Vox Vitae: Warhammer AI quest

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[X] Plan: Nova cannons go boom. Boonhunting edition. Warp comms and Navibean alternative.
[X][Gwendolyn] Strategist
 
LightLan said:
We can't actually do this, because it would exceed our CP. Whoopsie!
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What if we got this?
Neablis said:
Ground Manufactory Efficiency Improvements (50 RP) You dramatically improved the efficiency of your void manufacturing by stripping out the dumb stuff that was required by stellar federation bureaucracy. There's probably some stuff like that in your ground manufactories too. (Reduces the CP cost but not BP cost of your ground manufactories. Unlocks follow-on tech to build ground manufactories in more challenging conditions such as extreme temp/pressure planetoids).
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I think it was mostly dismissed when we first unlocked it because we were so BP blocked rather than CP blocked, but if we're bumping up against command point limits again, it might be a good pick even aside from how it makes OMC stretch farther for Denva.
 
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[X] Plan: Nova cannons go boom. Boonhunting edition. Warp comms and Navibean alternative.
[X][Gwendolyn] Seer
 
Prime 2.0 said:
I think it was mostly dismissed when we first unlocked it because we were so BP blocked rather than CP blocked, but if we're bumping up against command point limits again, it might be a good pick even aside from how it makes OMC stretch farther for Denva.
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No idea how much CP that saves us, because it does not say *shrugs*

Might or might not be worth it. No way to tell.
Still it is cheap.
 
LightLan said:
No idea how much CP that saves us, because it does not say *shrugs*

Might or might not be worth it. No way to tell.
Still it is cheap.
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Given the huge proportion of our CP which would be manufactures even a modest CP reduction on a per/unit level would have a huge impact. Or we could go Intelligence Codding and hope we can fish higher level enhancements from behind that, but we do not know how many techs that will take or what the RP cost will be. The production improvements seem like the best bet in the short term.
 
[X] Plan: Nova cannons go boom. Boonhunting edition. Warp comms and Navibean alternative.
[X][Gwendolyn] Seer
 
