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Vox Vitae: Warhammer AI quest
- Thread starter Neablis
- Start date
- Mature Sci-Fi
- Location
- Utrecht
[x] Plan: No longer blind
- Location
- Somewhere on Earth
I'm not really sure if the Bleeding Web would really have a reason to stay in-system. They were heading for the Webgate, remember, and a turn being five years means we'll be poking around for several of them. Maybe this system is a regular hunting grounds for the Web, but I feel like the bait plan will be more of a gamble than people think. If we wanna maximise the chances of baiting the Drukhari back in, we shouldn't immediately make it clear we're trying to hunt them down. Instead, we should just trade like there's no tomorrow, throw our money around and make it seem like we're just naive idiots who think they're gone. Immediately starting a manhunt just ensures they'd be liable to lay low.
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Angle
Release Candidate Enby
- Location
- Colorado, USA
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- They/Them/Theirs/Comrade
Yeah it seems iffy to me unless we manage to force ourselves into the webway or something. :/
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- He/Him
Eldar coming from the Webway are more likely to know if she has indeed left the system, since she'd be using the Webway to do it.
Part of the premise of the plan in the first place is that she probably thinks that she will win if she tries to attack us again using weapons that are effective against our robots instead of the splinter rifles that were emphatically not.
Ultimately though, Neablis has already talked about how we can roll to find her, including pushing into the webway gate depending on those same rolls, if the situation merits it. I even link one of the posts where he discusses how actions put towards finding her help in the plan itself.
At the end of the day? Anyone we find for this manhunt is someone we can continue to trade with, and they're likely to have information we can use as a lead - or as a reason to call the hunt off - in the first place.
Your own plan trades for exactly that kind of information after all, Dumbo. Mine just takes it one step further and asks if they want to come with for a share of the loot.
We can still trade if it doesn't work out.
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meianmaru
The Devourer of Fiction
Updated my plan, as per the new information from Neablis regarding repair bay and refits, as well as the costs for sensor equipment. Also, the confirmation that we can't just get these benefits from an updated Observatory, but require different equipment? Means that we cannot cram in both "normal" sensors and warp sensors without taking even more stuff out.
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- Somewhere on Earth
Right, that's why I dropped my plan and voted for something else, though. If we flip the focus of the trade, instead focusing on throwing our money around and showing off like no tomorrow, and then if any Corsairs express interest in getting discounts on the side we can quietly suggest this operation to them.
Like, the main problem is that from what we know of her she is a ferocious opportunist. We don't know how willing she is to stick her neck out when she can't kill two birds with one stone, and we don't even know if this is her regular stomping grounds. If we want to maximise the chances of baiting her we should bait the hook. Make her confident that we haven't really changed our plans.
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- He/Him
[X] Plan: Hunting Glasses
[X] Plan: Woman of Fire and Steel
I'm not particularly interested in putting up a bunch of conditionals about how to handle those different scenarios. We might not even make it to the gate before somebody makes contact!
And even then, the boarders came away empty-handed. We don't need to throw money around for Xylis to know we have it - the bait she went for never left our fishing line.
Since the trade deal with Ascalon was scuttled, she knows we still have what we were going to trade to them - goods that include personal void shields.
So I think the bait is quite handled already. What remains is making sure we're well prepared for a second fight and that she doesn't know it.
[X] Plan: Woman of Fire and Steel
That's an interesting idea, but is it necessary to write in with Victan, the spy, working on it? Figuring out how to best bait the hook in coordination with who we hire seems more his jam, and those details will depend a lot on how we find the eldar, or how they find us.
I'm not particularly interested in putting up a bunch of conditionals about how to handle those different scenarios. We might not even make it to the gate before somebody makes contact!
And even then, the boarders came away empty-handed. We don't need to throw money around for Xylis to know we have it - the bait she went for never left our fishing line.
Since the trade deal with Ascalon was scuttled, she knows we still have what we were going to trade to them - goods that include personal void shields.
So I think the bait is quite handled already. What remains is making sure we're well prepared for a second fight and that she doesn't know it.
