You know, I'm not sure but Takeda Sukuno might just be a Guardian. Just a feeling, and the fact that he brings it up in his own head every other paragraph. Good grief there's arrogance and then there's high off your own fumes!
It's not arrogance. It's Inferiority.

The Ministry of Onigoro is defined by stasis. The people in charge have been running the show for decades, maybe even centuries. Even the ranking leader we know of that's putting things together is a teacher out of favor with the establishment, the only true leader we've ever fought was the Onigoro equivalent of a mafia boss.

There is no place for the young and new. Takada is told that he's small person, he will always be small until he works his entire life to even be considered to climb, and that he should be grateful for the privilege of being the guy who gets pushed around.

He's always talking himself up because everyone else keeps knocking him down, and the only alternatives are to break or rebel.
 
I thought one of the Precure realms had it?

I bet it's used as a water fixture. Maybe a birdbath.
Don't know where it is now, but future Usagi has it later:
"Didn't I, er, future me, warn you about using Sailor Senshi things?"

"Well. Um."

"Did I?"

"...Mama said to never play with the Disguise Pen, or the Holy Grail, or the Eternal Moon Article, or things like that, but she never mentioned this brooch…"
Of course if we're going full Fate there's just several dozen lying around, including the whole damn Moon.
 
Don't know where it is now, but future Usagi has it later:

Of course if we're going full Fate there's just several dozen lying around, including the whole damn Moon.

Ohhhh, yeah!

...It's probably locked in that Vault back in England.

Y'know, the one they asked the Key Youma for. That's a long-term quest, plenty of time to open it before Minori rolls around.

...I still had the strangest image of the Knights of the Round Table being Precures.
 
The Black Moon Clan are doing deals with Zoicitie, who has chosen a kid running the family bakery to make "friends" with while they explore being a genderfluid kid.
From the sound of Jadeite's account, Zoisite/Zoicite/spelling-negotiable isn't so much "exploring" genderfluidity as "planted flags on most of the major landmarks and been tap-dancing around and between them for subjective centuries."

The 'kid' aspect, given that Saki isn't surprised to hear "Zoey" talking about being in a corporate management position, is probably just a function of the artwork and of people who choose to present as eternally youthful looking kind of, well, young.

Zoi is so small lol. Thought she was older.
I wouldn't be surprised of Zoisite is creatively abusing glamour spam and has a (genderfluid, fashion-varying) appearance specifically for the task of showing up at this bakery.

I don't remember seeing the guy Saberface getting mentioned.
Yeah, I don't think he's here. Only the girl Saberface.

...I still had the strangest image of the Knights of the Round Table being Precures.
Sir Fred: "Already had this conversation with Chypre and Coffret."
 
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If, as seems likely from context, it means Chris, my best guess is that they're seeing magical girls who aren't aligned with the Senshi as rebels.
Unless she tripped headfirst into one of the other crossovers somewhere Chris shouldn't be a MG, 'Ichival' is one of the Nazi-sourced relics.l, and we've only previously heard of Vajra and Ame-no-Habakiri.
I don't remember seeing the guy Saberface getting mentioned.
What, you missed all my tirades about the evils of Saberface?:V
 
I second this.

Full Fate currently outmasses in terms of lore and complexity our current setting by several orders of magnitude. Even partial Fate directly contradicts a lot of the stuff we currently have, like the Clocktower being next door to the Spellblades and having a totally different culture.

Frankly it would be much, much easier and less confusing to take every non-Prillya magical girl series and toss them into our setting at random than to crossover in any way beyond faceclaims with Fate.
(And yes, I'm including stuff like Madoka/Cardcaptor Sakura/Magilumiere/Sleepless Domain in that)

(Having to deal with places with completely different social structures and metaphysical lore is a piece of cake compared to Fate)
'Ichival' is one of the Nazi-sourced relics.
Nazi-sourced relics ?
 
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That'd make the story surrounding Arthur, Guinevere, and Lancelot pretty awkward.
I don't see why. It's a straightforward love triangle.

I mean, if you really want to be outlandish by this quest's standards, you could gender-flip Guinevere and have Cure Regal and Cure Peerless or whatever both be after the same boyfriend. Two straight girls on the same magical girl team? Shocking.



Also, just a thought...

But if Saki feels confused, Zoey certainly doesn't seem either confused or surprised. "Oh? Well, that's very helpful of you two! I didn't know the boss had planned for this. Then again, I can see why she'd prepared in advance; Ansie was never very loyal, was she?" Zoey shakes her head sadly, and her eyes are watching the two new arrivals. Who look at each other, a bit nervously. Zoey smiles encouragingly. "Now now, don't be afraid to tell me the truth. I only bite on special occasions~"
So I am reminded here that this is Zoisite.

Zoisite, primordial wielder of 'his/her/their/any lol' pronouns.

Zoisite, probably several centuries old, at least, even discounting subjective time that passed in Point Zero with Beryl between the Fall and the present day.

Zoisite, gifted enough in organization and tradecraft that they were trusted by planetary/stellar divine monarchs to tutor their children, TWICE, despite apparently being a scandalous flirt on a semi-regular basis.

Zoisite, Intrigue monster of the Shitennou.

Now, here, Zoisite, Dark Lady, and, uh, 'Magi the female Saberface' are talking about "Ansie." By implication, 'Ansie' is supposed to be referring to either Cendrellion, Drella, or the Glass Sisters as a collective pair.