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    • Scheduled vote count started by Neablis on Mar 12, 2025 at 3:46 AM, finished with 223 posts and 76 votes.
    • [X][Gwendolyn] Strategist
      [X] Plan: Nova cannons go boom. Boonhunting edition. Warp comms and Navibean alternative.
      -[X] Idea: Boons! Hunt boons. Earn three boons with this plan. Also get Nova Cannons, warp comm prep and navigator prep.
      -[X] Diplomacy: Ensure that the Vellkar & the Stellar Ascendency come to a profitable arrangement for both of them. Stretch Goal: get basing rights for yourself on Denva Primus. Put all the tech you gave the Stellar Ascendency on the table as long as there aren't any obvious red flags coming up during the negotiation (e.g. chaos involvement with the Vellkar)
      -[X] Diplomacy: Build the Stellar Ascendency a military academy with Victan's result from last turn
      -[X] Research x2 (400 + 85 (Anexa) + 60 (Anexa staff) = 545 RP)
      --[X] Improved Large-scale Machine spirits (100 RP)
      ---[X] Annexa assist
      --[X] Improved Organic-Machine control (75 RP)
      --[X] Nova Cannon! (100 RP)
      --[X] Alternative Shielding Meanings (150 RP)
      --[X] Does in vitro have something to do with wine? (100 RP)
      --[X] Intelligence Coding (20 RP Overflow)
      -[X][Free] Turn over Improved Large-scale Machine spirits and Improved Organic-Machine control to the Stellar Ascendency
      -[X][Boon] Expanded Technology Focus/sharing (write-in two tech trees: Ship Design, Biology)
      -[X][Free] Construction (1,500 VBP (Voidforge Miners) = 1500 BP / 1000[666.6 refit BP] BP Repair Bay / 500 Lift Capacity):
      --[X] Refit the Spark of the Ancients [122.5 Cramming free after partial refit => one additional slot]:
      ---[X] Add to Non-Combat Equipment (reduce left cramming from 70 BP to 2.5 BP:
      ----[X] Troop compartment (50*1.5=75 BP, 45 Cramming)
      ----[X] Medical bay (25*1.5=37.5 BP, 22.5 Cramming)
      ---[X] Replace Troop compartment modular slot and Medical facility modular slot with 2x Juvenat Production Facility (750 BP)
      ---[X] High Maneuverability Thrusters, refit to only take 1080 BP cramming space (1200 BP)
      --[X] 104 BP left, give to Victan to help with Diplomacy (product samples?)
      -[X] Anexa active Action: Research - assists a research action you take, granting +5xLevel RP to the action. Will level on a successful roll, scaled by the importance of the tech.
      -[X] Victan: active action: Diplomat-Spy: Assist with the Vellkar diplomacy
      -[X] Cia Passive Psyker improvement
      -[X] Gwendolyn Passive learning action
      [X][Gwendolyn] Seer
      [X] Plan: Nova cannons go boom. Boonhunting edition.
      -[X] Idea: Boons! Hunt boons. Earn three boons with this plan. Also get Nova Cannons, Intelligence Coding and Faith is my Shield.
      -[X] Diplomacy: Ensure that the Vellkar & the Stellar Ascendency come to a profitable arrangement for both of them. Stretch Goal: get basing rights for yourself on Denva Primus. Put all the tech you gave the Stellar Ascendency on the table as long as there aren't any obvious red flags coming up during the negotiation (e.g. chaos involvement with the Vellkar)
      -[X] Diplomacy: Build the Stellar Ascendency a military academy with Victan's result from last turn
      -[X] Research x2 (400 + 85 (Anexa) + 60 (Anexa staff) = 545 RP)
      --[X] Improved Large-scale Machine spirits (100 RP)
      --[X] Improved Organic-Machine control (75 RP)
      --[X] Nova Cannon! (100 RP)
      --[X] Intelligence Coding (210 RP)
      ---[X] Annexa attempt to gain AI specialty
      --[X] Faith is my Shield? (60 RP)
      -[X][Free] Turn over Improved Large-scale Machine spirits and Improved Organic-Machine control to the Stellar Ascendency
      -[X][Boon] Expanded Technology Focus/sharing (write-in two tech trees: Ship Design, Biology)
      -[X][Free] Construction (1,500 VBP (Voidforge Miners) = 1500 BP / 1000[666.6 refit BP] BP Repair Bay / 500 Lift Capacity):
      --[X] Refit the Spark of the Ancients [122.5 Cramming free after partial refit => one additional slot]:
      ---[X] Add to Non-Combat Equipment (reduce left cramming from 70 BP to 2.5 BP:
      ----[X] Troop compartment (50*1.5=75 BP, 45 Cramming)
      ----[X] Medical bay (25*1.5=37.5 BP, 22.5 Cramming)
      ---[X] Replace Troop compartment modular slot and Medical facility modular slot with 2x Juvenat Production Facility (750 BP)
      ---[X] High Maneuverability Thrusters, refit to only take 1080 BP cramming space (1200 BP)
      --[X] 104 BP left, give to Victan to help with Diplomacy (product samples?)
      -[X] Anexa active Action: Research - assists a research action you take, granting +5xLevel RP to the action. Will level on a successful roll, scaled by the importance of the tech.
      -[X] Victan: active action: Diplomat-Spy: Assist with the Vellkar diplomacy
      -[X] Cia Passive Psyker improvement
      -[X] Gwendolyn Passive learning action
      [X] Plan: And the Third Time it Stood!
      -[X] Diplomacy:
      --[X] Act as a mediator for the Velkar and Denva discussions, we want both sides to walk away with a deal they're happy with, but the intent is that it's a learning experience more than anything else, keep your eyes open for any weirdness left over by Chaos or any other red flags, but otherwise just help smooth things along.
