Quite honestly, the best things we have came from going out of our way to do activities off the beaten path in the Sect, with some help from Xin/the Moon.
Actually, if you think about it, why are we even with Cai? The moon gives us so much more. If we pass Momma Cai's test, we'll get some goodies, sure. But if we fail? We're not really going to suffer much, CRX is. Why are we making passing Cai Shenhua's test the focus of the quest? Do we even like Cai Shenhua? Does CRX even see us as more than a particularly capable vassal? Is she even capable of going above SL 2? The Cai's are basically direct references to the main villain of Kill La Kill, why are we so obsessed with serving under them anyways?
- Zhengui: Came from a Sect trial with Meizhen, our friend
- Sixiang: Definitively Moon
- Hanyi: Probably manipulated into helping her by Xin
- FVM: Given to us by Xin/Jiao, possibly to link us to Zeqing later
- Sable pills: Xin/Jiao, huge leg up in Qi
- SCS: Xin/Jiao, is now part of our dodge skill too
- FSS: Zeqing and therefore probably also Xin
- Umbral Shard that we used for our weapon: Moon Mission
- Entropic Mirror that made us rich: Moon Mission
- Robe: Cai
- TRF: I don't remember
- White Room: Cai, but we would've been able to benefit without joining her
Not really. We don't actually get "spend time with family" AP actions. We've had some as social actions, but they are not available each month and we can't use AP to get more social actions besides.That's not the issue though. It's not spending time on family/social/whatever is bad it's that this locks that AP from being spent on anything else. If we wanted to spend extra time with family we could always allocate the AP when we want.
Except "family" includes our spirits which means that we're also investing AP in interacting with and training them which is something Hanyi badly needs given her stats and recent events[X] While you will be present as much as you can, your household cannot be top priority yet. (Status quo)
Why? Weirdly enough, I think I perfer this, with the occasional dips into dealing with our family that we'll put in (especially if it looks like anything is on fire, family-wise.)
Thinking about it more, I'm not sure if the idea that yrsillar "does not offer trap choices" is entirely accurate. There were trap choices in the King of the Forest arc, although they only resulted in relatively minor consequences.
Uh, we got it confirmed that the entire event was a Kobayashi Maru, by an actual adherent of the Bloody Moon. There was no winning choices, just ones that had different bad outcomes.
While true, there is an issue of granularity and visibility of the benefits.People are again misrepresenting the family option.
It's not 22 AP into one SL.
its 22 SL spread out across at least 5.
Which is a fairly reasonable amount of AP particularly as three of those SL's are our spirit beasts and directly combat relevant.
Uh, we got it confirmed that the entire event was a Kobayashi Maru, by an actual adherent of the Bloody Moon. There was no winning choices, just ones that had different bad outcomes.
There was a post ysillar made about not telling us the results of other choices because it would lead to salt.
There was a post ysillar made about not telling us the results of other choices because it would lead to salt.
Uh, we got it confirmed that the entire event was a Kobayashi Maru, by an actual adherent of the Bloody Moon who's done retries enough times that he's all but mapped out the entire event chain. There was no winning choices, just ones that had different bad outcomes.
Some might have been worse choices, but there were no good ones.
>way is based on home/familyExcept "family" includes our spirits which means that we're also investing AP in interacting with and training them which is something Hanyi badly needs given her stats and recent events
>way is based on home/family
>3 seperate spirits and possibly counting
You make convincing arguements good sir.
[X] In the future, devote more time to your household and your family. (-1AP in future turns)
...On a sidebar note, does anyone else Ling Qi knows have more than like, one or two spirits?
Fair. Still though, if major things happened then AP would be locked into that particular event for the turn so I still think leaving it open for future options is the better choice.Not really. We don't actually get "spend time with family" AP actions. We've had some as social actions, but they are not available each month and we can't use AP to get more social actions besides.
In practice, this vote represents Ling Qi allocating more time to spend on her relationships, with said extra time locked to family. This is not something we can do in a normal monthly plan.
Hanyi hasn't made her official debut in the inner sect yet, to my knowledge and Sixiang is an internal spirit which means that people who are particularly looking might not see her....On a sidebar note, does anyone else Ling Qi knows have more than like, one or two spirits?
While true, there is an issue of granularity and visibility of the benefits.
When selecting normal SL we are aware of what they involve in broad terms whereas the "Household and Family" option has an opacity to it that makes it something for of a (potential) 20+ AP mystery box, as again it's unknown even in general terms what we are looking forward to seeing or gaining from this. Yes, other SL have given quite a bit but I prefer to muddle with the "known" investments that we have rather than pour one AP per month until either the tournament or the end of our time in the Sect.
Regarding those stating we should be able to back out for crunch time, I saw the salt content of "We Stand in Awe" and the constant back and forth regarding any major decision and the dredging up of the arguments every time the options came up. If we were aware of an automatic "back-off" during the months immediately prior to the tournament then yes that'd be entirely acceptable for us to make an "emergency cram session" for arts that we are on the threshold for and this vote to be a bit more palatable.
There are costs and benefits to this vote, and I'm sure we'll get something out of choosing "Household and Family" I would rather focus more directly on the known/foreseeable quantities of our build and our Spirit Beasts rather than place them all in the same pile as Biyu and Qinnge.
It's not functionally irrelevant, as by definition it's part of the materials Cai offers, beyond the personal level stuff she's giving us now.1. Completely unquantifiable and so far into the future as to be functionally irrelevant
@Pathos mentioned 2 above, and for the latter I'll point out that we've never actually lost a domain weapon fight except against a Ducal.1. Completely unquantifiable and so far into the future as to be functionally irrelevant
2. Do you have a source for this? Because we seemed to be feeding Zhengui just fine from our regular activities/hunting trips before joining up with Cai.
3. Already mentioned the robe upgrade as nice. The blade, for all it's supposed quality has not been impressing narritively (which @yrsillar has started trying to address). Part of the issue is that we haven't seen other equipment available at all in this thread the way we did in the last one, making it rather difficult to see what the difference in quality actually means.
Context is also important. Why would an Elder bother giving us that much cash unless we were their direct apprentice, and even then that aid is going to be more limited as we rise in cultivation compared to what we can get as the left hand to a ducal heir.4 & 5. Given the increases we're seeing in income purely from the sect and sect jobs, if an elder couldn't easily equal that level of monetary contribution with their pocket change then I'll eat my hat.
We still could have at least stick by our friends.
Not asking for our partner to be spared was a mistake.