in 40k it would be easy. Take specialized weirdos like Flash Gitz, Speed Freeks and Kommandos and push it up to downright unorky proportions. Have Stormboy Nobs that never outgrow their passion and obsession for regimental discipline.
As for Waaagh mentality, I don't actually know how well that works without Gork and Mork. It's one of the things I am more curious about when it comes to investigating the Chaos Orcs in Bretonnia.
As for Waaagh mentality, I don't actually know how well that works without Gork and Mork. It's one of the things I am more curious about when it comes to investigating the Chaos Orcs in Bretonnia.
I meant Black Orc like traits. It doesn't necessarily have to be actual Black Orc ancestry.
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
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- Vermont
One thing I'm curious about is if the Hobgoblin Khanate worships G&M, and if they Waaagh the same.
Because there's no mention anywhere of them doing either, and if they don't, that raises interesting questions about Greenskins. Is the Waaagh actually something inherent to them or a 'blessing' by G&M, not present if the tribe in question don't worship them?
(I suppose Gnoblars raise a similar idea, but they're pathetic enough I'm not sure they could Waaagh either way)
Tasoli
Life is for Living
- Location
- Behind the Keyboard.
Honestly I expected something like "Prince Teclis (SP(E) White Tower)".
He wasn't put in charge of the White Tower until his return to Ulthuan, so at that point he would have been 'just' an Archmage. So his academic credentials would have been L.M.(E). Teclis (White Tower), but the rank of Prince takes precedence over that.
Don't forget that cunning is one of two orcish virtues. A Slaaneshi orc would probably take pleasure in the execution of a particularly cunning plan (especially if it was also brutal), whilst a Tzeentchian orc would focus on the creation of a cunning plan, without much regard to its completion or consequences.
K von Carstein
Likes to go for a walk
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- Belgium
- Pronouns
- He
For Lord Magister Elvish?
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
- Location
- Vermont
Lord Magister (Equivalent)
K von Carstein
Likes to go for a walk
- Location
- Belgium
- Pronouns
- He
It seems like the average Archmage would take objection to that
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
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- Vermont
It's based on rank, not power or ability.It seems like the average Archmage would take objection to that
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- Europa, Jupiter Orbit
Being Slaaneshi doesn't just mean enjoying excellence. At best that's a gateway.
Also, I could imagine it the other way around as well. A Slaaneshi might sit who knows how long attempting to create the most cunning plan ever, the plan that he thinks would make Mork cream himself, to the delight of Slaanesh. The actual feasibility of the plan might get lost on the way and the consequences never mattered anyway, because the cunning plan is its own purpose.
Tzeentch on the other hand is about hope and change and ambition. On the level of a mortal that's not too far lost, plans are the (favored) means to an end. The Tzeentchian Orc would try to actually apply brutally cunning plans to reality. The kinds of brutally cunning plans that show that regular Morkish plans are just primitive jokes. That said plans might fail in the end and have consequences completely unintended by the "planner" in question is the way of Tzeentch, but it is usually not the way of his followers. Those think that they are the exception, because you see, their goals are important and they are just using Tzeentch for Their gifts and access to the fools that think they follow Them too.
Or at least that's my interpretation.
deathofrats0808
Don’t think of it as dying; just as leaving early
- Location
- Earth
I think that Teclis is a Prince as a courtesy title (and that gets overridden by High Loremaster), as Tyrion inherited their father's lands (such as they are). And Tyrion tends to stay out of politics, and just stabs things that need stabbing.
- Location
- North Wales
- Pronouns
- He/Him/His
I think there's room for Slaaneshi tendencies in Orcish culture by way of adding sadomasochism to the violence. It's not Proppa Orky behaviour to get off on murdering rivals to that extent, but it's not so far beyond the pale that it would get you booted out on sight. Just looked at as a weirdo.
K von Carstein
Likes to go for a walk
- Location
- Belgium
- Pronouns
- He
Well, yeah. An Archmage would object to being equaled to a LM for both reasons.