      ---[X] Victan Assists
      -[X] Diplomacy x2:
      --[X] Denva wants an education, Denva will get an education, go through your records, build a facility with all the amenities and requirements you think you'll need for skilled officers, researchers, and everything adjacent to the topic, and get to work helping them get up to speed, by the time you head out, they should be able to take care of themselves!
      -[X] Construction (8,820 + 1,500 (Voidforge) + 1,000 (Repair Bay) = 11,320 BP)
      --[X] Spark Refits:
      ---[X] Add to Non-Combat Equipment (reduce left cramming from 70 BP to 2.5 BP:
      ----[X] Troop compartment (501.5=75 BP, 45 Cramming)----[X] Medical bay (251.5=37.5 BP, 22.5 Cramming)
      ---[X] Replace Troop compartment modular slot and Medical facility modular slot with 2x Juvenat Production Facility (750 BP)
      ---[X] Expand psy-shielding on the Secondary Vault (50 HP -> 100 HP = 250 BP), Bongo gets moved here as part of the refit, and the Vault gets renamed as the Secure Storage Vault
      --[X] Repurpose the Oubliette and its Psychic Shields as a Basic Psychic Experimentation Lab using the remaining shields as its defense line. Not efficient, but it'll do. (-300 BP)
      -[X] Remaining BP spent on the Denva Void Academy, scaled for 50,000 students, and given the amenities and facilities needed to maximize productivity (I'll do the maths on this later, but it's a Big Number)
      -[X] Research (200 + 135 Anexa and Cogitare Support)
      --[X] Blueprint: Advanced Technological Research Lab (-20 Cogitare, 25 RP)
      --[X] Blueprint: Uplift Academy (-20 Cogitare, 25 RP)
      --[X] Does in vitro have something to do with wine? (100 RP)
      --[X] Nova Cannon! (100 RP)
      --[X] Faith is my shield? (60 RP, Anexa on this)
      --[X] Intelligence Coding (+25 RP, now at 215/400)
      [X] Plan: Academy City Establishment
      -[X] Research x2 (400 + 85 (Anexa) + 56 (Anexa staff) = 741 RP)
      --[X] Collaborative Computational R&D (250 RP)
      ---[X] Anexa active Action: Research - assists a research action you take, granting +5xLevel RP to the action. Will level on a successful roll, scaled by the importance of the tech.
      --[X] Alternative Shielding Meanings (150 RP)
      --[X] Nova Cannon! (100 RP)
      --[X] Design A New Blueprint - Orbital Campus (See Notes) (50 RP Discounted -> 25 RP)
      ---[X] Assign 20 Cogitare to assist / discount the design process.
      --[X] Intelligence Coding (+20 RP)
      -[X] Construction (8,820 + 1,500 (Voidforge) + 1,000 (Repair Bay) = 11,320 BP)
      --[X] Build an Orbital Campus sized for 50,000 students around Aetherion (1,750 BP * 5 = 8,750 BP)
      --[X] Build 5 Machine Spirit Orbital Manufactories around Aetherion. (300 BP * 5 = 1,500 BP)
      --[X] Build 14 Personal Void Shields (5 * 14 = 70 BP)
      --[X] Spark Refits:
      ---[X] Add to Non-Combat Equipment (reduce left cramming from 70 BP to 2.5 BP:
      ----[X] Troop compartment (50*1.5=75 BP, 45 Cramming)
      ----[X] Medical bay (25*1.5=37.5 BP, 22.5 Cramming)
      ---[X] Replace Troop compartment modular slot and Medical facility modular slot with 2x Juvenat Production Facility (750 BP)
      ---[X] Expand psy-shielding on the Secondary Vault (50 HP -> 100 HP = 250 BP)
      -[X] Diplomacy: We're gonna build a school!
      --[X] Declare our newly constructed Orbital Campus as The Anexa School for Championing Excellence and Nurturing Dreams (ASCEND).
      --[X] Pick the likeliest of our onboard Cogitare to run it.
      --[X] Recruit Cogitare from all over the system and across all the old borders as the initial wave of staff.
      --[X] Even more Cogitare from around the system can recommend students and hand out scholarships.
      --[X] The vellkar can have some scholarships as well, to help Denva Primus & Secundus learn about each other.
      --[X] Ask the vellkar if they want to send a few teachers? We could have a vellkar history class.
      --[X] Open up our databases for how everything should be organized and to provide course material.
      --[X] Initial courses will draw heavily from our databases for material on Army and Navy Tactics and Strategy, OMC Operation, Medicine, and all the sciences.
      --[X] Donate 5 Machine Spirit Orbital Manufactories around Aetherion to the school, to be operated by the Cogitare, as an independent source of ongoing funding and expansion.
      --[X] Victan: Support the diplomacy action by networking and making sure that even if ASCEND doesn't start out as both an integrated training program for the Stellar Ascendancy Military and R&D Branches, it will be in a position to become such with another action or two.
      -[X] Cia Passive Psyker improvement
      -[X] Gwendolyn Passive learning action
      [X] Plan Nova Cannon Goes POP!
      -[X] [Repair Bay]
      --[X] cramming refits of the Spark see construction
      -[X] Construction (630 BP base + 8190 BP Orbital Manufactories + 1500 BP Voidforge Miners = 10320 BP)
      --[X] convert 3 destroyer hulls to Candle mk 2 3700 BP
      ---[X] turn over all completed candles to Denva Secundus
      --[X] build an orbital High-Energy Physics Research Lab in a safe orbit (500 BP)
      --[X] 5600 BP (4600 BP + 1000 BP from repair bay) cramming refits of the Spark
