- Location
- San Ramon, CA
Alice Yotsuba: I've been running the paperwork for about six Pretty Cure teams before this. This isn't the first "confusing feelings I'm having for my good friend" that I've had to help with.
Usagi Quest (CK3/Princess Maker) (Sailor Moon)
Alice Yotsuba: I've been running the paperwork for about six Pretty Cure teams before this. This isn't the first "confusing feelings I'm having for my good friend" that I've had to help with.
Hadn't heard of this before, am curious if thata more than a VA joke or something
Torgamous
Aspiring Gynoid
- Pronouns
- She/Her
I'm not saying allo- and amatonormativity aren't problems, but they're at least as significant for the straights. The only thing unique to "rainbow glasses" is a belief that same-sex characters might not be presented as just friends in good faith, and you can't say that belief isn't well-earned.
Did you reply to the wrong post? I'm not sure what that video has to do with me being confused by a Precure marrying a Kamen Rider or me freaking out over a woman wanting to melt a Precure so she can bathe in her.
Oh though it was the stuff about Mana being a harem protag.
For the wizard stuff, it comes from a gag manga which I left the specific panels some posts up that one.
- Location
- S.E.A
For the first part, Kamen Rider and Pretty Cure get linked together a lot because:
- Both shows are made by Toei
- Airs around the same time in Japan
- Similar pacing and formula
- Share Writers and Actors
- Bandai uses them to sell toys
Kamen Rider Wizard and Doki Doki aired at the same time so it was inevitable.
As for the second... Precure movies and mangas can get wild.
Like the Smile Precure girls ( Haruka and Michiru met one of them, Yayoi Mecha fan) have to fight Cinderella, Issun-boshi, Sun Wukong, Taro Urashima and Momotaro in their movie.
Edit: Ok, I just remembered.
So Maho Girls Pretty Cure (Mother Rapapa's season) has an official manga. There is a scene where the 2 main leads kiss. To be fair, it was to force-feed medicine.
However, The leader Cure, Mirai, had to force-feed the medicine to 3 characters. Only her Partner Cure, Riko got special emphasis, the Sparkly background and flashbacks of happy memories. Not to mention how often they get called a family with the kids they have by other characters and the narration
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frozenchicken
Does not have a custom title.
Solution: Every single example of inter-Cure yuri is completely invisible to everyone on that team...and immensely obvious outside of it. For bonus points: the logic is completely identical, but everybody is incapable of applying the logic to their own circumstances.
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
Yeah. As an example, the bond between Tsubomi and Erika in Heartcatch is obviously strong, and there are some people who might ship it and I'm not saying that's totally invalid, but... I really don't think there's much if any romantic chemistry there.
Of course, Erika's a little too busy being a hyperactive cheerful little gremlin to slow down for romantic scenes at all, so far as I can recall, with any character in the series.
Tsubomi: "Wait, we have paperwork? Nobody told me? AAAAA-"
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Torgamous
Aspiring Gynoid
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Don't worry, Tsubomi, you already did it.
- Location
- Louisville, KY
From everything I've researched I ship Tsubomi and Itsuki.
Lunaryon
Dual Aurora Wave
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Really, the best thing that I can say there is 'Welcome to the Manga' where a set of crazy twins are allowed a lot more leeway.
The whole thing was somewhat built off the fact that Akira is Cure Chocolate, and so melting her down into chocolate sauce isn't quite as graphic... I mean, it still very much is, but...
The villain's name is Salty Pepper, and well... she looks like this
Speaking of, the newest season of Kamen Rider, Gavv's head writer was also the head writer for Healin Good Precure, which makes me really hopeful for Gavv to be good (the first like four episodes have been excellent so far).
Mirai and Riko are getting a pseduo sequel series sometimes later this year/maybe early next year, and there is a petition out there asking Toei to allow them to date, since a lot of people were disappointed with the other sequel series that came out earlier this year.
I'm honestly wondering which ones have good chemistry with male characters cause that would be hilarious if we meet like the mythical straight PreCure
- Pronouns
- He/Him
We already did. Lady Kóre congratulated her in advance about her upcoming marriage to one of the fairy princes.
I have no memory of this.
Torgamous
Aspiring Gynoid
- Pronouns
- She/Her
She's the one we're backing up on Friday.
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StarSingerBlue
Zenryoku Zenkai !
- Location
- The City of Lights
- Pronouns
- They/Them
Out of all the Precures I know, the latest entry, Wonderful PreCure, has surprisingly good chemistry between Iroha and Satoru, who's generally considered a fan favorite as well.
Fresh PreCure on the other hand has Daisuke, a blight upon this Earth who does nothing but bully or act overbearingly patronising to the girl he supposedly likes, with Love having much better chemistry with Setsuna to boot.
Out of the other series which I haven't watched, Delicious Party has Yui and Takumi, which is apparently perfectly serviceable as a ship but suffers from DeliPra being poorly regarded for its writing quality, Yes PreCure 5 has Nozomi and Coco eventually marry each other as well as one of her teammates having a crush on the other prince, Go Princess has Haruna and Prince Kanata, who looks like Dios from some godforsaken reason, Hugtto has Hana marry a guy in the future, as well as an apparently very poorly written romance between Homare and Henri, and Happiness Charge has a love triangle between Cure Lovely, Seiji (apparently a decent fellow ?) and Blue (one of the most hated characters in the PreCure franchise)
There's also a number of random guys with crushes on the Cures, and a decent number of popular ships between the Cures and various villains.
