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Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)

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The general's philosophy is pretty interesting. She desires Utility above all, since anything more wasn't something she could afford during the rebellion against the Hui.

If it isn't able to fight the Hui in some way, then it's to be discarded, even if that something is the things that make life worth living in the first place.
 
Hmm, what insights do you think one would get from Skulk? The general thrust would remain the same, I presume, but might be more angled to water themes?
 
I suppose pebbles starting an avalanche would be more fitting for Ling Qi than igniting sparks into an inferno, but you get what the tribulation gives.
 
CornyBones said:
Extreme Heat and Extreme Cold have a similarity, and its deadening the ability to feel. In this way the fire metaphor is flexible.
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Alright, I get you, but let me offer you a different perspective: Xia Ran is crin-ge and I want no part of her dirty mitts on Ling Qi.

Granted, my issue are more on the flavor text than the fact that it came from Xia Ren herself, but the fact of the matter is that the Advanced Insight wouldn't have been made without Xia Ren and I object to that. If we were carried by, say, Shu Yue or Huisheng, I would've remained quiet and the flavoring and aesthetics would've been completely different. The point stands it came from Xia Ren, therefore it's not as cool :V
 
You know, this fight is making me feel like Sovereign combat is a bit like internet flame wars. They're basically shouting arguments and insults at each other. :V
 
How many Sovereign Way pitfalls have Ling Qi learned from? It's pretty rare for a Green to have that so many, I'm sure.

There's:
Diao Linqin
Xia Ren
Meng Deming ??? (SWD)
Sima Jiao
Elder Ying

Not sure about anyone else.
 
yrsillar said:
She could feel through Sixiang, through her own senses flickering echoes of the real world, so far away from them now. Of a withering, pounding heat and a quaking earth. Of people rushing about in a panic, distant cries, steam boiling from the Meng compound flooded now, waters poured down the side of the cloven mountain.
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"Good lord, what is happening in there?"
"Ideological debate between Imperial clans?"
"Ideological debate? At this point in negotiations, at this time of day, in this part of the Wall, localised entirely within the Meng compound?"
"...Yes."
"May I see it?"
"No."
 
Justbrowsing said:
Honestly, I kinda imagine the White Sky looking at this. Seeing these Sovereigns throw down, and say "this is why our cultivation is different. It's all in order to prevent things like this happening, and it is worth it."

And I'm not sure they're wrong. (Even though it isn't for us.)
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With how lower Realm Meng are mantling SWD and might be the ones who incited him to take action instead of the other way around they would not have a leg to stand on, since it'd be exactly like their cultivation.
 
Karthak Urzak said:
The bad news: Ling Qi will be at -6 with the Meng Reactionaries after this.
The good news: But that won't matter because they'll all be fucking dead when the dust settles.
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No joke. Honestly, the reformers are... well not thrilled because the Meng will take a lot of damage, but this does a lot for their faction's power. Something like this confrontation was inevitable, though the timing was not. The ways of those involved (Xia Ren, the traitor Meng, and Shenhua) would not allow different. In other circumstances, it could have been the end of the Meng. But since Meng Dui reached out to Ling Qi and Renxian, they have a connection there to prove that not the entire clan is disloyal, and someone to speak for them who will be heard.

I think one critical moment was when Ling Qi asked Meng Dan to tell her if he noticed anything weird going on with his clan, and he did. Even at the time, this was noted as a somewhat risky ask, because it's asking to in some way betray his clan. That he did it shows (or at least can be argued to show) that at least some of the Meng (including some of the higher ranks) have loyalty to the greater whole of the Emerald Seas. And it was also specifically against the work of this faction.

So the Meng can argue it was a small subgroup of traitors, accept help in vigorously purging those, and then continue being a Count clan instead of getting Chu'd.
 
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Yeah, Meng Dan coming to the Cai (through their vassal Ling Qi) at the first sign of trouble, and the clan representative at the Ducal court going from 0 to 100 to deal with the situation in no time flat, are going to provide lot of weight to any "small rogue faction" arguments.
And even the Bai are probably going to accept this is an appropriate response.
Killing a sovereign, and potentially hundreds of their followers, is a powerful message.
 