      --[X] build a Basic Psychic Experimentation Lab in the oubliette (300 BP)
      --[X] Replace Technological Research Lab with Advanced Technological Research Lab (750 BP)
      --[X] 470 BP discretionary fund for Victan
      -[X] Research X 2 (400 RP base + 85 Anexa RP + 60 Anexa staff – 4 (20 Anexa staff doing design work) = 541 RP)
      --[X] Collaberative Computational R&D (250 RP)
      --[X] Nova Cannon! (100 RP)
      --[X] Improved Large-scale Machine spirits (100 RP)
      --[X] 25 RP (50 RP without Anexa's staff) to design Advanced Technological Research Lab (500 BP, 100 CP)
      --[X] design Candle Mk 2 Destroyer (25 RP)
      ---[X] Chassis: Base (450 BP) Engines: (8 gravities) for (150 BP). Shields: (medium) for (100) Armor: (medium) for (100) total: 350 BP
      ---[X] Hull Equipment: Machine Spirit (50 BP) Warp Drive (50 BP), Void Abacus (50 BP), Psychic Shielding (250 BP = 50 HP) total: 400 BP
      ---[X] Weapons: 1 x Light Macrocannons (100 bp), 1 x Medium Lances (200 BP), 1 x Point Defense (50 BP) total 350 BP (315 with camming modifier)
      ---[X] Equipment: High-maneuverability thrusters (50BP), Medium Boarding preparations (50 BP), Cargo Bay (15 BP), Repair Bay (40 BP) total 150 BP (135 with camming modifier)
      ---[X] total design build point cost: 1700 BP
      --[X] Faith is my shield? (10 RP)
      --[X] Improved Organic-Machine control (20 RP)
      --[X] Intelligence Coding (11 RP)
      -[X] Diplomacy: Collaborate with the Stellar Ascendency and Vellkar to create a mutually beneficial alliance for all three parties
      --[X] obtain basing and resource extraction rights in the Denva system
      --[X] check to see if the Vellkar need help with construction/uplift
      --[X] ensure that both sides have all of our current technologies bar demonology
      --[X] actively interact with the Vellkar in order to learn more about them as a species, a culture, and as individuals.
      -[X] Anexa active action: Research
      --[X] Collaberative Computational R&D
      -[X] Victan active action: assist with Stellar Ascendency/Vellkar alliance
      -[X] Cia Passive Psyker improvement
      -[X] Gwendolyn Passive learning action
      -[X] [free] institute movie night you have literally thousands of years of films, tv shows, anime, etc so taking a night or two every so often to watch some of it with your crew should make for a good bonding experience.
      [X] Plan: Academic Diplomacy
      -[X] Research (200 + 85 + 56 RP)
      --[X] Collaborative Computational R&D - 250
      ---[X] Anexa
      --[X] Design Orbital Complex - 25 (with 20 Cogitare)
      --[X] Nova Cannons: 66 RP + overflow
      -[X][Free] Construction (1,500 VBP (Voidforge Miners) = 1500 BP / 1000[666.6 refit BP] BP Repair Bay / 500 Lift Capacity):
      --[X] Refit the Spark of the Ancients [122.5 Cramming free after partial refit => one additional slot]:
      ---[X] Add to Non-Combat Equipment (reduce left cramming from 70 BP to 2.5 BP:
      ----[X] Troop compartment (50*1.5=75 BP, 45 Cramming)
      ----[X] Medical bay (25*1.5=37.5 BP, 22.5 Cramming)
      ---[X] Replace Troop compartment modular slot and Medical facility modular slot with 2x Juvenat Production Facility (750 BP)
      ---[X] High Maneuverability Thrusters, refit to only take 1080 BP cramming space (1200 BP)
      --[X] 104 BP left, give to Victan to help with Diplomacy (product samples?)
      -[X] Construction (8 820 + 25 000 [Boon]= 33,820 BP )
      --[X] Build three stations orbiting between Primus and Secundus; each to be named after our original crew members.
      --[X] One of them is to be a military academy (10 000 BP)
      --[X] Another is to be an uplifting campus (10 000 BP)
      --[X] The last is to be a meeting/organizational seat for Primus and Secundus (10 000 BP)
      --[X] Excedent for commuting shuttles, problem-solving, cost overruns, and so on: 3 820.
      -[X] Diplomacy: get buy-in from Primus and Secundus for the stations, so they can help with design, building, and staffing
      -[X] Diplomacy: Ensure that the Vellkar & the Stellar Ascendency come to a profitable arrangement for both of them. Stretch Goal: get basing rights for yourself on Denva Primus. Put all the tech you gave the Stellar Ascendency on the table as long as there aren't any obvious red flags coming up during the negotiation (e.g. chaos involvement with the Vellkar)
      --[X] Victan
      -[X] Cia: Passive Training
      -[X] Gwen: passive training
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    I need rolls! As ever, d100s, a separate person rolling for each!
    1st: Vellkar Diplomacy roll, +28 (Victan)
    2nd: Military academy establishment roll, +10
    3rd: Improved Large-scale Machine spirits, +30 (Anexa)
    4th: Improved Organic-Machine control, +20
    5th: Nova cannon!, +20
    6th: Alternative Shielding Meanings, +20
    7th: Does in vitro have something to do with wine?, +20
    8th: Cia Passive level-up roll
    9th: Gwen passive level-up roll.
    10th: Misc.
    11th: Misc.

    And then I'll roll a few dice. Three for Denva, first is diplomacy, second is civilian/technology development, third is military development. Then a fourth *mystery* roll.
    Neablis threw 4 100-faced dice. Reason: Non-Vita rolls Total: 91
    7 7 31 31 51 51 2 2
     
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