Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)
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[X] Plan: Professionally Golden
-[X][Personal] Golden Roads
-[X][Professional] Western Marches
-[X][Professional] Imperial Menagerie
-[X][Professional] A Land Most Dark and Cruel
-[X][Cultivation] Four Winds Joy (9/5 AD, Cathedral of Winds -1GS)
-[X][Cultivation] Ice and Dust (13/4 Saline Grotto -1GS)
-[X][Cultivation] Primacy of Beasts (7/3 Shattered Gaol +10 spiritual)
[X] Plan: Beyond Golden
-[X][Personal] Golden Roads
-[X][Professional] Western Marches
-[X][Professional] Imperial Menagerie
-[X][Professional] A Land Most Dark and Cruel
-[X][Cultivation] Four Winds Joy (8/5, Shattered Gaol, +10 Spiritual)
-[X][Cultivation] Ice and Dust (11/4)
-[X][Cultivation] It's Depths Without End (6/3, Saline Grotto)
[X] Plan: Road to Hidden Secrets
[X] Plan: Cold Commiseration and Creature Comforts
-[X][Personal] Golden Roads
-[X][Professional] Western Marches
-[X][Professional] Imperial Menagerie
-[X][Professional] A Land Most Dark and Cruel
-[X][Cultivation] Four Winds Joy (9/5 AD, Cathedral of Winds -1GS)
-[X][Cultivation] Ice and Dust (13/4 Saline Grotto -1GS)
-[X][Cultivation] Primacy of Beasts (7/3 Shattered Gaol +10 spiritual)
[X] Plan: Beyond Golden
-[X][Personal] Golden Roads
-[X][Professional] Western Marches
-[X][Professional] Imperial Menagerie
-[X][Professional] A Land Most Dark and Cruel
-[X][Cultivation] Four Winds Joy (8/5, Shattered Gaol, +10 Spiritual)
-[X][Cultivation] Ice and Dust (11/4)
-[X][Cultivation] It's Depths Without End (6/3, Saline Grotto)
[X] Plan: Road to Hidden Secrets
[X] Plan: Cold Commiseration and Creature Comforts
This sudden surge of It's Depths Without End due to the new Stars and Spheres action has me scratching my head.
Sure, Starless Night Reflection, well, reflects a night sky without stars. Is that enough to link it with the retainer action?
Don't get me wrong, I like SNR and want to finish it and eventually make our defensive successor art at least partially out of it.
I like that it uses the typically selfish, greedy darkness element to protect others. I like the philosophical musings the art contains, very in line with Ling Qi's Hidden Moon side, and I definitely want to increase the Void concept. I like the aesthetic of attacks vanishing into a black shroud, highly compatible with Ling Qi's dark winter night motif.
But this doesn't strike me as the right time to advance the art.
The starbeasts and the void demons aren't something "forgotten", they are very much active. It's just that the Empire hasn't had contact with them.
The main subject of Star and Spheres are going to be the auroras. But those aren't something that "lies beyond". Quite the opposite, actually. We just learnt that they come from within.
I believe pairing it with Hidden Scribe would be far more satisfying. After Xin's teasing about bringing the silver map with us during Hidden Scribe, it's safe to assume we are going to uncover and explore some ancient, forgotten location full of secrets and mysteries.
You can't tell me it doesn't resonates mightly with It's Depths Without End
In any case, It's Depths Without End only fits Stars and Spheres, though I disagree with that as you would have guessed.
Primacy of Beasts theme of the nature of war, on the other hand, applies to the Summit as whole as well as all three of the Professional actions and also to Stars and Spheres.
First we have Sun Liling, granddaughter of The Butcher, a white Sovereign of War. She is coming with a regiment of soldiers while the Western Territories's army is being mustered and movilized in a scale not seen in centuries. To better understand their intentions, we would do well to deepen our comprehension of what drives them to war.
We also have Imperial Menagerie, a meeting of the representatives of the most powerful clans of the Empire who have a tendency to fight against each other quite a bit. The purpose of the meeting is precisely to avoid conflict from sparking among them and with the White Sky. So it would be of great help to ponder why even peers of the same empire are so prone to war with each other.
Then there is A Land Dark and Cruel, the last of the White Sky's political actions. Here we make deeper contact with the one WS's faction that explicitly doesn't like us and has a history o conflict with the Red Garden. Coincidentally, the granddaughter of the new ruler of the Red Garden is joining the Summit and Sun Shao is towards the South. It's easy to see how the Pines could feel threatend and how that would sparka conflict. We need to acknowledge those fears and how anger, hate and greed aren't the only fuels for war.
