[X] [Lockout] Start yelling until someone lets you in
[X] [Seminar] Or I can transform. I'm much faster than the bus can be, so I will definitely get to class on time that way.


serious question. I'd want to reveal the sailor moon secret to our parents at some point, as it would give us much more freedom to act (and because I always disliked the "useless adults/keep them in the dark" trope).

When do you think it would be a good moment?

I think we'd want to at least wait until we meet Rei, as we'd then have some support we could point at and say "Look, people will die if I don't do this. And by People, I mean everyone. Us included. And I have friends that are helping me".

Full Inner Senshi team could also be a good moment, though it's a bit too late for my tastes.

...Damn, it will be a very interesting conversation if/when it happens.
 
I do find locking Usagi out of the house to be a weird punishment for coming home late. It's like "You didn't come home on time so I am locking you out of the house that you should be in right now." If that happened, I would just stay out longer or go somewhere else instead of wailing to be let in. It just doesn't feel like it teaches the right lesson. I can see a parent doing that though if they are the "tough love" kinda person.
 
serious question. I'd want to reveal the sailor moon secret to our parents at some point, as it would give us much more freedom to act (and because I always disliked the "useless adults/keep them in the dark" trope).

When do you think it would be a good moment?

I think we'd want to at least wait until we meet Rei, as we'd then have some support we could point at and say "Look, people will die if I don't do this. And by People, I mean everyone. Us included. And I have friends that are helping me".

Full Inner Senshi team could also be a good moment, though it's a bit too late for my tastes.

...Damn, it will be a very interesting conversation if/when it happens.

The secret identity dilemma is a tricky subject, especially for school aged defenders of hope, goodness and celestial bodies. The number of times a plucky protagonist has been imperilled due to being forced to choose between maintaining their masquerade or risking it to save lives is far too often. The more people Usagi has to work around, the more divided her double life becomes, the harder it'll be to keep sailor moon secret.

The motivation for telling her parents is thus obvious, not having to work around them and potentially having their support as 'trusted adults' who can help arrange things like emergency absences via sick notes or such if Usagi has to skip school to save lives and fight evil.

There are downsides though, depending on how Usagi's parents react. While thankfully unlike some protagonists we can prove the existence magic/powers quite easily, proving the 'only I and 9+ other people can save the world' part is significantly harder, and might raise some questions like 'why shouldn't we call the government?' or even lead to Dadsagi/Momsagi doing it behind our back. They'd only have Usagi's word + Luna and however many Sailor Senshi we manage to scrounge up before hand, and that's assuming they all agree that we should tell them.

Luna has previously protested letting people who can't defend themselves against magic in on the secret due to how they might get involved/targeted and she does have a point. If telling our parents motivates them to get involved they might end up throwing themselves into the line of fire in a misguided attempt to protect their daughter, or lead to them leaving/following clues on magic straight into a Youma trap. The other Senshi might have similar reservation or one's that I haven't thought about yet.

On the other hand, the masquerade is certainly a temporary affair. This isn't Harry Potter, where the status queue dived between a 'magical' and 'mundane' world is narratively sacrosanct. If we don't break the 'masquerade' first the dark kingdom eventually will as their life drain operations begin to ramp up. So we need to recognise that the 'end goal' involves having basically the entire world in the know and firmly set against the dark kingdom...

So back to Usagi's parents, when should they find out, and how?

Well, it needs to be after we convince Luna and any of the other Senshi on board that its a good idea/the right thing to do. It should preferably be after Usagi's had some time to come into her powers, and grow a bit more as both a protector and a person. Perhaps once Dadsagi/momsagi notice how much Usagi is changing/growing in such a (relatively) short amount of time, we can unvaile the whole, 'magical past life and fighting the forces of evil' as an explanation for Usagi's sudden maturation of character (Assuming this happens after Usagi's Overly emotional trait has been weakened or even nullified completely)

It should also be, again preferably, before the entire world is read in on the whole, dark kingdom vs moon kingdom situation, at which point revealing it to our parents would be... awkward, to say the least. This leaves a large band of time for the identity reveal to be placed in, thought it is worth noting that the longer we wait the higher chance something unexpected will happen which could upset any reveal plan we make, so we should probably tend towards earlier rather than later on this scale.

