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Generally people are afraid that drycha is using the power of the leyline for something. Tapping into a leyline held a dwarf hold in the warp for several hundred years and they tried to be subtle about it. If we know for sure the leyline is disconnected in the forest we can plan our attack around disrupting the ritual it is being used in.

"Kill the one doing them and they tend to end," Regimand advises helpfully.

Problem solved.

But on a more serious note, actually having Ice Witches on our team would really help shut down any funny business with the waystone, mainly because they are the ones with the permissions and secrets to actually mess with them.
 
Problem solved.

But on a more serious note, actually having Ice Witches on our team would really help shut down any funny business with the waystone, mainly because they are the ones with the permissions and secrets to actually mess with them.
Yeah, the waystone is in Kislev city. There is no stone in the forest, only the line goes through it. So if we find the leyline is fucked in the Forrest we have to deal with it there. And it's easy to say "kill it" but that's just it, it's easy to say, not to do.
If they leyline action is taken, Mathilde would be investigating between the Shirokij and Kislev City, far from any potential enemies. She won't be looking for where it actually terminates, just checking to see if it's flowing from Kislev City into the Shirokij or whether it's not flowing from Kislev City at all.
 
conclude that you might be able to accomplish it if you're able to personally witness the effect the charge has on sufficiently varied foes.
Oh my goodness! Potential paper bait.

I definitely want to hit the waystone, undecided on the other option.

[x] Investigate the missing leyline
[X] Bring in the Kreml Guard
 
I will say that "cutting off the messengers except for this one specific message to lure this specific Boyar into a trap" is a very strange move, so I'm gonna go ahead and say that we should probably go investigate that - hopefully it'll shed some more light on this mystery. Athel Loren doesn't exactly have an enormous interest in Kislev most of the time, and neither does Drycha.

This could be a multi-faction clusterfuck - Drycha, Beastmen, Athel Loren, and Kislev all making up sides of a 1v1v1v1.

[X] Find the Boyar
[X] Scout the Shirokij

As such, I'm gonna make a pretty unorthodox vote given how the tally is going - to scout.

Yes, it's hideously dangerous - that's why you send the Grey Lord Magister to do it. Nobody else has anywhere near our chances of doing this scouting, which means that if this is a multi-faction pileup, then this is our best chance to set things up so our enemies do as much damage to each other as possible, K8P style, instead of having Kislev's forces blindly slam into multiple fronts.
 
I will say that "cutting off the messengers except for this one specific message to lure this specific Boyar into a trap" is a very strange move, so I'm gonna go ahead and say that we should probably go investigate that - hopefully it'll shed some more light on this mystery. Athel Loren doesn't exactly have an enormous interest in Kislev most of the time, and neither does Drycha.

This could be a multi-faction clusterfuck - Drycha, Beastmen, Athel Loren, and Kislev all making up sides of a 1v1v1v1.

[X] Find the Boyar
[X] Scout the Shirokij

As such, I'm gonna make a pretty unorthodox vote given how the tally is going - to scout.

Yes, it's hideously dangerous - that's why you send the Grey Lord Magister to do it. Nobody else has anywhere near our chances of doing this scouting, which means that if this is a multi-faction pileup, then this is our best chance to set things up so our enemies do as much damage to each other as possible, K8P style, instead of having Kislev's forces blindly slam into multiple fronts.

Damn, scouting probably will be needed now that I think about it. Sending armies blind into the forest just seems foolish.

So if we are gonna scout anyway, better to do it as soon as possible so we can inform our actions better. Sure it's risky, but it's not a risk we can really avoid unless we want to send an army blind. Plus, we might get a chance to steal early loot and sabotage.

[x] Scout the Shirokij
 
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I will say that "cutting off the messengers except for this one specific message to lure this specific Boyar into a trap" is a very strange move, so I'm gonna go ahead and say that we should probably go investigate that - hopefully it'll shed some more light on this mystery. Athel Loren doesn't exactly have an enormous interest in Kislev most of the time, and neither does Drycha.

This could be a multi-faction clusterfuck - Drycha, Beastmen, Athel Loren, and Kislev all making up sides of a 1v1v1v1.

[X] Find the Boyar
[X] Scout the Shirokij

As such, I'm gonna make a pretty unorthodox vote given how the tally is going - to scout.

Yes, it's hideously dangerous - that's why you send the Grey Lord Magister to do it. Nobody else has anywhere near our chances of doing this scouting, which means that if this is a multi-faction pileup, then this is our best chance to set things up so our enemies do as much damage to each other as possible, K8P style, instead of having Kislev's forces blindly slam into multiple fronts.
This is a damn good point.
[X] Scout the Shirokij
 
[X] Bring in the Kreml Guard
[X] Bring in Ice Witches
[X] Scout the Shirokij

Yeah, actually scouting sounds important. Man, I'm really hoping the Tzar drags his feet on this.
 
[X] Bring in the Kreml Guard
[X] Scout the Shirokij

I think scouting is the best thing we can do and I want to see Boris show up more in the story, especially Mathilde interacting with him.
 