...

We've spent a fair amount of time inside the Glass Sisters' internal narrative or interacting with them. We know that whatever may be said against them, disloyalty was never really their thing. Cendrellion, when she was on the brink of acquiring superyouman (heh) magical power, wasn't thinking about how to usurp Beryl, but about how to join her inner circle. We have no evidence of Drella being any different.

And the Glass Sisters predate the Fall. Jadeite told us about their origin as one of Beryl's old shamans. They would have been active participants in the events of the Fall, and Zoisite would know them.

So Zoisite knows damn well the Glass Sisters weren't disloyal, and knows that any youma familiar with the Glass Sisters would probably know that, and that any youma who knows Zoisite will know things about Zoisite (see for reference Jadeite's recent testimony).

...

The girl in black's mouth twists as she suppresses a giggle, but Magi finally manages an answer. "Ma'am, I hope you don't think we'd be working with Ansie against the interests of the company…"

whoosh

And quite suddenly, Zoey's crossed half the room to stand quite close by Magi's side. Her hand reaches up to pat Magi on the cheek. Her voice drops an octave, and she suddenly seems quite serious, without the cloud of giggling playfulness she so often trails behind her. "Don't worry, Magi darling. I don't believe for a minute that you were doing any such thing."

Flustered, Magi glances at Kuro, whose eyes have narrowed. They both seem rather tense at the sudden move. But then Magi smiles a bit shakily, and says "Good. That's good."
My hypothesis:

Our favorite zoomer magical villain gang just rolled competitive Intrigue checks.

And they went into this situation badly underestimating how good their opposition was at intrigue.
 
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Now, here, Zoisite, Dark Lady, and, uh, 'Magi the female Saberface' are talking about "Ansie." By implication, 'Ansie' is supposed to be referring to either Cendrellion, Drella, or the Glass Sisters as a collective pair.
"Wise of you. Cendrellion and Drella were an experiment of Beryl's, from before the Fall. They used to be one of her shamans- as I said, her name was Anzimee, though both of the Glass Sisters were pleased to take the names Beryl gave them. She was trying to achieve something in particular by making two youma from one person- she never told me what.
Seems to be referring to the shaman herself.
 
From the sound of Jadeite's account, Zoisite/Zoicite/spelling-negotiable isn't so much "exploring" genderfluidity as "planted flags on most of the major landmarks and been tap-dancing around and between them for subjective centuries."
*tilts head*
Zoey is… Well, honestly, Saki isn't sure if Zoey is a girl or a boy. They normally only come to the bakery once a week or so, for a long time, months and months, probably almost a year, come to think of it. And they've never showed up dressed as either a girl or a boy more than three times in a row. It's not just a coin flip if they're going to be dressed as a boy or a girl; that's switching back and forth on purpose. So Saki just shrugs and thinks of Zoey based on however they dress for any given visit.
Given the viewpoint character is telling us the audience how to perceive this, pretty sure that's what is going on. The lack of detail "Zoey" is giving Saki doesn't seem to apply to how they identify, so... what's the secret writer knowledge I'm missing here?
 
*tilts head*

Given the viewpoint character is telling us the audience how to perceive this, pretty sure that's what is going on. The lack of detail "Zoey" is giving Saki doesn't seem to apply to how they identify, so... what's the secret writer knowledge I'm missing here?
Oh, I just meant that Jadeite just now told us that Zoisite's been genderfluid since, like, literally before the sinking of Atlantis. Actually, before the cataclysm before the sinking of Atlantis, since so far as Jadeite knows Atlantis wasn't their fault.

They're in that territory, they're just not exploring it.
 
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Over in canon Symphogear the non-Japanese relics(the Gungnir and 'Ichival' fragments, plus the Complete Relic Nehustan, Durandal was got off the EU more recently) were originally received from Nazi Germany's supernatural research division back when they and Japan were allied.
Hm. That specific detail sounds likely to get butterflied here, given that the Nazi wizards were up against more direct and credible wizard competition, what with the British being a peer competitor, Zombie Ivan the Terrible outclassing them but being somewhat restrained about doing so, and the Vatican probably not being entirely cooperative, to say the least.
 
Arthur was the King of Knights, so Cure Knight/King?
Lancelot of the Lake, so Cure Lake/Lance?
Guinevere... Cure Superior? She becomes a nun.
I was trying not to go with easy references. 'Cure Regal' is a bit more indirect, and 'Cure Peerless' is a reference to the fact that Lancelot's established reputation is as being basically the 'mightiest knight on life,' as it were.

Guinevere would, in this re-imagining, probably not be a Cure. They'd be Cure Regal's non-magical sweetie.
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*(Lancelot, of course, is the OC Donut Steel fanfic French knight who got crudely canon-welded into the Matter of Britain back in the Middle Ages, so the quasi-final form of the Matter of Britain that became known and widely accepted after the rise of print media presents Lancelot as generally being the strongest.)
 
Hm. That specific detail sounds likely to get butterflied here, given that the Nazi wizards were up against more direct and credible wizard competition, what with the British being a peer competitor, Zombie Ivan the Terrible outclassing them but being somewhat restrained about doing so, and the Vatican probably not being entirely cooperative, to say the least.
Yeah, hence why I was mentioning it in the context of MCAT presumably lacking Chris's canon Gear.
 
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