As for how to reveal... get Luna to assist as we proceed to prove that magic is real, then provide some proof that A) The enemy we fight is very real B) That we are specially equipped to deal with them in a way most people aren't, and C) That getting more people involved willy-nilly will cause much more damage than good.

Those are just some ideas though, and honestly considering Usagi's current relationship with her parents (which sadly seems to reek of 'disappointment child', though that might just be me reading too deep into it), I don't think this reveal is going to be happening any time soon.

Anyone else have any ideas/thoughts on this?
 
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The secret identity dilemma is a tricky subject, especially for school aged defenders of hope, goodness and celestial bodies. The number of times a plucky protagonist has been imperilled due to being forced to choose between maintaining their masquerade or risking it to save lives is far too often. The more people Usagi has to work around, the more divided her double life becomes, the harder it'll be to keep sailor moon secret.

The motivation for telling her parents is thus obvious, not having to work around them and potentially having their support as 'trusted adults' who can help arrange things like emergency absences via sick notes or such if Usagi has to skip school to save lives and fight evil.

There are downsides though, depending on how Usagi's parents react. While thankfully unlike some protagonists we can prove the existence magic/powers quite easily, proving the 'only I and 9+ other people can save the world' part is significantly harder, and might raise some questions like 'why shouldn't we call the government?' or even lead to Dadsagi/Momsagi doing it behind our back. They'd only have Usagi's word + Luna and however many Sailor Senshi we manage to scrounge up before hand, and that's assuming they all agree that we should tell them.

Luna has previously protested letting people who can't defend themselves against magic in on the secret due to how they might get involved/targeted and she does have a point. If telling our parents motivates them to get involved they might end up throwing themselves into the line of fire in a misguided attempt to protect their daughter, or lead to them leaving/following clues on magic straight into a Youma trap. The other Senshi might have similar reservation or one's that I haven't thought about yet.

On the other hand, the masquerade is certainly a temporary affair. This isn't Harry Potter, where the status queue dived between a 'magical' and 'mundane' world is narratively sacrosanct. If we don't break the 'masquerade' first the dark kingdom eventually will as their life drain operations begin to ramp up. So we need to recognise that the 'end goal' involves having basically the entire world in the know and firmly set against the dark kingdom...

So back to Usagi's parents, when should they find out, and how?

Well, it needs to be after we convince Luna and any of the other Senshi on board that its a good idea/the right thing to do. It should preferably be after Usagi's had some time to come into her powers, and grow a bit more as both a protector and a person. Perhaps once Dadsagi/momsagi notice how much Usagi is changing/growing in such a (relatively) short amount of time, we can unvaile the whole, 'magical past life and fighting the forces of evil' as an explanation for Usagi's sudden maturation of character (Assuming this happens after Usagi's Overly emotional trait has been weakened or even nullified completely)

It should also be, again preferably, be before the entire world is read in on the whole, dark kingdom vs moon kingdom situation, at which point revealing it to our parents would be... awkward, to say the least. A large band of time for the identity reveal to be placed in, thought it is worth noting that the longer we wait the higher chance something unexpected will happen which could upset any reveal plan we make, so we should probably tend towards earlier rather than later on this scale.

As for how to reveal... get Luna to assist as we proceed to prove that magic is real, then provide some proof that A) The enemy we fight is very real B) That we are specially equipped to deal with them in a way most people aren't, and C) That getting more people involved willy-nilly will cause much more damage than good.

Those are just some ideas though, and honestly considering Usagi's current relationship with her parents (which sadly seems to reek of 'disappointment child', though that might just be me reading too deep into it), I don't think this reveal is going to be happening any time soon.

Anyone else have any ideas/thoughts on this?
Something to keep in mind is that three people can keep a secret if two of them are dead. Large conspiracies are just... not workable. Now, to some extent we have to read people in; the Senshi obviously need to know, and eg getting Naru onside was well worth the exposure risk. But we have to keep in mind that if we keep spreading this knowledge, it's eventually going to get out. Thus, telling someone about this isn't a costless endeavor, and there are a few things to keep in mind and consider before reading anyone in.

