- Pronouns
- He/Him
Why, they do it by the will of Zeus, the god of Lightning and cheating, of course!
Usagi Quest (CK3/Princess Maker) (Sailor Moon)
Almech_Alfarion
(Unverified Paradox)
- Location
- Roaming the Void of the Space between Spaces
Whenever anyone asks this question, I only ever have this for response:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qE0UimODxNg
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- Mid-Atlantic
The British actually started chasing up the "runic stenciled circuit board" and "vacuum tube" approaches to computing in parallel during the war. The basic architecture required is very, very different, and it was very much unclear which option would work better in advance.
For example, the Mark I general purpose thaumaturgical computer was capable of massively parallel processing, but the clock speed was about 3-5 Hz because a guy with a magic wand had to manually cycle it every time.
Even early tube-based electronic computers, to put it mildly, do not work this way.
In other trivia-news, Sir Frederick Evans' first contribution to the Second World War was as a CPU clock generator.
Also, while thaumaturgical computers turned out to be vastly simpler and less fiddly to build for a given level of processing power at least at first, the number of available personnel who could work with them was very, very limited, and getting them hooked up to functional peripherals was a bear of a technical problem.
There were very good reasons why after Turing wrote to Newman-senpai and convinced him to go to work on this problem, and after Newman and Stibbons finally got the Mark I working, Newman immediately moved to Bletchley Park and set to work doing the same thing with the fully electronic Mark I Colossus.
The Americans were actually years behind in this application, because the idea of magical computing required a wizard and a very specific sort of mathematician to meet under very specific circumstances. By happenstance, those circumstances did not arise in the US until years later, and neither the wizard nor the mathematician was immediately motivate to follow up.
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Cool, Naru just found concrete evidence for String Theory's quantized extra-spacial dimensions by falling into a memory of a Calabi-Yau manifold.
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Hmm I think old rotten gem there is more likely using a faulty adaptor. There was mention of.. cushions? If they are "metaphysical" cushions too not just literally cushions it could mean some sort of dampening agent meant to deal with backlash or adapting it for her use
- Location
- Bowling Green
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PSYCHIC PUNCH!
Also, Naru should try to become a Soulknife to do this outside of a dreamscape.
Edit: Vote
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I'm not sure that objection about making Beryl incompetent if the throne is Artificial is a valid reading. From what we have seen ,a Throne has deep metaphysical significance, in that occupying a Throne mantles a piece of reality.
The below is a bad example but just to get my thoughts on the subject across so apologies for it.
Say Beryl created a Throne of Sorcerers (pulling from the example of the 'Sorcerer Supreme' from Marvel, aka the strongest Sorcerer in the world). If Beryl didn't fulfil those credentials, then she would have 'usurped' that position. Sure, I'm not suggesting that this throne is 'The Throne of Sorcerers' or anything of the like, but just if you create a Throne of a metaphysical concept, not being the perfect embodiment of that concept might mean that your an usuruper. For another example, if somebody found Selene's throne and sat on it, we would think that they have usurped Usagi's throne, because simply sitting on the t throne doesn't mean you embody the concept it represents.
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No shame in calling a friend when the problem is tech you don't have and they do because this is our first adventure and they are seasoned adventurers. Two friends are even better.
And include a note to the Ministry that We have sent copies of this scan data from our spy satelitte that aquires and stores real-time snapshots of the entire Solar System to multiple repuatible Magical organizations.
No shame in calling a friend when the problem is tech you don't have and they do because this is our first adventure and they are seasoned adventurers. Two friends are even better.
And include a note to the Ministry that We have sent copies of this scan data from our spy satelitte that aquires and stores real-time snapshots of the entire Solar System to multiple repuatible Magical organizations.
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- Mid-Atlantic
Well, that's for a different reason, it's because Selene wanted Usagi to have that throne.
Usagi isn't the perfect embodiment of any single concept, and Selene doesn't seem to have been either, and even if one or both of them was, it's not the same concept.
Right, I suppose it was possible to successfully build an new Throne, but whether or not that Throne would be "artificial" in a manner that matters is really difficult to say. Also, I'd say it is far far more likely that if building a new, never before existing Throne, one would be far more likely to mess up making the Throne, than to have built a perfect Throne that doesn't accept you. And if you could understand them enough to know how to make a perfect Throne, then you would know that this one doesn't fit you.
Theoretically possible? Sure. Likely? Hardly.
And the only "evidence" for an artificial Throne is that "animals wouldn't have naturally occurring gemstones in their throne". This is an incredibly weak and unfounded assumption. It assumes the Throne held by a demigod would just... a normal dirt cave or something, becuase the Demigod in question is "merely" an animal. But the Tales of Anansi and Coyote depict beings who were most assuredly grand enough to have glittering rocks on the symbols of their power and authority.
While additionally missing that it was unlikely to have been a known Anima Throne, and could be a similar, yet different, thing. Such as the Throne of the Sun, or the Throne of the Moon, or the Throne of Dreams.
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I think your missing the context of my statement there. There is a difference between a throne of a political entity (aka the throne of a kingdom),a Throne of a Concept (such as the various Anima's that Mamoru visited). Queen Selene wanted her daughter to have the Political throne of the Moon Kingdom. If there is a capital T conceptual Throne involved, merely wanting somebody to have it probably would only play a part in choosing who sits/occupies on it (at least in my view, which may be entirely wrong).
...also, 'Usagi not representing a single concept' probably runs into 'The Silver Crystal probably counts as a concept'.
However, fair enough.