Can someone explain to me what LQ is doing here (besides surviving)? The whole idea of hanging around in the Liminal (instead of getting out after delivering the General) was built on LQ somehow "supporting" the General, IIRC. Is that "supporting" happening passively? Is it yet to happen?
 
LockedMind said:
Can someone explain to me what LQ is doing here (besides surviving)? The whole idea of hanging around in the Liminal (instead of getting out after delivering the General) was built on LQ somehow "supporting" the General, IIRC. Is that "supporting" happening passively? Is it yet to happen?
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My understanding is that the general is antithetical to the liminal, and LQ needs to hang around to keep her in there. On her own, she'd just pop out.
 
LockedMind said:
Can someone explain to me what LQ is doing here (besides surviving)? The whole idea of hanging around in the Liminal (instead of getting out after delivering the General) was built on LQ somehow "supporting" the General, IIRC. Is that "supporting" happening passively? Is it yet to happen?
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Yes, she's keeping the General on the battlefield with her dreamwalking ability.
 
Yep, Ling Qi is basically anchoring the General's stay in the liminal, else the collateral damage in "real space" would be unacceptably massive. Also, obviously there's the surprise factor to it since everyone should know the General cannot use the liminal as a battleground normally, and even if she manages it, it likely means tying down another major force like Shu Yue to the task of 'merely' collateral damage control.
 
TimEd said:
Yep, Ling Qi is basically anchoring the General's stay in the liminal, else the collateral damage in "real space" would be unacceptably massive. Also, obviously there's the surprise factor to it since everyone should know the General cannot use the liminal as a battleground normally, and even if she manages it, it likely means tying down another major force like Shu Yue to the task of 'merely' collateral damage control.
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Now let's be fair, Shu Yue's the one footing the bill in term of spending qi to keep Xia Ren in the liminal, they're channeling it through that hair they put on Qi's pinky. The qi expense would be enormous enough to empty out Ling Qi's reserves way too quickly otherwise. Practically speaking, Ling Qi provides only the technique itelf, not the energy to pay for it (which means she's able to use her other techniques to avoid dying from being in proximity to two Sovereigns duking it out and not being able to run away because that would cause Xia ren to return to the material).
 
I'd just like to say how INCREDIBLY FUCKING LUCKY we were that the MoI rep and Cao Chun rep was just high enough that he let Ling Qi contact Meng Diu about this catastrophe.
Imagine if the first the main body of the Meng Clan heard about this was a bunch of their people dying horribly and the Duchess' pet monster General rocking up to the Labyrinth and accusing them of treason.
 
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Valmond said:
Yeah, Meng Dan coming to the Cai (through their vassal Ling Qi) at the first sign of trouble, and the clan representative at the Ducal court going from 0 to 100 to deal with the situation in no time flat, are going to provide lot of weight to any "small rogue faction" arguments.
And even the Bai are probably going to accept this is an appropriate response.
Killing a sovereign, and potentially hundreds of their followers, is a powerful message.
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Obviously anyone who knows Ling Qi will know this is all completely genuine and yada yada, etc, etc.

But I wonder whether anyone will get passed on a semi-garbled version of Meng factions, and the fact that Ling Qi's supported faction is likely to rise up in prominence, and start suspecting the kind of paranoid nonsense that some Cultivators go for.

Karthak Urzak said:
I'd just like to say how INCREDIBLY FUCKING LUCKY we were that the MoI rep and Cao Chun rep was just high enough that he let Ling Qi contact Meng Diu about this catastrophe.
Imagine if the first the main body of the Meng Clan heard about this was a bunch of their people dying horribly and the Duchess' pet monster General rocking up to the Labyrinth and accusing them of treason.
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It's kinda funny that she has two pet monsters, per se. Like, if you said, "The Duchess' pet monster" MOI-types would go, "Ah yes, Shu Yue" while less, er, Imperial sorts would go, "Oh, you mean the General."
 
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