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
TsubomiQuest word of QM:
Tsubomi almost certainly could be depended upon to file her Pretty Cure paperwork on time if she knew it existed. That Diligent trait isn't just for show, and even the power of Vale of the Starry Mists can't overcome it entirely.
In my own opinion, it's the strongest canonically supported ship in Heartcatch, excepting of course relationships that are specifically canonical (such as Tsubomi and Erika's parents who are married with children).
It's just that "strongest canonically supported ship involving the main cast in Heartcatch" is a very low bar to clear, compared to some of the other more aggressively yuri pairings described in other Pretty Cure series.
Indeed.
You know, UsagiQuest Nozomi really is a walking trope inversion.
Getting romantically involved with a boy, locating the season villain's stronghold by looking them up in the phone book, SWATting* the season villain's stronghold...
The girl may have a well deserved reputation as a ditzy goofball, but at least in this quest, she is dangerously likely to break genre conventions when you least expect it.
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*(Does it still count as SWATting if you have excellent firsthand evidence that the target has committed numerous crimes? Maybe not, but still...)
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Its unfortunate we can't do that, mostly because a SWAT team would just die against the things the Senshi fight.
A team of Amazons or squads of anti-magic loaded spec op soldiers just fight one enemy that a Senshi can reliably 1v1.
Still, good on her for using tropes to her advantage like that.
Depends.
Does SWATting require only informing the government of something that would reasonably result in the deployment of heavy government response of a (usually) violent kind, or does it require doing so while knowingly lacking a good reason to call for such?
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
Well see, this is the Nozomi of UsagiQuest. And from HER point of view, she lives in a setting where the government has oni and Genjuros and Symphogears working for it. So calling in the functional equivalent of a SWAT team works rather better than it would in her original canon of origin.
I think SWATting specifically implies bad faith. This is just calling the cops.
jwolfe_beta
Semi Genre-Savvy Overlord
- Location
- Canada
-Looks over the various responses-
So ignoring meta-aspects of how the situation with the Cures comes about, there seem to be a few main aspects in play.
First the various powers of the Cures work better (or require in the first place) positive emotional bounds between the girls. Doesn't have to be romantic, but they actually need to get around/be friends/like each other etc. No maintaing a professional distance/just 'co-workers' here. It's nakama all the way down. So there is that push.
Next is the issue that said would-be boyfriend etc most likely isn't in on the secret. This is a problem since the Cure wouldn't be able to talk about a lot of things with them and would constantly have to put them second/lie to them about why she's running off when it came time to suit up and protect the world from -insert evil force here-. And if they are in on the secret, normal humans generally can't contribute a whole lot in a Cure fight meaning a stressed relationship. Teenagers, what can you do am I right?
Finally the Cures are all in their teens, which by and large is the most uncertain and confusing period of a person's life. And the number of people that they can honestly talk to about their situation and get useful advice from are pretty thin on the ground.
End result, regardless of their actual orientation/leanings etc, the Cures are going to gravitate towards each other because these are the people they feel comfortable with.
So ignoring meta-aspects of how the situation with the Cures comes about, there seem to be a few main aspects in play.
First the various powers of the Cures work better (or require in the first place) positive emotional bounds between the girls. Doesn't have to be romantic, but they actually need to get around/be friends/like each other etc. No maintaing a professional distance/just 'co-workers' here. It's nakama all the way down. So there is that push.
Next is the issue that said would-be boyfriend etc most likely isn't in on the secret. This is a problem since the Cure wouldn't be able to talk about a lot of things with them and would constantly have to put them second/lie to them about why she's running off when it came time to suit up and protect the world from -insert evil force here-. And if they are in on the secret, normal humans generally can't contribute a whole lot in a Cure fight meaning a stressed relationship. Teenagers, what can you do am I right?
Finally the Cures are all in their teens, which by and large is the most uncertain and confusing period of a person's life. And the number of people that they can honestly talk to about their situation and get useful advice from are pretty thin on the ground.
End result, regardless of their actual orientation/leanings etc, the Cures are going to gravitate towards each other because these are the people they feel comfortable with.
Almech_Alfarion
(Unverified Paradox)
- Location
- Roaming the Void of the Space between Spaces
Well, hopefully we can alleviate at least a few of these points in the next few months/years. As it sits, it isn't really a secret that a lot of the Cures are "underage", and the only reason the Diet/Onogoro haven't pulled the same thing the UK did with their Fair Remidy's is logistics and the shear overwhelming number of incursions. The more we can make "recruiting young girls by way of magical mascots" unnecessary by putting responsible and reasonable adults on the problems, the less the whole "secret soldiers fighting a war against the forces of evil" shtick will be necessary. Cures won't go away, but hopefully we can shift them back to a role more like the one they had back in the Silver Millennium, where it's a position of prestige, and they have a few years to actually train and grow up before being thrown into conflict. We're also laying the groundwork for normalizing magic, so they won't have to "hide" their magic from their families and other loved ones forever.
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