Finally, the Voiddemons and the Starbeasts wager an inherent conflict with reality just by existing. A lot of the Polar Nation culture and identity is based in the noble duty of warring against them in order to protect the world. Even if that duty can be twisted into terrible deeds as we saw in the story of the Iron King. Is war something truly intrinsic to life?
Ling Qi's primary purpose in the Summit is to avoid an unnecessary war, and all the suffering it would bring. That's the core of all her actions leadind up to this point. What better moment to explore why is it even so hard to stop further warring when it would be beneficial for everyone that in the last stretch previous to the Summit proper?
Honestly, this is the perfect moment to do Primacy of Beasts. I can't think of any other time when it would fit so well, providing a cohesive overaching theme for the entire turn: the nature of war.
Sure, Starless Night Reflection, well, reflects a night sky without stars. Is that enough to link it with the retainer action?
Don't get me wrong, I like SNR and want to finish it and eventually make our defensive successor art at least partially out of it.
I like that it uses the typically selfish, greedy darkness element to protect others. I like the philosophical musings the art contains, very in line with Ling Qi's Hidden Moon side, and I definitely want to increase the Void concept. I like the aesthetic of attacks vanishing into a black shroud, highly compatible with Ling Qi's dark winter night motif.
But this doesn't strike me as the right time to advance the art.
The starbeasts and the void demons aren't something "forgotten", they are very much active. It's just that the Empire hasn't had contact with them.
The main subject of Star and Spheres are going to be the auroras. But those aren't something that "lies beyond". Quite the opposite, actually. We just learnt that they come from within.
I believe pairing it with Hidden Scribe would be far more satisfying. After Xin's teasing about bringing the silver map with us during Hidden Scribe, it's safe to assume we are going to uncover and explore some ancient, forgotten location full of secrets and mysteries.
You can't tell me it doesn't resonates mightly with It's Depths Without End
In any case, It's Depths Without End only fits Stars and Spheres, though I disagree with that as you would have guessed.
Primacy of Beasts theme of the nature of war, on the other hand, applies to the Summit as whole as well as all three of the Professional actions and also to Stars and Spheres.
First we have Sun Liling, granddaughter of The Butcher, a white Sovereign of War. She is coming with a regiment of soldiers while the Western Territories's army is being mustered and movilized in a scale not seen in centuries. To better understand their intentions, we would do well to deepen our comprehension of what drives them to war.
We also have Imperial Menagerie, a meeting of the representatives of the most powerful clans of the Empire who have a tendency to fight against each other quite a bit. The purpose of the meeting is precisely to avoid conflict from sparking among them and with the White Sky. So it would be of great help to ponder why even peers of the same empire are so prone to war with each other.
Then there is A Land Dark and Cruel, the last of the White Sky's political actions. Here we make deeper contact with the one WS's faction that explicitly doesn't like us and has a history o conflict with the Red Garden. Coincidentally, the granddaughter of the new ruler of the Red Garden is joining the Summit and Sun Shao is towards the South. It's easy to see how the Pines could feel threatend and how that would sparka conflict. We need to acknowledge those fears and how anger, hate and greed aren't the only fuels for war.
Finally, the Voiddemons and the Starbeasts wager an inherent conflict with reality just by existing. A lot of the Polar Nation culture and identity is based in the noble duty of warring against them in order to protect the world. Even if that duty can be twisted into terrible deeds as we saw in the story of the Iron King. Is war something truly intrinsic to life?
Ling Qi's primary purpose in the Summit is to avoid an unnecessary war, and all the suffering it would bring. That's the core of all her actions leadind up to this point. What better moment to explore why is it even so hard to stop further warring when it would be beneficial for everyone that in the last stretch previous to the Summit proper?
Honestly, this is the perfect moment to do Primacy of Beasts. I can't think of any other time when it would fit so well, providing a cohesive overaching theme for the entire turn: the nature of war.
[X] Plan: Professional Primacy
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- United States of America
[X] Plan: Professional Primacy
- Location
- Philippines
[X] Plan: What Lies Beyond
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Quick question. Will someone provide 1-2 omake points (depending on the winning plan) to double up Four Winds Joy?
CedeTheBees
Probably high right now
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@EternalObserver I'll put 2 of my points on Four Winds Joy if What Lies Beyond wins.
@EternalObserver Then I guess I'll put one of mine if Professional Primacy wins instead.
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[X] Plan: What Lies Beyond
EternalObserver
eYe Gaze baCk
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Ah yes, gotta make things conditional even tho Four Winds is in those two plans anyways 😅
Shh... Let the bidding war begin
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I respect the hustle lol, playing strategic with omake points in a vote isn't something I've ever seen before but I like the idea.
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And here I come to ruin that!
@EternalObserver whichever plan wins I'll throw however many points I can at whatever projects need them to get doubled or at least contribute to their doubling.
