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Usagi Quest (CK3/Princess Maker) (Sailor Moon)

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Two thoughts

1) negate the new moon.. I Wonder if/how that will interact with the new moon clan...

2)nobody actually said it, but.. what if Mary is not Beryl's reincarnation, but METALLIA's?

Kinda like Hotaru is the reincarnation of Saturn, but her powers and senshi memories are sort of sealed away until the three talismans are used?
 
Doubtful. That episode with Oblivion rattling some memories loose hinted heavily on a past Life grudge against the Princess of the Moon and the Moon Kingdom, borne from envy.
 
Metallia is inhuman enough as an entity that I honestly doubt she'd have a recognizably human "past life" to refer back to.

Indivisible said:
Well, when Queen Serenity reincarnated everyone who died in the Youma invasion of the Silver Millenium, she reincarnated EVERYONE, including the Youma. This is shown in the anime, and the Seven Wizards from Hell/Seven Great Youma are proof that it wasn't just a background thing. I think that Naru is the human reincarnation of a Youma.
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Would you mind expanding on that? Lack of familiarity with the source material strikes again.
 
Simon_Jester said:
Metallia is inhuman enough as an entity that I honestly doubt she'd have a recognizably human "past life" to refer back to.

Would you mind expanding on that? Lack of familiarity with the source material strikes again.
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Strictly speaking in the source material, 3rd arc of the first season (3rd General too) deals with Zoicite hunting down seven Rainbow Crystals that were used to seal Seven Great Youma, powerful servants of Metallia.

As it happens the 7GY are reincarnated as a bunch of people in modern world, namely - an arcade game enthusiast with telekinesis, a school boy with future sight (the one guy who had seen Zoicite coming), a catholic priest, a college student (I think it was archaeology), an artist (whose paintings are based on Silver Millenium era), a Shinto priest and a really obese cat of heroic disposition. The Rainbow Crystals are extracted from them which turns them into a Youma. Until Sailor Moon uses magic to turn them back.

The climax of the arc has the Rainbow Crystals combine to recreate the Great McGuffin of the SM franchise, Illusionary Silver Crystal aka Maboroshi no Ginzuishou.

Incidentally weren't Rainbow Crystals mentioned in the Precure part of this crossover?

EDIT: I think the big deal was that Rainbow Crystals were initially Fragments of Silver Crystal and yes, could be combined to recreate it. Which may or may not be the reason 7GY were reincarnated - we may assume they were marked for preferential treatment by the Rainbow Crystals as opposed to every random Youma who were not so privileged. We don't know either way.

EDIT2: come to think of it 7GY are not the only people to be reborn with magical jewels in their souls - Kagome (from Inuyasha) is also one, for Shikon no Tama. Amusing coincidence that.

And no, Senshi don't count because magical jewels are their souls.
 
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Well since it is VERY much in doubt whether we're working off the '90s anime version of the Rainbow Crystals, or whether the Rainbow Crystals' role in all this is going to be shaped by the PreCure crossovers, or who-knows-what-all...

It seems to me that any hypothesis about youma being reincarnated, which relies on the example of the Seven Great Youma as evidence, when the Seven Great Youma are themselves contingent upon a particular interpretation of how the Silver Crystal works, a question that is very much up in the air right now... Uh.

Suffice to say that this is a theory with multiple layers of shaky foundations.

I'd say "Naru is reincarnated Beryl," given that Beryl was at least human once, is considerably more probable. Plus, of course, the narrative law of conservation of detail.

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The most plausible scenario in which you're right is "Naru herself is one of the Seven Great Youma, contains one of the Rainbow Crystals, and will herself end up being targeted by both our Dark Kingdom villains and PreCure villains who figure it out."
 
GoukaRyuu said:
What is Naru is Metallia's reincarnation?
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You mean "what if?"

Well, the big question is "did Metallia ever have an incarnation in the first place?" She's not a... person in the normal sense, she's like... some kind of evil spirit eldritch abomination. It's not entirely out of the question that this eldritch abomination would incarnate as a person, and that the person would be someone as nice as Naru, but it's iffy.

The Beryl hypothesis (or for that matter the "one of the Seven Great Youma" hypothesis) is much more likely. Because Beryl WAS human at some point and it's at least plausible that in this iteration of Sailor Moon she died and was reincarnated, and/or that there's some kind of split going on with an evil youma spirit still walking around in the original Beryl's magically preserved body while Beryl's actual soul reincarnated as Naru. And the "Seven Great Youma" hypothesis basically just requires switching out an isolated one-off character and exchanging them with Naru for the plot.

Naru being associated with Metallia herself somehow seems considerably more outlandish. Sure, her magic is weird and kind of dark, but that would be adequately explained by her being Beryl or tied to a regular youma.
 
Considering that Chaos will ultimately be reborn in the far future as Sailor Chaos, it is not entirely out of the question that Metalia, as an incarnation of Chaos, could be reborn in a human form.

However, in this case, there are other more plausible explanations, yes. Besides, Metalia was sealed away, so she would not have gone on to be reborn, regardless.
 
