There's a reason why in End Times they put a third Chaos gate there.
(Personally I think a third chaos gate is dumb, but if you had to put it anywhere, the middle mountains are like, one of the top three locations for it)
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There's a reason why in End Times they put a third Chaos gate there.
(Personally I think a third chaos gate is dumb, but if you had to put it anywhere, the middle mountains are like, one of the top three locations for it)
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Hypothesis: one of the original prototypes of waystones, and they went with physical ones due to difficulty/effort of construction immaterial waystones, or an expirmental variant of a new type of waystone that did not be adopted generally, but this one-off still worked fine and was kept in place.
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The Dawi didn't leave because of a curse. Boney spoke up on this matter when someone asked about a curse on the Middle Mountains:
The Dawi leaving because of a curse on the mountains is a Dynamic Alcoholism thing last I checked. The Brass Keep is cursed for sure, but the Mountain hasn't shown any signs of things being worse than usual. Sure it produces beasts of nature and Beastmen, but so do all the Forests of the Empire.
Thorek said the mountains might be cursed and I am likely to believe him since dawi are very literal. Also any mountains not having any minerals may be something going on since that is a dawi nightmare. Which I think a dawi would curse another dawi with.
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He said this:
Perhaps the mountains are cursed, but the way it's phrased, it sounds like Thorek is making the assumption that because "treachery grows in the hearts of those who live under that cursed peak" that it means the mountains are at fault for people "betraying the Karaz Ankor".
On one hand, you have the biased account of Thorek, a character inside the story. On the other, you have Boney, the one who writes this story. It's also a leap to assume that because Thorek believes the mountain to be cursed that it's the reason the Dawi left. It seems obvious to me that the reason they left is that they couldn't eke out a living there. It's been explicitly mentioned that it lacks mineral deposits. Dwarves thrive on those deposits.
Also, mountains not having enough minerals to make a living off of is quite literally natural. What is up with the conclusions being jumped to here. A curse doesn't need to exist for that to be the case.
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Another thing to consider is the geopolitics. Those lands don't have a lot of exploitable natural resources, but they are perfectly placed to be a crossroads to everywhere else that does have natural resources—but this brings with it the cultural baggage that traders and merchants are seen as "parasitic" by the feudal societies based in that region, creating a feedback loop of "need to be merchants to survive"->"nobody trusts us and will not give us a fair deal"->"must embrace greed and selfishness to maximise income"->"people trust us even less".
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Not sure we want to get a Marienburg faction into the Project involving Laurelorn Elves that could perhaps damage their trade interests by introducing another source of Elven goods.
EDIT: Not to mention their connection to the Asur, who Boney told us might want this project shut down, would make the High Elves much more likely to find out.
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I'd like to once again push my 'substance of shadow is the only approach that will let us practice with a sword that will both disappear properly and not kill people' plan, utilizing Johann as our sparring partner.
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Substance doesn't make things disappear. It makes them immaterial (except for the caster). You can't make an object that's substanced teleport, and the object still remains visible, it's just translucent.
EDIT: I'm wrong on the visible thing. I checked again and it makes things invisible (how does Mathilde know where the Substanced object lies then? Does it become invisible to her too? Or is it selectively visible to her?). Doesn't make them teleport though.
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Telefragging is dangerous because Boney said that what happens with it isn't consistent. It's random everytime, not something that can be relied on. If we want to telefrag, then make sure it happens far away from us. The other issue with SoS is the same issue Burning Shadows has. You have to be in cast shadow, which is very specific. In training scenarios it's possible, but it's far more situational in live combat.
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I don't think we need weapon enchantments anyway. We have the best weapon the current races are capable of making, save for perhaps Daith, the shifty fuck. Telefragging is just a useless sci-fi meme. You want to mess with offensive selective materialization, you better be ready to be dragged into warp when it explodes reality in your face and you return as gibbering chaosspawn.
(slight overexagerration because there are spells to selectively materialize, but still)
There are better ways to expend our effort ngl.