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Sorry, but the only one that needed omake points for doubling was Four Winds Joy and Cede/Doramas already covered it both ways.
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But there are other plans and still plenty of time to vote! So here I go voting for plans that I like that aren't the top two!
[X] Plan: Boundaries Untrodden
[X] Who are you, in the dark
[X] Plan: Beyond beasts
And just to be even more of a contrarian here are some new plans!
[X] Plan: Physical Gains!
-[X][Personal] House of Ling
-[X][Professional] Western Marches
-[X][Professional] Imperial Menagerie
-[X][Professional] A Land Most Dark and Cruel
-[X][Cultivation] Four Winds Joy (8/5, Shattered Gaol, +10 Spiritual)
-[X][Cultivation] Winter's Crown (11/4)
-[X][Cultivation] Grinning Wind (9/8, Aregent Vent or Silent Stones)
That's right we've been slacking off! Have any of you looked at how our spiritual and physical cultivation looks? Of course you haven't! If you had then we'd be pumping that physical train! Look how week and noodly our arms are right now. Do you expect us to get respect from the White Sky with noodle arms? Of course not! They've got warrior woman out the wazoo over there! We gotta get them gains! If we do Grinning Wind and Winter's Crown that's 80 extra physical XP!
[X] Plan: Cold Commiseration and Creature Comforts (minus the comforts)
-[X][Personal] House of Ling
-[X][Professional] Western Marches
-[X][Professional] Imperial Menagerie
-[X] [Professional] A Land Dark and Cruel
-[X][Cultivation] Four Winds Joy (9/5 AD, Cathedral of Winds -1GSS)
-[X][Cultivation] Primacy of Beasts (9/3 Shattered Gaol +10 spiritual)
-[X] [Cultivation] Winter's Crown
That's right, I stole someone else's plans and just took out Golden Roads and replaced it with Western Marches! Why? Because the Summit needs to succeed and EXCEED anyone's expectations and to do that we need all the cards we can get. Then why do House of Ling instead of Golden Roads? Because getting our household in order is more important than following up on our side business projects in my opinion (sorry Hanyi and Zhengui).
Now go forth thread! Go forth and vote for all the plans you want knowing that even if I don't like your plan I will back it with Omake points!
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Alright, since the leading plans are almost identical, I'm going to offer a compromise plan:
[X] Plan: Beyond beasts
-[X][Personal] House of Ling
-[X][Professional] Western Marches
-[X][Professional] Imperial Menagerie
-[X][Professional] A Land Most Dark and Cruel
-[X][Cultivation] Four Winds Joy (9/5, AD Shattered Gaol, +10 Spiritual)
-[X][Cultivation] Primacy of Beasts (9/3 Greater Argent vent +10% success)
-[X][Cultivation] It's Depths Without End (6/3, Saline Grotto -1 GS)
let me explain before burning me at the stake about the lack of FFS: We won't have obvious hooks to it's depths without Ends / Lake hei is wide often, and Primacy of War on contact with the West seems like a given. I have no doubt we'll have opportunities to explore power a ton during the summit itself, so I'll advocate for a double FFS turn for the summit, both so we can get it done and because I'm hoping it'll uncover the trait quest that was gated behind soul of ice until this turn.
(I still like [X] Plan: What Lies Beyond though)
[X] Plan: Beyond beasts
-[X][Personal] House of Ling
-[X][Professional] Western Marches
-[X][Professional] Imperial Menagerie
-[X][Professional] A Land Most Dark and Cruel
-[X][Cultivation] Four Winds Joy (9/5, AD Shattered Gaol, +10 Spiritual)
-[X][Cultivation] Primacy of Beasts (9/3 Greater Argent vent +10% success)
-[X][Cultivation] It's Depths Without End (6/3, Saline Grotto -1 GS)
let me explain before burning me at the stake about the lack of FFS: We won't have obvious hooks to it's depths without Ends / Lake hei is wide often, and Primacy of War on contact with the West seems like a given. I have no doubt we'll have opportunities to explore power a ton during the summit itself, so I'll advocate for a double FFS turn for the summit, both so we can get it done and because I'm hoping it'll uncover the trait quest that was gated behind soul of ice until this turn.
(I still like [X] Plan: What Lies Beyond though)
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SleepyCaterpilar
Just a Rapariga
[X] Plan: Cold Commiseration and Creature Comforts (minus the comforts)
Lady_Story
Humble Teller of Stories, Villainess of Legend
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I've been told that primacy should win by discord because war is more important than secrets and since I'm not really going to peek my head out outside of interludes going forward... go for primacy if you like war, go for WLB if you like secrets. Go for the others if you like the moon who grins!