Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)

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Ling Qi met Su Ling's eyes. For that single moment, it is as if she can see the thoughts turning in her friend's mind.

"Like-" Ling Qi began.

"-Hell," Su Ling growled.

"Eh?" said the ghost, expression twisted in confusion
It is not often that Qi is in perfect sync with her friends. But then this sort of moment is the stuff of legend and I guess the Liminal's helping it along.

Ling Qi did not need the reminder to run, to flee as fast as her feet could carry her. She tried for her wings, but they did not answer, her dress was still.

Little children couldn't fly, little beggars did not have fine dresses. What fairy tale did she dream?

Ling Qi's heart thundered in her chest, her bare feet cold on the frost touched grass. The trees seemed so tall now, their shadows so deep. Her lungs burned, her breaths rasped, tears filled her eyes. Because she was alone, save for the one who hunted behind. Just a ragged beggar girl who had wandered too far, never to be missed, never to be found.
I imagine a Ling Qi who chose Total Freedom at Yellow would not have been bound so.
But then that Qi would not have been here at all. She would have flown free, without friends already.
Except, except. Wasn't there a hand in hers?

At Ling Qi's core was darkness, a want so deep that she knew in her heart of hearts, would never be filled. It was desperation and hunger and privation, the desolation of the soul, the death of higher thought and all the things that made a person more than a thing. If a single petty human word could be applied, it was Isolation.

But she had wrapped herself in so many other things. Most of all the grasping, yearning wind. Hers was not the open blue sky of limitless freedom, the emptiness that accepted no chains. Hers was the blizzard howl, tugging at shutters, begging to be let in.

Her wind was the wind of Want. A greedy, grasping wind for a greedy, grasping girl.

Desire, the desire for more, the desire for the aching to stop, to be warm by the fire for just a little while. Want was the soul reaching out, the impetus of connection, the abrogation of Isolation, the seed of Community and Home.

Ling Qi is not the little beggar girl. She holds her friend's hand in hers. She does not die alone in the snow, cherishing a warmth she can never hold. Her dream asserts itself.

A blizzard erupts, mist and snow and cold, and a lightless fire burns at the core, rejecting the dream of desolation.
Hmm, I don't think this part is even a deliberate trap, but rather the nature of the place. The Fox is born in Isolation and Want, but has dug deeply, while Qi has started to pull herself from the darkness.
Want advances to III
Want III- Want is the soul reaching out, the impetus of connection, the abrogation of Isolation, the seed of Community and Home.

Home advances to I
Home I: Home is is a binding, woven with each breath

Effect added to Domain
Spiritual Defense Potency is increased by 2 against Isolation effects
Desire is the answer to Isolation. The nature of a vacuum is to fill itself.
The Home is the cure to Isolation. You cannot just grasp at that which is others and stuff it into the void. It never lasts.

You need to nurture it.

Behind her, she hears Su Ling murmuring under her breath, between breaths.

"...no truth but what you carve. No justice but what you hold, no meaning but what you make. Reject oneness, reject enlightenment, be one of many, accept the world's bounty."

Something sparks in her meridians, something heavy and coarse and solid, and Ling Qi can feel its conflict with the realm they now stand in. The qi she is trying to cycle struggles to even maintain form.
Mountain qi's solidity does interact weird with the fuzziness of reality in the Liminal.
I don't think forcing it would work, unless she developed an insight here regarding Mountain qi?
Ling Qi understands at that moment why those shadows frighten her, when she has long been their kin. This darkness does not want to be filled, it is a hunger without end, a stomach with no bottom, it is something beyond her greed, it was born wrong, with a wasting rot in its soul. It suffers and this has made it cruel.
The endless devourer. One who gorges upon food, never to be full, only to taste it.
Was the rot something right becoming twisted, or a deliberately engineered corruption as a work of perverse art?
Ling Qi grimaces, preferring to pretend she hadn't heard the hoarse whisper her friends voice had dropped into. I don't know if i-" she mumbled thoughts racing. Some application of the Opened Vault technique maybe? The concept was there, the theft of a precious thing, no matter the vault, but she had only just begun to master the technique, to do something so far beyond its purview was-

"Not likely to work," Sixiang whispered voice tinged with fear. "I dunno, maybe I can help, I could try to dig my hands in fray the connection, but-"

Time, time, precious time. Did they have time to play and experiment and try?

"Set us down a second," Su Ling said grimly.

She glanced back at her friend, a frantic question in her eyes.

"I may not be good for much, but I know how to Cut," Su Ling said, the last word spat like a curse that splits a branch from a passing tree. "Sometimes that's all you need to solve a problem."
This is the moment where Su Ling Quest had the option for:
[] Let Ling Qi take the risk and Open the Vault
[] Face it yourself. Cut the ties that bind.
Su Ling's saber appears in her hand, unsheathed, the crimson cloth tassel that hangs from its hilt flutters in the wind. "Look… Xisheng, just hold still, alright, we'll get going againin a second."