(slight overexagerration because there are spells to selectively materialize, but still)
There are better ways to expend our effort ngl.
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Mopman43
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The point would be to make something that other people could use some version of Branarhune with.
Having your own unique style is cool and all, but being the origin of a unique and still-extant style is even cooler.
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Then stop training with the disappearing part, push for actual Greatsword Grandmastery, not Branulhune Grandmastery. Its actually useful because it makes the style teachable and useful for more than like 5 people at any given point.
Honestly, making a whole new spell we have no traits for to codify so that some enchanter picks it up and makes the swords that make teaching the style even relevant to more than two people instead of learning what liminal spaces are so we can stuff Horned Rat in them and steal his lunchbox is incredible time waste
Im not even sure why im telling it to you tbh, you said it yourself, this is not liable to be practical in combat. Just consider it nebulously aimed at people that were thinking about it
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Mopman43
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Well, no. Absolutely not.
The whole point of developing Branarhune is to take advantage of Branulhune's properties to make it as deadly as possible.
No need to handicap ourselves.
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Then it is intransferable because there is only one of those swords lying around and there will never be another exactly like it. Can't have both, its one or the other
I do think Greatsword Grandmastery has a big advantage in that the next time Khorne says no, we won't lose whatever perks we gain from basing our entire style on gimmick that tends to not work when someone with enough potency glares at the rune hard.
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Mopman43
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Which is why there's a lot of thoughts around developing something to mimic Branulhune.Then it is intransferable because there is only one of those around. Can't have both, its one or the other
Let me be clear, if I have to pick one, I'm picking Branarhune. But I can understand wanting to be able to pass it on.
(Well, we might be able to pass it on to one person, but that would only come into effect when Mathilde transfers Branulhune, which would be a 'last will an testament' sort of situation, I would think)
Alternatively, the mastery will eventually compound with the Blessed Weapon mastery and let us do the same tricks with normal swords and provide glare-resistance with Branulhune.
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You can't mimic Branurhune.
Its a legendary sword from legendary smith from people that are legendary at smithing. Any imitation would be so weak the effort of it would be purely style points.
Want a sword that passes through anything non-physical? We have that, thats Occam's mindrazor, its battle magic. There you go.
Branulhune's intangibility/teleportation effects that would have to be mimicked are already gimicky when exposed to sufficient magic, any possible knock off would be so rickety it would only be usable against mundane weaponry and let me tell you, its probably your best bet for surviving to not expect enemy to have just mundane steel, because if you cripplingly overspecialized in learning martial art that can fail you any time your enemy pulls out cursed shit, it might've just been better to learn normal swording.
Blessed Weapons is simple, we are comfy with weapon in our grip, so we instinctively channel ulgu. How is that meant to shield Rune from attention of beings capable of supressing its effects?
Its a legendary sword from legendary smith from people that are legendary at smithing. Any imitation would be so weak the effort of it would be purely style points.
Want a sword that passes through anything non-physical? We have that, thats Occam's mindrazor, its battle magic. There you go.
Branulhune's intangibility/teleportation effects that would have to be mimicked are already gimicky when exposed to sufficient magic, any possible knock off would be so rickety it would only be usable against mundane weaponry and let me tell you, its probably your best bet for surviving to not expect enemy to have just mundane steel, because if you cripplingly overspecialized in learning martial art that can fail you any time your enemy pulls out cursed shit, it might've just been better to learn normal swording.
What would be the metaphysicals here?
Blessed Weapons is simple, we are comfy with weapon in our grip, so we instinctively channel ulgu. How is that meant to shield Rune from attention of beings capable of supressing its effects?
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Mopman43
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Sufficient anti-magic.
Like, it not working when you're in combat with a Champion of Khorne is a really damn high bar to clear. I don't consider it a knock against the sword or the style.
Something that's extremely useful against 99% of opponents isn't useless because it doesn't work against that last 1%.