1. How likely are they to leak? Can they keep secrets under pressure? Can they avoid casual exposure for long periods of time without slipping up? Will they want to?
2. How useful are they? To put it another way, getting friendly with a the head of a major news organization could be very helpful to quash stories of us early on and improve our PR once revealed, whereas some office worker we meet once isn't likely to be especially useful.
3. How likely are they to figure it out? If we expect someone will definitely catch on, it's better to tell them as a show of trust before they piece things together themselves.

For #1, its pretty low. Nobody in Usagi's family is a master of secrecy, and the only real redeeming factor is that, given that their daughter is in danger, they have incentive to do so. For #2, moderately useful. It would save Usagi from having to make excuses and free her time up to act as a sailor senshi more, but that's about the extent of what they can realistically contribute. They might be able to improve financial resources relative to Usagi, if we're running into issues with funding of senshi activiites, but they're hardly particularly good there unless compared to middle schoolers. For #3, the answer is moderately. They never figured out in canon, so we obviously can keep it a secret there, but they do have an above average chance simply because we interact with them so much more that there's more opportunities for us to slip up or be unable to disguise eg an injury.
 
It is worth pointing out that Usagi's Father, Kenji, is an editor for a Magazine of some kind. So he is in a position of some importance for his company.

That might be something worth remembering when you are trying to calculate risk/reward
 
So he can actually help to lower attention before it becomes too big to hide.
 
Anyone else have any ideas/thoughts on this?
if we managed to remove all of Usagi's negative traits, that could likely be a good moment as long as we had the support of Luna and a few other Senshi.

We certainly need to make it clear that the government would likely not be of much help, at least not if approached conventionally. If we want to involve them, we should do it by contacting them ourselves as Sailor Moon (or waiting until THEY try and contact US I suppose).

Then again involving the government would likely lead to the Dark Kingdom escalating and giving up every pretense of stealth and restraint, so that's an argument we can use to convince our parents.

And if they're going to say we shouldn't get involved... newsflash, the first attack was at Naru's parents' jewelry. The second was at a fortuneteller our CLASSMATES went to. The third was the cram school THEY sent us to!

Call it chance or destiny, we're involved, and try to deny that would be delusional. Our superpowers and superpowered friends offer us better protection than any other person on the planet.

Also apparently once we win we get to be the direct guard of a princess/ the solar system's princess, so at least we WILL get payed for it, we just need to wait a bit. And apparently our future rule come with free agelessness for all too!

For #2, moderately useful. It would save Usagi from having to make excuses and free her time up to act as a sailor senshi more, but that's about the extent of what they can realistically contribute. They might be able to improve financial resources relative to Usagi, if we're running into issues with funding of senshi activiites, but they're hardly particularly good there unless compared to middle schoolers
admittedly the were able to spend quite a few bucks on this cram school, so it's a pretty big jump in money available.

What, you can pay more than 1k for my studies, but not to help me save the world (and keep me safer doing it)?

personally my main worry is not our parents, but our brother. HE should not find out. he's a child, and children are terrible at keeping secrets (or understanding which secrets are worth keeping). All it would take is a "what, your sister is a doctor? Big deal, MINE IS SAILOR MOON!" moment.

It is worth pointing out that Usagi's Father, Kenji, is an editor for a Magazine of some kind. So he is in a position of some importance for his company.

That might be something worth remembering when you are trying to calculate risk/reward
So he can actually help to lower attention before it becomes too big to hide.
and even if he can't actually lower it, he can give us some warning when things get too bad.

We could also, at some point, maybe use it as an intermediary to, say, offer a private interview with the senshi. Let our side of things be heard once conspiracy theories start coming out.
 
personally my main worry is not our parents, but our brother. HE should not find out. he's a child, and children are terrible at keeping secrets (or understanding which secrets are worth keeping). All it would take is a "what, your sister is a doctor? Big deal, MINE IS SAILOR MOON!" moment.
I don't like the feeling of excluding a member of her family, he should know too at some point. I'm sure there's a way we can impress secrecy upon him.

Plus, who would truly believe a child saying their big sister is a superhero?
 