The ghosts head tilts blood welling up around her neck to stain dirty clothes. "Oh. I don't like this part. But I like you better than Momma, okay!"

Su Ling grits her teeth so hard Ling Qi swears she hears something crack, but there is no time for a back and forth and she knows it.
On one hand, being killed like that is horrible to inflict upon a child.
On the other hand, Xisheng has personally experienced many worse deaths.

On the third tail, she's not wrong, as we see later. Cutting the bond kills the spirit. Just more slowly than directly doing so.
"You don't belong here, or to her," Su Ling says, and her qi surges, sharp edged, metallic. Ling Qi sees her eyes mist over, becoming pools of liquid steel. "My blade is Truth."

Air parts around the edge with a soft sigh, the earth splits, and Ling Qi feels an invisible chain sever with an angry shriek.

Xisheng blinks, looking down at themselves in curious wonder, their features a blur of a dozen faces.
Hmm, the last time we saw this technique it was Mountain based, but now its Metal or Sword qi?
Quiet wind blew through the nocturnal forest, playing a song of leaf and branch and moaning lonely wind. Ling Qi could sense the writhing of the threads of the liminal, the reshaping of the reality that lay beneath the skein that was visible under the eyes.

Su Ling stiffened, sensing Ling Qi's distress and quickly following her gaze. She went still when she saw those eyes.

The trees bent away from the shadows, twisting and moaning like mourners as the forest began to melt and run like watercolor paints splashed by rain. Yet, what emerged from the darkness didn't seem monstrous. It wholly shredded expectations. No padding fox and whipping tails and frothy hungry maw, no sumptuous temptress of dark silks and painted beauty. None of the images that this creature's legend had conjured in her mind appeared.
Dramatic...and all too pat.
An entrance befitting a master of glamors.
A gnarled cane tapped the ground, the shuffle and drag of elderly feet, made uneven by age and injury. Fraying sandals, a shapeless roughspun dress and slightly hunched back covered by a pale grey shawl. Her face was a mass of wrinkles, and her skin as rough as old boot-leather, thin white hair clung to her head,wispy and dry, pulled back in a tight bun.

She had the air of one whom life had chewed up over and over, until naught but sinew, gristle and spite remained, a woman whose age had robbed her of fear and propriety alike.

"Don't you fucking dare," Su Ling whispered, it was a strangeled, hateful noise, shaky with rage.

Gimlet eyes squinted in the melting darkness, firelight growing as a hearth was painted from nothing. Dirt and grass molded into rough wooden planks and woven straw mats, the night sky began to bleed into rafters and straw. But on the wall forming behind the old woman, the twisting shadows of tails appear, they weave through and among each other, too swiftly and chaotically to count.

"Damn rude way to greet your grandmother isn't it," said the fox. "Coming unannounced, and stealing the gristle from the trash. Fool girl. I always told you, if you're hungry just ask."
Oh man, this form is chosen to maximize pain. Its dramatic as hell, but its chosen for pure emotional pain infliction rather than likelihood of success.
"Don't even try it," Su Ling said, pointing her saber. Ling Qi winced, knowing this wasn't something that could be opposed by force. "Think I'm supposed to fall for this shit, are you gonna say you were Gran all along?"

"If'n I was," considered the thing wearing the face of an old woman. "How do you figure you'd know, girl? Think a blind kit's eyes can pierce past her mother's arts?"
For one, spirits find it incredibly hard to disguise their nature. If they behave other than their nature, they will become so in truth, at least in a fraction of them.
The fox smiled, and the teeth were black and rotten. "I taught you didn't I, how humans are. Keep 'em scared else they run out on the bill. You can't let 'em push you around, think they can dictate terms. If you can't make yourself too big a bone to swallow, you hide and you wait. Heh, you didn't turn out bad, 'till that Sect filled your head with nonsense."
For the second, the Fox knew Sects, but she did not know the Argent Sect which Su Ling found herself in.

The Sect offered no justice. Her friend was maimed. The high nobles had a war game that fucked over all the weaks as they were deprived of opportunities based on the side they were on. Yan Renshu ran a slave racket.
"Don't lie to me girl, even if you've not inherited my hunger, you've inherited my hate," the gentle tap of the cane and the drag of elderly feet were far too loud, the shrunken old woman loomed. "Or…well are you even that different? Think I can't smell the man on you child? Oh but he's a strong one ain't he. Won't even notice if you take a sip. Lucky little kit."