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- Mid-Atlantic
AHEM.
Okay, now you're kind of not thinking through what I was getting at and making uncharitable oversimplifying assumptions.
My point wasn't that an Anima Throne shouldn't have gemstones or whatever, or should be bare dirt, or something like that.
My point was that given that we know the Anima Thrones were intimately connected to the natural world and ecology of the Earth, then you would naively expect them to contain natural materials, or be surrounded by lush living things, or something that indicates a connection to nature. Imagine what the throne room of a nature goddess or a god of the hunt might look like. Think stereotypically. It might be magnificently rich and beautiful, but it wouldn't be barren, nor would it be conspicuously unnatural and anti-natural in character.
Beryl's throne or Throne just doesn't look the way we'd naively expect an Anima Throne intimately tied to magic to look. Either she must have been corrupting it a long time, or it has its origins in some other thing as you speculate, or it's an artificial construct of her own that's illegitimately 'hacking into' sources of power that don't belong to her and using them for her benefit and that explains why Naru's instinct is to see her as a usurper because she's imitating the old ways.
Ah. Odd, then, because my own point was essentially "I don't believe the Moon Kingdom had such a capital-T Throne, and if it did, then I suspect it would be incompatible with either Selene, Usagi, or both."
I have some thoughts about that, tied into what's been informing my Under The Distant Moon series of, ah, "Indian magical negaquest" omakes. If you're interested, I could expand on that, but I don't want to babble pointlessly.
So... your call.
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- Mid-Atlantic
Hm. It's certainly possible that this was all a bid to marry into control of some kind of phenomenal magical power. Or at least that that's how it started.
Right, but this one isn't unnatural or anti-natural. The description reads "Instead the thing is hewn from stone and ice, rubies and sapphires, and what seems to be almost living veins of metal."
Veins of Metal? Natural
Rubies? Natural
Saphires? Natural
Stone? Natural
Ice? Natural.
Sure, it doesn't look like the throne of a forest god, or a bountiful nature goddess, but what about the throne of a mountain god? A cave God? This is why I feel like this is a conclusion that is difficult to justify jumping to. You are assuming Anima = Natural = plants, wood, fecund life. But the natural world isn't only plants. That is, as you say, thinking naively and stereotypically.
Especially since we know that in Canon, Point Zero is in the Artic. Which isn't known for lush nature. A Throne in the barren norths of the world, sitting near untapped riches? That could work for this.
And note, it doesn't say worked metal, but living veins of metal. That is sufficiently natural terminology to at least be considered for a demi-god associated with underground, caves, mountains, ect.
- Location
- Louisville, KY
He was talking about the unnatural geometry, not that it was made of metal and gems. Reread the description. It's a 'throne' made of non-euclidean geometry, the kind of stuff you'd see from Lovecraft, or MC Escher, not a Nature God.
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- San Ramon, CA
Due to the Throne's eldritch nature, I'm suspecting that maybe it's not related to Beasts or Men or Monsters, that it's a completely Alien thing that only Drunk-Usagi would have a proper understanding of. The description feels like nothing else we have encountered so far; there's a chance where even if we showed it to Endymion, he wouldn't know what to make of it.
- Location
- Massachusetts
Nanoha! She and Usagi together will bombard the world in Friendship!
I wonder if Fate is still struggling in that awful situation? Precia will get such a beat down and finger wagging.
I wonder if Fate is still struggling in that awful situation? Precia will get such a beat down and finger wagging.
Winged One
Not the Simurgh
- Location
- definitely the ground
- Pronouns
- They/Them/It
Whiskey: the most friendly of interrogation drugs.
Yeah, I can imagine that Q division was absolutely fucking livid about what happened to him in the end.
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- Mid-Atlantic
They didn't work with him that closely on their own projects, or directly on his, actually.
But yes, their reaction was broadly in line with what much of the British signals and cryptography establishment felt at the time. A number of secrecy regulations and prohibitions on some of their more esoteric options did chafe extra hard in Q Division that year.
From ancillary hints, we're still quite early in Season One, so it's entirely possible Fate and Nanoha haven't even met, and Precia's certainly still Precia-ing at full force.
Lunaryon
Dual Aurora Wave
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Yeah, to clear things up the Tree in episode 3 hasn't happened yet, and episode four is when Nanoha normally meets fate. It is at this point some... 15-ish hours since she first picked up Raising Heart at this point. She has sealed the one blobby thing last night, and that is about it.
EDIT: Oh right, also that four eyed dog thing.
EDIT: Oh right, also that four eyed dog thing.
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- Location
- Dragyxx
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- He/Him/His
...Of course, once things become obvious, it will trigger a Jewel Seed Race as basically every one of the like 12 factions in play here tries to get their hands on them.
Poor Fate is liable to get upstaged by some random Youma, that would be perfectly happy with the chance to turn into a rampaging kaiju for little additional effort.
Poor Fate is liable to get upstaged by some random Youma, that would be perfectly happy with the chance to turn into a rampaging kaiju for little additional effort.
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- San Ramon, CA
Well, the good news is that, unless I'm quite mistaken, nobody KNOWS that the Jewel Seeds are "technically granting wishes". As far as anyone else is concerned, it's just another thing creating a Monster of the Week. The Jewel Seeds don't have the "in-built temptation for ultimate power" that the Shikon Jewel has; the idea that this mutating power could potentially be harnessed for one's own agenda isn't going to easily occur to anyone else.
Now, there's still a chance that a Youma or Onogoran mage might stumble across one, but I doubt anyone knows enough to try and actively hunt them down.