Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)

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A thought just hit me. Right now among our most potent cultivation sites, Zeqing's place, Origin Temple of Winter's Muse, is one of the most potent and useful for training our Dark and Music Arts. So if we're assuming that we have a limited amount of time to spend with Zeqing, specifically after we take her SL (and hypothetically adopt Hanyi), does that mean, we can only use that site for so long within the two year mark and thus we have to look for another site for Music? (or will Zeqing restrain herself till 2 years have passed)
We do have an amazing map to look for good sites. So I am not to worried. We might have to eat some actions looking but I am sure that we can find something that will mitigate the lost of Zeqing's site if we do lose it. I don't believe that we will but I am not worried either way.
 
It took quite awhile but I've finally finish binge reading both threads to reach here. This is a great story and now I'm properly invested in Ling Qi's adventures @yrsillar
 
We do have an amazing map to look for good sites. So I am not to worried. We might have to eat some actions looking but I am sure that we can find something that will mitigate the lost of Zeqing's site if we do lose it. I don't believe that we will but I am not worried either way.

Wonder who we're going to go with next (assuming it's not Shen Hu again). :whistle: Maybe we ought to look for Fire for both Zhengui and Xiulan.

I don't know if it's gonna affect the amount of AP in our plan, but we're probably gonna be busy next month since Outer Sect is hitting Thunderdome soon. Xiao Fen is soon gonna occupy one of our SL and we may or may not have the ability to pull some strings in OS. In the off chance I see something that'll increase Gan Guangli's chances in the tournament (like say, a SL that'll most probably never show up this year), I'm immediately investing in that, I want him to win.
 
[X][FVM] Even if hardship and tribulation litter your path, it has worth if you have somewhere to return at the end.
[X][FSS] The end comes for all things, without exception. In accepting this, you are freed.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by 1986ctcel on Feb 28, 2019 at 11:45 AM, finished with 302 posts and 128 votes.
 
Wonder who we're going to go with next (assuming it's not Shen Hu again). :whistle: Maybe we ought to look for Fire for both Zhengui and Xiulan.

I don't know if it's gonna affect the amount of AP in our plan, but we're probably gonna be busy next month since Outer Sect is hitting Thunderdome soon. Xiao Fen is soon gonna occupy one of our SL and we may or may not have the ability to pull some strings in OS. In the off chance I see something that'll increase Gan Guangli's chances in the tournament (like say, a SL that'll most probably never show up this year), I'm immediately investing in that, I want him to win.
Thunderdome is going to be interesting this year. So many stabilitizing elements.
 
[X][FVM] Even if hardship and tribulation litter your path, it has worth if you have somewhere to return at the end.
[X][FSS] All things End, but one does not need to think of endings to live(No slot)
 
[x][FSS] There are endings and Endings, only the very last one is final. Just as winter ends in spring, small endings are new beginnings.
[x][FVM] Though a path might be hard and lonely, it has worth if you can present something of beauty to those you care for at the end.
 
[X][FVM] Though a path might be hard and lonely, it has worth if you can present something of beauty to those you care for at the end.
[X][FSS] The end comes for all things, without exception. In accepting this, you are freed.


Realized I forgot to actually vote. Completely lost track of discussion and time's running out, so I'm just going with the two I liked most when the update went live.
 
[x][FSS] There are endings and Endings, only the very last one is final. Just as winter ends in spring, small endings are new beginnings.
[x][FVM] Though a path might be hard and lonely, it has worth if you can present something of beauty to those you care for at the end.
 
Well, making a tally as it's been two hours.

EDIT: I am slow
Adhoc vote count started by Arkeus on Feb 28, 2019 at 1:45 PM, finished with 309 posts and 132 votes.
 
It'll be fantastic when we meet Xiao Fen astride Zhengui. Just, thinking of tutoring Xiao Fen atop a Xuanwu would be hilarious.

She probably already knows that we have a Xuanwu, but knowing and understanding is completely different things. There's also Sixiang, who will take endless delight in causing a mess of things. Especially since she can talk now.

It will be fantastic!
 
It'll be fantastic when we meet Xiao Fen astride Zhengui. Just, thinking of tutoring Xiao Fen atop a Xuanwu would be hilarious.
I know I've said this before, but I can't wait to see Ling Qi as a tutor. Not just her teaching methods, but also Xiao Fen seeing all the Outer Sect disciples still suffering from PLQD reacting to Ling Qi's presence, and the viper girl realizing that her mistress's best friend, and her tutor for the foreseeable future, is actually some sort of nightmare terror-beast of abyssal mists and cheery tunes.

It's gonna be great.
 