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Personally I think even using one action on looking for the Dark Eldar is a shot in the dark, something that needs a good success or over to do anything. Throwing another action after that would only mean any Corsair trade happens this turn and not on the next one which is fine enough, but if we do have a trade going I'd rather have a sense of who we are talking to and what they have to offer before initiating trade.
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Trade is handled on mini turns anyways, so we'll get to know our partner OOC before deciding what deals to strike, info and hunting aside.
Or maybe not aside. Could have a mini turn where we decide whether or not to call the hunt off based on information provided up front.
Like, yeah, I spend a lot of words describing that hunt and its prep, but that'd because it's the fun adventure part! I don't actually neglect fallbacks here, I just don't want to load up on redundant conditionals.
Anyways if the pirates aren't here anymore to be found, we still get to find the Webway Gate, which is one of the things we wanted to do anyways. Its the default place to try checking, after all.
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I see your point, but I would still rather not provide points to break up the turn unless we really need to. Kind of hoping we can do the trade on the next turn and get out of here.
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- Earth
Edits made to my plan, sensors get built this turn. It's wholly in line with the spirit of my plan, I'd say.
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Do those need a different equipment slot or do they get integrated into the sensory equipment as an upgrade?
I don't think we have an answer to that.
@Neablis input please
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That's a fair preference. I'm personally just excited to jump into the adventure that Neablis has spun up.
Neablis seems sensitive to keeping the pacing up where he can though, so if we roll good the trade votes might be merged into the next full turn vote, I think? We'd be divvying up spoils and discussing followup trade if all goes well, in theory.
Middling or bad rolls might have us vote midway through because of conplications, or because we fell back to normal trade, I figure.
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[X] Plan: Hunting Glasses
I like this plan, it is very detailed.
I like this plan, it is very detailed.
Dmol8
The Undead Unhinged Lunatic of the Web
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- Belgrade,Serbia
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- He/Him/His
OK I know I'm late on this but it still need to be said:
Commorragh isn't some invulnerable fortress. Just the Salamanders, Howling Griffons and the Silver Skulls were able to raid Commorragh. The problem with attacking Commorragh is that it is a non-Euclidian labyrinthian nightmare where there is no map to be acquired because no one has even a quarter of the city mapped let alone memorazied.
Commorragh can be taken out by any of the other factions but:
the problem of other more destructive enemies and a lack of coordination means that Commorragh gets to remain the galaxy's festering crack. Also on top of that:
The Commorragh raid is what got Vect into the position of supreme power and he organized it to do so. The Empire if it focused the Drukhari could end them, but they would lose to other factions because of that focus.
Not to mention that Commorragh is the only place the Empire has found experts that know how to fix the Golden Throne at least in part which results in bargain between the Imperium and Commorragh that extends the Golden Throne's duration for at least a few more centuries back in M41 and cost billions of human lives. It's M42 now and no one is sure for how long the Dark Eldar repairs will last.
Its possible that the Ynnari have eliminated the need for the Imperium to keep Commorragh around, but now the Cicatrix Maledictum has everyone running around to put out fires so the Drukhari get off again.
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- Somewhere on Earth
Fair point on the whole but it is a little absurd that three chapters managed to destroy almost every noble family when Commoragh is stated to be a mazelike and sprawling megastructure of a metropolis. Did every single noble house live within one tiny territory?
Two words: Plot Armor.
Because Space Marines are GW's favored child.
I think it's seven words words in this case: SF writers have no sense of scale.
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- Utrecht
The space marine wank is incredible, isn't it?
An city that dwarfs the galaxy's largest hives by several orders of magnitude, spread over the galaxy... but a few hundred spess marines were able to destroy their whole government while fighting everyone the city could muster.
Their home invaded, the DEldar could only muster elf wave tactics armed with weapons ineffective against power armor.
They forgot they have disintegrators and power weapons.
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[X] Plan: No longer blind
You know the fact that we keep running out of room on the ship and we are nowhere near done on stuff we would like to have on it makes me wonder if we should do the Grand Cruiser research so we can make a battleship personal vessel when we get back to Denva.