[x] Bring in the Kreml Guard
Tsarevich Boris is leading the Kreml Guard, but they are travelling on foot on a dirt road and may not arrive in time for the battle. Kislev's forces actually having infantry would be helpful for a battle in a forest. Use Rite of Way to speed their journey

[X] Scout the Shirokij
 
[Y] Scout the Shirokij

I'd prefer to scout immediately in front of the army, not several days away from it, so I think ice witches and infantry. Both are likely to wait a breath before charging in, so ride north this turn for reinforcements, scout next turn.
 
This could be a multi-faction clusterfuck - Drycha, Beastmen, Athel Loren, and Kislev all making up sides of a 1v1v1v1.
I'm not sure how this follows? I mean yeah, something is definitely up here and I'm all for finding the Boyar and hopefully figuring out what that is, but do we have any reason to believe that this is a 'multi-faction clusterfuck'?
 
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[Y] Scout the Shirokij

I'd prefer to scout immediately in front of the army, not several days away from it, so I think ice witches and infantry. Both are likely to wait a breath before charging in, so ride north this turn for reinforcements, scout next turn.

I feel we are more likely to be able to scout unnoticed now than when there is an army heading into the forest.

It also gives us time to plan our future actions and select our targets for assassination, sabotage, etc. Plus, if there is some kind of ritual going on, the sooner we catch on and stop it the better. If the enemy in the forest gets spooked when they see their trap misfired and brought too much heat, they might resort to drastic measures.

Even if you want to scout later, I still think we should scout now. Having pre-scouted would make any subsequent scouting much more efficient due to having more info on what/where to scout.
 
If Drycha actually is in there somewhere, that would be as bad as trying to sneak through the Morghur-inhabited forest surrounding Karag Dum. That's just foolhardy.
 
I'm not sure how this follows? I mean yeah, something here definitely up here and I'm all for finding the Boyar and hopefully figuring out what that is, but do we have any reason to believe that this is a 'multi-faction clusterfuck'?

At the very least, we know pretty much for sure that beastmen, Athel Loren and Kislev are involved. How the abscence of beastmen in Ostermark is linked to the presence of the Athel Loren warhost is the biggest mystery I hope to solve through scouting to be honest.

It changes a lot if they are together in a singular host vs them being actively fighting each other or the Athen Loren host having wiped out the beastmen.

If Drycha actually is in there somewhere, that would be as bad as trying to sneak through the Morghur-inhabited forest surrounding Karag Dum. That's just foolhardy.

We are an avatar (at least we have the trait) and are wearing an holy artefact of Ranald set on the Night Prowler. As long as we do our scouting during the night, I'm sure the dice will come through for us.
 
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Even disregarding the metagaming aspect of Drycha being the target, we know that our enemy warhost has some sort of Forest Spirit contingent and they've had time to prepare.

I don't think it would be particularly wise to go around scouting a forest inhabited by prepared forest spirits. Forests aren't even Mathilde's specialty. The chances of her being absolutely wrecked is far too high for me to risk the scouting option. Maybe if we had Eonir to back us up I would have felt confident about it.
 
Yeah- like I said, if we are going to do it, I'd prefer to do it when an army is close enough that we can flee to it. Like Karak Lhune.
 
At the very least, we know pretty much for sure that beastmen, Athel Loren and Kislev are involved. How the abscence of beastmen in Ostermark is linked to the presence of the Athel Loren warhost is the biggest mystery I hope to solve through scouting to be honest.

It changes a lot if they are together in a singular host vs them being actively fighting each other or the Athen Loren host having wiped out the beastmen.



We are an avatar (at least we have the trait) and are wearing an holy artefact of Ranald set on the Night Prowler. As long as we do our scouting during the night, I'm sure the dice will come through for us.
Night Prowler will do absolutely nothing to help scout a forest. It's for towns and cities, not for the dangerous woods.

[X] Bring in the Kreml Guard
[X] Bring in Ice Witches
[X] Find the Boyar
 
Guys... I think it is worth keeping in mind why we want to the Longshanks and then the Hedgewise for information instead of scouting the forest on the other side of the river, you know the nice safe forest with no trace of a fey warhost in it. Mathilde is not good with trees and she is not skilled in forests and I wold rather she not get killed trying to spy on people who are not just good with trees, they are the trees
 
Even disregarding the metagaming aspect of Drycha being the target, we know that our enemy warhost has some sort of Forest Spirit contingent and they've had time to prepare.

I don't think it would be particularly wise to go around scouting a forest inhabited by prepared forest spirits. Forests aren't even Mathilde's specialty. The chances of her being absolutely wrecked is far too high for me to risk the scouting option. Maybe if we had Eonir to back us up I would have felt confident about it.

We have shadow magic, the cover of the night (if we are lucky the is fog), probably the support of our god who is trying to chum up with Kislev, a canonball sword, a forcefield cloak, an auto-revive function and we are probably more suited to interpreting and acting on available info than any other scout sent into the forest. If we are not going either some poor schmucks get sent and/or the army just blunders into the forest more or less blindly.
 
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