A thought just hit me. Right now among our most potent cultivation sites, Zeqing's place, Origin Temple of Winter's Muse, is one of the most potent and useful for training our Dark and Music Arts. So if we're assuming that we have a limited amount of time to spend with Zeqing, specifically after we take her SL (and hypothetically adopt Hanyi), does that mean, we can only use that site for so long within the two year mark and thus we have to look for another site for Music? (or will Zeqing restrain herself till 2 years have passed)
Once Hanyi leaves its safeish. Right now Hanyi is TOO much Hers. She's compelled to either sever ties or make Hanyi forever hers.
 
Domain

Domain Rank G
(194/600)

Effects:

(Base)Allies in a scene with whom Ling Qi has at least four ranks of positive relation receive a 10 point bonus to spiritual avoid and armor, and a 5 point bonus resolve and composure
-Ling Qi receives a 10 point bonus to Social Perception when attempting to discern lies or see through illusions.

[][FVM] Though a path might be hard and lonely, it has worth if you can present something of beauty to those you care for at the end.

[][FSS] There are endings and Endings, only the very last one is final. Just as winter ends in spring, small endings are new beginnings.

It might be nice to see the first two Domain insights Ling Qi has also stated in the same way these last two were, if only so we can better judge about compatibility for future insights.
 
It might be nice to see the first two Domain insights Ling Qi has also stated in the same way these last two were, if only so we can better judge about compatibility for future insights.

I kind of like domain insights being more vague. I think that makes the vote trend more towards what themes we actually want from Ling Qi and less towards 'this reward is mechanically better because no person can balance a game system perfectly'.
 
I kind of like domain insights being more vague. I think that makes the vote trend more towards what themes we actually want from Ling Qi and less towards 'this reward is mechanically better because no person can balance a game system perfectly'.
Pretty sure @DeAnno meant he wants to see our first two slots (Home and Argent Mirror) in a more narrative style than their current mechanical style, not vice versa.
 
So, we are likely going to get SES4 and HDW4 this incoming update in a few hours. If @yrsillar follows the current pattern, we are also going to be able to see what SES5 and HDW5 gives, letting us know if we want to master then while in foundation.

For the record, here is what SES1 and HDW1 gives:
Storm Enduring Seedling said:
A song written by a musician of the capital, chronicling his observance of a seedling growing from a storm wracked cliff. Its struggling roots clung to weak soil, and though it teetered many times, it never fell, growing tall and strong until its roots could burrow into the very mountain rock itself.

Potency: Green 1
Potency Growth: Green 2(3), Green 3(5)
Max Level: 5
Needed Meridians:Spinex2(1), Spine(3), Spine(4), Spine(5)
Keywords: Composure, Music, Perseverance, Resist, Resilience, Resolve, Wood, Yang
Experience: 100, 150, 250, 350, 500

Passives:
+10 to Resist
+10 to Spiritual Armor

Intractable Roots: D
A short piece full of stubborn obstinance, this technique significantly bolsters the users Resist against a single dispel attempt. Even if the dispel succeeds, unless it exceeds the users resist by at least a full rank, the technique dispelled persists until the users next action.

Heaven Scarred Trunk: C
Duration: Short
Extending the short piece into a full stanza, the musician refuses to be moved. The user gains G rank Damage Reduction against purely Spiritual Arts, and reduces the effects of any spiritual debuffs targeting them for the duration.
Harmony of the Dancing Wind said:
Potency: Green 1
Potency Growth: Green 2(3), Green 3(5)
Max Level 5
Needed Meridians: Head x2, Heart x1(1), Heart(3), Head(5)
Keywords: Connections, Empathy, Presence, Perceptiveness, Manipulation, Music, Wind, Yang
Experience: 100, 150, 200, 300, 400

There lies a beauty in patterns, of spirits and men alike. This melody exults in the complex dance of winds which brings us weather and the seasons, and in doing, teaches the musician to see and pluck at the lesser patterns and connections in the world around. The harmony reveals the web which connects all things, if the players eyes are but sharp enough to see.

Passives
+10 to Social Perception
+5 to Combat Perception
+5 to Spiritual Hit
+5 to Spiritual Avoid

Spring Breeze Canto: D
Duration: Long
This ephemeral melody rings out with the vital curiosity of youth, The melody carries the musician's perception among her listeners, allowing her to clearly hear and see any one of them, regardless of distractions, so long as the songs echoes last

Summer's Day Rising: D
Duration: Short
This piece, embodying the optimism and hope, speaks to the musician's bond with her listeners. Even the tenuous bond of casual acquaintance thrums with new vitality, bolstering allies against spiritual attacks and deceptions. Those of stronger bond are bolstered still further, buoyed by their connection with the musician.
Now, the questions I want to pose to the thread (because I love theorycrafting) are what your theories about both the level of power we can expect for them, the kind of power we can expect from them, and how effective those would be for our build.