ChaosStar0 said:
You mean Rei's Grandfather.
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. . . That'd just be shoddy storytelling by either the original authors of the source material, or Lunaryon. Also, "A Shinto Priest" is about as generic NPC as it gets in the majority of Asiatic anime and/or manga. Practicably second only to "Wizened Old Man" whom is either some major deity or that mythical hero everyone practically forgotten about.

Also, in Anime, "A Shinto Priest" is basically the third most prevalent job in [name your Asian Country of choice] (though not so prevalent in real life, is still a common profession in said countries)
 
Perhaps Metallia was Sealed in a Person Shaped Can? The new sword info could be hinting at that, and that would definitely be quite a twist. Still, with everything we know and all the signs we've picked up from Naru so far, I think her being Beryl's reincarnation makes more sense thus far.
 
Note the Great Youma theory gels with Ranma's Demon Cat mode being connected to Naru's stuff; presumably he'd have taken the cat's spot on the roster.
 
WCSII said:
. . . That'd just be shoddy storytelling by either the original authors of the source material, or Lunaryon. Also, "A Shinto Priest" is about as generic NPC as it gets in the majority of Asiatic anime and/or manga. Practicably second only to "Wizened Old Man" whom is either some major deity or that mythical hero everyone practically forgotten about.

Also, in Anime, "A Shinto Priest" is basically the third most prevalent job in [name your Asian Country of choice] (though not so prevalent in real life, is still a common profession in said countries)
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Theres also a wandering taoist sage, which also happens in Japan even if it takes the majority of wandering mystery expert roles in china.
 
WCSII said:
. . . That'd just be shoddy storytelling by either the original authors of the source material, or Lunaryon. Also, "A Shinto Priest" is about as generic NPC as it gets in the majority of Asiatic anime and/or manga. Practicably second only to "Wizened Old Man" whom is either some major deity or that mythical hero everyone practically forgotten about.

Also, in Anime, "A Shinto Priest" is basically the third most prevalent job in [name your Asian Country of choice] (though not so prevalent in real life, is still a common profession in said countries)
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Yeah the Seven Great Youma was an anime original plot and it shows. However it was quite explicitly Rei's grandfather, the plot kinda revolves around it, so I'm not sure why Faraway-R left it as a vague "Shinto Priest". Maybe he forgot?
 
UberJJK said:
Yeah the Seven Great Youma was an anime original plot and it shows. However it was quite explicitly Rei's grandfather, the plot kinda revolves around it, so I'm not sure why Faraway-R left it as a vague "Shinto Priest". Maybe he forgot?
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Maybe he was just describing those individuals, not naming them even when they had plot-relevant personal relationships to the protagonists? I mean, let's not nitpick someone to death here over something that isn't important.

WCSII said:
... I... Just... What? How? They could have had any Shinto Priest, and just for lolz and feelz they used her Grandfather!? That. . . Just... Why?
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Because an episode where one of the main cast's relatives gets transformed into a monster somehow is likely to be inherently more interesting than an episode where some rando gets transformed into a monster, especially if you're already precommitted to several plotlines that will all take the form of "some rando we just introduced gets transformed into a monster" anyway?
 
Simon_Jester said:
Because an episode where one of the main cast's relatives gets transformed into a monster somehow is likely to be inherently more interesting than an episode where some rando gets transformed into a monster, especially if you're already precommitted to several plotlines that will all take the form of "some rando we just introduced gets transformed into a monster" anyway?
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... You see, I would agree with your point; but then you made mine in the second half of your own. [edit] That is, you brought up what would have been an excellent rebuttal to your argument; that you used, specifically, as a dismissive for your answer.
 
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WCSII said:
... You see, I would agree with your point; but then you made mine in the second half of your own.
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I'm confused.

See the point is, they've committed to a plot arc that takes the form "seven individuals have special gems and can be transformed into unique monsters" or something like that. In and of itself that's not a problem, but now they have to make as many as possible of the seven separate instances unique and at least reasonably interesting.

There are several ways to do that. You can go "what if one of the Rainbow Crystals was within an animal?" Or "what if they were a person with special powers of their own, unrelated to the crystal and the youma thing?" Or "what if they were a close family member of one of the Inner Senshi?"
 
Simon_Jester said:
There are several ways to do that. You can go "what if one of the Rainbow Crystals was within an animal?" Or "what if they were a person with special powers of their own, unrelated to the crystal and the youma thing?" Or "what if they were a close family member of one of the Inner Senshi?"
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And they did all three. Also the psychic guy is usually ends up as Ami's boyfriend. I do remember she did have a crush on the guy.
 
And the Telekinetic guy was someone that Makoto had a crush on.

I mean, yes, that covers apparently everyone over the age of 16, but still...
 
The college student was Motoki's girlfriend. I don't remember if it was archaeology or not; what I do remember is that she had a tendency in the 90s anime to take opportunities to study abroad and leave Motoki stuck in perpetual long-distance-relationship-zone.

I don't remember if she--or Motoki's sister, for that matter--have shown up or even been mentioned in-quest.
 
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