Come on now, that is cruel and unusual... to poor Bongo.

Seriously though if we must turn something into a prison it would be part of the living quarters. I'm pretty sure the daemon prison doesn't even have an atmosphere or heat.
If they were near the world, they'd be outside the grand cruiser. I'm not worried that they can do much of anything to the Spark, I'm worried that they attack our shuttles or capture our tech priests on the ground after they've been sent to repair something.I mean even if they were near the world we still have a grand cruiser, at most they might get a few pot shots in before we can put the void shields up. If they have people on board great those are prisoners now, though admittedly we would struggle to hold them without prisoner cells. Induced comas maybe?
If they were near the world, they'd be outside the grand cruiser. I'm not worried that they can do much of anything to the Spark, I'm worried that they attack our shuttles or capture our tech priests on the ground after they've been sent to repair something.
The proposal was to "Offer your Tech-Priests' expertise and your onboard manufactories to assist in repairs".There is no reason we would put organic crew in those shuttles rather than the bots with suicide charges and maybe Vita's avatar also with suicide charges.
The proposal was to "Offer your Tech-Priests' expertise and your onboard manufactories to assist in repairs".
How would we do that without going near the tech that needs to be repaired? I don't really think they were going to ship priceless artifacts up to an untrusted ship...and not everything is portable anyway.
We can literally use our ship's factories to build structures on a planetary surface. We trivially can send tech priests and replacement parts wherever. And...in what world do Sororitas load their power armor into some weirdo's shuttle to be flown away? That would never have been on the table.They bring the their broken shitty tech onto our ship for us to fix. It's not like our tech priests have manufacturing capacity strapped to themselves, they have to bring it on board or we literally cannot fix it because all the BP comes from the ship.
Ooh I completely forgot to factor in the possibility of there being a stranded Inquisitor / 'aspiring' iinquisitor who might try and capture our tech-priests, very unlikely, but it could happen.
We can literally use our ship's factories to build structures on a planetary surface. We trivially can send tech priests and replacement parts wherever. And...in what world do Sororitas load their power armor into some weirdo's shuttle to be flown away? That would never have been on the table.
I really dislike that you're framing conducting any and all forms of mission off the ship as 'careless'.I really dislike the implication that Vita is more careless with the lives of her crew than the murder nuns are with their armor. I do not think she is that kind of person.
I really dislike that you're framing conducting any and all forms of mission off the ship as 'careless'.
Whereas sending priceless artifacts aboard a ship that you literally cannot do anything to stop from just flying away with them wouldn't be so much 'careless' as 'ludicrously credulous'.
I don't agree with your paranoia, but I also don't see any way the proposal voted on could be construed as keeping our techpriests away from all actual imperials.These people know we are AI, letting them set foot on a potentially hostile planet would be an act of callous stupidity of such scale that Vita could call herself an honorary Imperial. The moment they are taken prisoner we can expect them to be tortured into giving up everything they know because that is what the Imperium of Man and the Ministorum in particular does to prisoners.
I don't agree with your paranoia, but I also don't see any way the proposal voted on could be construed as keeping our techpriests away from all actual imperials.
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Edit: Alectai I think you need to lay off the mantras for a few turns. Holy shit.
The paranoia of treating people you're purportedly engaging in a fairly intimate trade with as simultaneously too dangerous to be on the same planet with.Which paranoia is that, that the Sisters of Battle torture prisoners for information and confessions of heresy. That is not paranoia, that is just standard operating procedure, that is what canon looks like. The only reason they would not torture prisoners would be if they wanted to blackmail us with their safety and they would have to think we valued their lives for that which would be unusually charitable for the Sisters vis a vis an enemy.
The paranoia of treating people you're purportedly engaging in a fairly intimate trade with as simultaneously too dangerous to be on the same planet with.
Committing to that would make many diplomatic actions, including in my opinion the one that just won the vote, simply impossible to implement.
Not everything is possible without risk.
(Also, I don't care what information they might get out of our tech priests, I care about, in the event that such a thing happened, recovering our people. So also the paranoia of information control.)
I'd be surprised if Dark Eldar raiders blundered into range of our guns. Spark is no pursuit ship. But I certainly wouldn't turn down picking over their remains if it happened.Ouch always knew talking to people would backfire[JK]
Anyway so probably Eldar dickery trying to fuck with and slow us down might be Dark Eldar who're expecting slaves to turn into furniture desperately raiding because the corsairs didn't have any to trade them so we might have a combat action happening which might work In our favour.
I'd be surprised if Dark Eldar raiders blundered into range of our guns. Spark is no pursuit ship. But I certainly wouldn't turn down picking over their remains if it happened.
Oh, it's really easy to implement actually!The paranoia of treating people you're purportedly engaging in a fairly intimate trade with as simultaneously too dangerous to be on the same planet with.
Committing to that would make many diplomatic actions, including in my opinion the one that just won the vote, simply impossible to implement.
We don't have bots that can pass for tech priests, though, do we? Doing repairs with unattended 'servitors' only? Who would buy that?Oh, it's really easy to implement actually!
Because we have robots that can pass for humans in armor, and OMC. And even if this is too long distance for OMC to pilot the bots, Vita can just pretend to be the tech priests piloting them.
DragonParadox is right. Where interactions with the potential to turn hostile are concerned, Vita is obsessively paranoid and would be extremely unlikely to send her staff down to the surface of a polity that regularly uses torture if she has any other option, which she does.
And, well, @Neablis interprets our votes in a benevolent light, so I see no reason why he wouldn't continue to give Vita that characterization. Using expendable bots for this stuff is our MO.
Don't have to! The mechanicus has automata of their own, they're just rare. If pressed we say that they're from the same STC fragment we got the ship design from, we're already posing as people with absurd production capabilities as it is.We don't have bots that can pass for tech priests, though, do we? Doing repairs with unattended 'servitors' only? Who would buy that?