First, it appears SES should either be slightly stonger than HDW (needs more successes), as well as have a stronger focus on what it gives (single-type meridians, less types of passives). If I was to compare powerwise between our arts while in appraisal, I would say FSS > SCS/FVM > TRF > HDW/SES (not counting PLR/AE, though I think those should probably be around FSS-tier). The reason I put FSS above SCS/FVM is not only how core FSS is to Zeqing compared to SCS/FVM to their likely creator, but also because SCS/FVM still seems to have 'space' left in appraisal, and I wouldn't be surprised if SCS+ begins in appraisal, for example, while I suspect FSS+ begins in foundation.

My personal guess is that HDW4/SES4 would basically be the equivalent of a TRF6 that lack TRU, with their own capstone appearing in foundation.

SES-wise, I expect the levels to both increase the resist and resilience of the first two techs, but that the third tech to be about the 'growing tall in adversity' theme within it's art description. Not sure how that would translate, but maybe some kind of "If we are hurt or debuff by spiritual arts, we actually get bonus to our own spiritual art and resist".

HDW-wise, I expect the levels to both make our 'sight of people who hear our music' better, likely giving us their derived stats and numbers of meridians opened, as well as Summer's Day rising having a dispel that's boosted by our Music and Connection. As for its third tech, I am thinking something offensive, buoying our allies' hit and penetration, the greater the effect the better our music and connections are (to fit the s.hit passive).
 
So, we are likely going to get SES4 and HDW4 this incoming update in a few hours. If @yrsillar follows the current pattern, we are also going to be able to see what SES5 and HDW5 gives, letting us know if we want to master then while in foundation.

For the record, here is what SES1 and HDW1 gives:


Now, the questions I want to pose to the thread (because I love theorycrafting) are what your theories about both the level of power we can expect for them, the kind of power we can expect from them, and how effective those would be for our build.

First, it appears SES should either be slightly stonger than HDW (needs more successes), as well as have a stronger focus on what it gives (single-type meridians, less types of passives). If I was to compare powerwise between our arts while in appraisal, I would say FSS > SCS/FVM > TRF > HDW/SES (not counting PLR/AE, though I think those should probably be around FSS-tier). The reason I put FSS above SCS/FVM is not only how core FSS is to Zeqing compared to SCS/FVM to their likely creator, but also because SCS/FVM still seems to have 'space' left in appraisal, and I wouldn't be surprised if SCS+ begins in appraisal, for example, while I suspect FSS+ begins in foundation.

My personal guess is that HDW4/SES4 would basically be the equivalent of a TRF6 that lack TRU, with their own capstone appearing in foundation.

SES-wise, I expect the levels to both increase the resist and resilience of the first two techs, but that the third tech to be about the 'growing tall in adversity' theme within it's art description. Not sure how that would translate, but maybe some kind of "If we are hurt or debuff by spiritual arts, we actually get bonus to our own spiritual art and resist".

HDW-wise, I expect the levels to both make our 'sight of people who hear our music' better, likely giving us their derived stats and numbers of meridians opened, as well as Summer's Day rising having a dispel that's boosted by our Music and Connection. As for its third tech, I am thinking something offensive, buoying our allies' hit and penetration, the greater the effect the better our music and connections are (to fit the s.hit passive).

So the last line of SES "growing tall and strong until its roots could burrow into the very mountain rock itself," is very interesting to me. To me this sounds almost like an offensive tech. While I doubt that this theoretical offesive tech will be the capstone since SES seems very defensive in nature I imagine that it could involve breaking apart enemy defensive techs.
Or it could be about getting sustenance (hoping it's qi) from anywhere. All in all, I am looking forward to all the defensive techs that will help us get to the climax of our new and improve songs.

With HDW it talks about seeing the connections between people and things in the world. However these first few arts are about plucking on those connections to create amazing results. So one of the arts that I am looking forward to is an art that reveals different connections between people and things, perhaps a line that grows thicker the deeper that connection is. I am truly hoping that it can also reveal the connection between nonliving things. That would allow us to see perhaps what books work with what. Where an egg shell's nest was and a variety of different tracking things. The most amazing thing I could hope for with HDW is for it's capstone tech to treat allies as one relationship higher for the purposes of arts. Hopeful that will allow our domain to reach more people for a short time and really expand our domains power.

I am almost vibrating with excitement waiting for this update. Seeing new techs that YRS and trying to figure out how to best use them is one of my favorite things in this quest.

Edit:
So just realized that SES is all spine so.... that offensive art is extremely unlikely. Now I am hoping for gaining more qi regen but I doubt that would be a capstone art. Unless it's a massive amount of qi.
 
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