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Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)

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I'd point you to the post above about the necessity of sovereigns, and invite you to say if you believe Ling Qi thinks those are problems of too little communication.

As for that post, about the necessity of sovereigns- we no longer have the stars crushing the surface, the dragon gods have been cast down, even the seasons are ordered. We did need them, and do need them, but the trend is towards needing then less.
 
Glau said:
I'd point you to the post above about the necessity of sovereigns, and invite you to say if you believe Ling Qi thinks those are problems of too little communication.
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I'm not sure what you are trying to say here? I already shared a quote showing that Qi believes that the lack of communication and barriers preventing more of it is a major source of conflict, one that Qi intends to ascend to help solve. Not just reach sovereign but actually ascend.

yrsillar said:
"Bao Qian. I have an answer to the question you asked, back at the start. About what I need the power of ascension for."

"Ah, do you now?" He questioned. "I suspected."

She gave a shallow nod. "I am going to improve the way we in the Emerald Seas communicate. Within and without. There are so many squabbling factions, in clans and between clans, a million petty disputes and borders that snarl and tangle every single thing, that cause battles that have no need to happen. This is what I am going to contribute to the future Cai Renxiang sees."
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Qi does believe that the lack of communication is a major issue causing all these problems, so it does not matter what you and I believe as long as Qi believes it enough to cultivate to ascension on.
 
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Ehorin said:
meanwhile: "half the liberal states looking back at the benevolent tyrant who dragged them kicking and screaming into liberalism in the first place".

Liberal Democracies have strong advantages over pretty much every authoritarian system in practice, true enough. But, it is also true that people are people, and some people, are, in fact, capable of exercising power in genuinely positively ways. Authoritarian systems have issues consistently getting such individuals reliably, but when they DO get such individuals, there are very positive effects.
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Not really. Even with good intentions, power corrupts. There is a reason most of said benevolent tyrants retired voluntarily after a certain term. And it wasn't old age.

Even if a tyrant is fully selfless and benign, too much time at the top and you stop seeing those ants below. And when you make mistake, act unjustly, which everyone do, there is nothing to balance that one out.
 
Glau said:
I'd point you to the post above about the necessity of sovereigns, and invite you to say if you believe Ling Qi thinks those are problems of too little communication.

As for that post, about the necessity of sovereigns- we no longer have the stars crushing the surface, the dragon gods have been cast down, even the seasons are ordered. We did need them, and do need them, but the trend is towards needing then less.
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If you look at any of the times that Ling Qi has had to deal with spirits, you'll find that the difficulty in communicating between humans and spirits could have led to disastrous consequences. Heck, if Ling Qi and Cai Renxiang didn't reach out to the Polar Nations the Empire would probably have had to fight them.
Ling Qi's story has for a long time now been defined by the power of communication to resolve conflicts and avoid needless pain and loss.
 
I highly doubt the thread can stop Ling Qi from ascending to Sovereign eventually anyways.

It feels like the kind of option that'd get a cross through it since it's so vehemently anti LQ she'd never allow it to happen.
 
[X] Study the nature of borders

I just feel this is better as a baron and diplomat. Borders are important tools to use and understand as a leader. And a lot of what Ling Qi's done so far has been helping negotiate borders and boundaries, imho.
 
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Sometimes I think this thread is going to be absolutely gutted when Biyu is about ten or eleven and is a total headstrong brat rather than a cute little girl who says the darndest things.
 
nope0 said:
I really can't think of an example where a state having more power has made people worse off. People suffer without a strong central authority.
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Belated, but I can think of a *LOT* of examples where a nation/state having more people has made people worse off, largely from the consequences of Imperialism, and how Imperialist drives work to extract value and resources out of less privileged peoples.

Power, in and of itself, tends to be neutral. Power does not corrupt, power clarifies, power enables people to do what they're inclined to do without consequences.

A powerful, corrupt, selfish state, is worse for its people. A powerful, honest, and earnest state is good for its people.

Also, historically, lots of peoples have lived just fine, having fulfilling lives with absolutely no central authority whatsoever. It's not great at the macro scale, yes, but still worth noting. (Sociopolitics is complicated, yo)
 
The issue is mainly the part where the side that gets by without major power disparity gets flattened when an external player with focused power rolls by.

Sort of what happened to the proto-Weilu when the Sage Emperor rolled through.
Easy to say not to make more Sage Emperors on purpose, but not much you can do to stop other people from making them.
 
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