Hmm... The vote is technically open for another 3 hours 10 minutes-ish, but I go into work in about 10 min-ish, and the Leading Votes have a very hard and very solid lead.

We're talking 28 - 7 and 26 - 9

So I'm going to just close the vote now so that the rolls can get done hopefully before I go into work, giving me my shift to plan out the update.
Adhoc vote count started by Lunaryon on Oct 30, 2020 at 2:48 PM, finished with 53 posts and 35 votes.


So... I need a:
d10 +14 DC: 18 for Parents
d10 +12 for Luna Search
a d6 for Notice

And then Nd100 where N = the results of the Notice Roll
Scheduled vote count started by Lunaryon on Oct 29, 2020 at 6:01 PM, finished with 53 posts and 35 votes.
 
Hmm... The vote is technically open for another 3 hours 10 minutes-ish, but I go into work in about 10 min-ish, and the Leading Votes have a very hard and very solid lead.

We're talking 28 - 7 and 26 - 9

So I'm going to just close the vote now so that the rolls can get done hopefully before I go into work, giving me my shift to plan out the update.
Adhoc vote count started by Lunaryon on Oct 30, 2020 at 2:48 PM, finished with 53 posts and 35 votes.


So... I need a:
d10 +14 DC: 18 for Parents
d10 +12 for Luna Search
a d6 for Notice

And then Nd100 where N = the results of the Notice Roll
Scheduled vote count started by Lunaryon on Oct 29, 2020 at 6:01 PM, finished with 53 posts and 35 votes.
I'll take the d10+14 for parents.

E: That's a pass.
QTesseract threw 1 10-faced dice. Reason: 1d10+14 for Parents Total: 9
9 9
 
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Well, looks like we're about to jump 2 levels of notice, wonder what effects that'll have.

Could have been worse. We could of gotten two high dice results instead of one mid-low and one high...

Could of had to roll for 6d100 instead 2, that probably would have blown secrecy to nothingness.

EDIT: At least, I think we're about jump two levels of notice. Can't find where the notice tracker is, I think it might of been on the Silver Millennium page before items were added. I think notice started at 69, before getting dropped -5 by the House of Fortune Resolution, assuming my memory isn't failing me. So add the new rolls and the results is...

(94 + 37) + 64 = 195

Huh, I stand correct. Just 1 level then.
 
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Well, looks like we're about to jump 2 levels of notice, wonder what effects that'll have.

Could have been worse. We could of gotten two high dice results instead of one mid-low and one high...

Could of had to roll for 6d100 instead 2, that probably would have blown secrecy to nothingness.

I think the first roll was how many people saw her.

The second was their personal rolls for noticing her.
So really I think it's one person got a really good look possibly a picture, the other little more than a glimpse.

I doubt this will make Notice go up by 2 levels.
Probably just 1 at most.

Edit: Anyway
@Lunaryon

Parents, DC 18
9 + 14 = 23 [PASS]

Luna Search, DC ??
7 + 12 = 19 [??]

Notice Rolls
[2]
(94, 37)
 
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I'd advocate for waiting to inform the parents until Usagi's grades have improved to prevent concerns on this distracting her from her future and Naru learning enough magic to give them the ability for at least minor self defense (even if that's limited to recognizing Dark Kingdom plots).
 
Gah, I swear every time I fix something on those sheets something else breaks.

You should have been at 64 attention.

Thus:
94x1= 94
37x0.5= 18.5

94+18.5= 112

So up a level of attention and you'll be at 76/120 Attention I
 
@Lunaryon
May I ask why the second roll is x0.5, and not the first roll?
It is part of how I am starting to overhaul the Attention Mechanic, in part because of this roll itself.

I feel that how the rolls are set up right now doesn't give you enough control over the roll.

I'm going to figure out something for the rolls from here on out, but part of that is that there is going to be a sort of tier effect, where the lower a roll is, it will have even less effect on the attention, in addition to how I am going to be increasing the size of the Attention gauge with each rising level.

0-25 the roll is X .25 and rounded down, 26-50 is x.5 rounded down, 51-75 is x.75 rounded up, and 76-100 is x1
 
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