"It's not like that, I didn't- It was just-" Su Ling's own tails snapped and waved wildly in agitation, and her blade wavered, only the ghost at her feet stopped her from taking a step back.
Hell, the Fox can discern the desire, but not WHY.
She just fixates upon the base aspects, when Gan's appeal stems more from his sense of justice and his insight into philosophy.

Not everyone just wants sex out of a relationship.
"Maybe you didn't want to eat that, but you wanted to take it from me. It was spite, not some pretty nonsense that moved your hand. What foolishness these people have filled your head with."

She hated the verbal assault her friend was under, but if the beast could just remain distracted… Perhaps here, Ling Qi thought, if she could just work her will into the miniscule gaps between the weaves of this illusion world, she could pry open something, just a little crack…

"And you, quit pawing at the shutters girl," Ling Qi froze as the old woman's eyes fell on her. "You're one of the ones who went and confused my girl. Made her forget how things are, when you should damn well know better."
And this here tears it apart.
Su Ling was ALWAYS the one who sought to do the right thing.
Ling Qi learned from her to care.


"Not a bad meal, not for a girl at your stage. You thought to get one over me?" the monster said, pursing wrinkled lips. "But… no you cut it off, can't even use it to nip at my power."

"I didn't take her for some shitty reason like that. I took her because they all deserve better than you, they've already suffered enough," Su Ling said flatly.

"You've killed it though," said the fox, cocking her elderly head, birdlike. "Look, buncha scraps like that, course they'd start falling apart without the only thing that binds them.
This part actually does seem true for once. The reaction is somewhat natural, she's curious whats going on because it doesn't make any sense at all.
Ling Qi swallowed, pins and needles on her skin. Some part of her wanted to deflect and talk around, to try and desperately go for more time. But… could she really beat this creature with words and misdirection? No, obviously not. She felt Sixiang's arms embrace her without form. "All your power, and it's still not perfect, huh?"

"Hm?" wondered the fox, raising an eyebrow.

"It was like that with Black Skies Yearning too," Ling Qi said, steadily meeting her gaze. "A cruel old monster that preys on the week, so powerful, but there were holes in her illusion, because she lacked understanding too."

She smiled in reminiscence."You know I think my teacher's illusions were the only really perfect ones, she only tripped up because she was fighting herself."
Ling Qi is really quite good at finding the words to really piss someone the hell off hah.
"Yeah, illusions and art don't make you elegant or smart, they're as blunt or graceful as their maker," Ling Qi said steadily. "Su Ling is the righteous one, the one who remembers peoples names and hurts. No one has filled her head with anything, she came on it honestly. Me, I'm only a thief. And you're a poor liar and a brute."
This is what you get for judging people by their elemental natures.
The Moon fairy of cold desire is but a petty thief who barely remembers anyone, not a righteous force.
The thing about cruelty Ling Qi found, is that it made you sloppy. Inattentive. It was something to be inflicted on one helpless before you. Combine this with the pride of a beast who by all indication wished to break rather than kill. A beast who, most importantly, she could feel was not entirely here, connections reaching out into the waking world in three directions.

And, if you are caught in one act, so often the catcher will be less attentive for others.
Four clones, and this one is this strong.
...though I'm not sure its JUST cruelty. The Fox cannot make sense of what she sees, everything is strange.

And most predators are probing when they find something strange.
A wounded hunter cannot hunt.
Subtly gathered, Dream Qi surged, Sixiang slammed the full weight of their qi, the full weight of their existence into the the thinnest most unstable part of the illusions, a wash of chaotic and unraveling qi.

Dreamwalker Trait Increases by one

The tiniest split appeared in the weave, and Ling Qi grasped Su Ling's hand. The world erupted in a kaleidoscope of light as Ling Qi reached for the image of power, far more expansive than her littlegate. Her mind dreamed of golden scales, coiling kilometers into the sky.

The world flew, or they did, Ling Qi could not tell in the chaos.She threw every ounce of her will and her speed into this jump, Sixiang expended the entirety of their qi in a single tremendous burst of dissolution to leave the path behind unknowable.

It was not enough.
Just not, quite enough skill.
Practice makes perfect.

...maybe we should update our escape talismans for Liminal shenanigans.
Death came as fire, purple and smoky, a haze in the shape of a lashing tail, it's bone white tip far sharper than mortal steel. Ling Qi felt a lance of terror in the bare instant she had, and pulled deep upon the dark qi that ran through her body, forming the pattern of the Black Mirror technique in the bare instant she had. Her form became the void, a bottomless hole in the world that would absorb any attack.

The void filled with fire and overflowed. Ling Qi heard a crack like breaking porcelain and her technique shattered.

She hit the ground rolling, bile and blood in her throat, something sharp and pinching in her chest. Smoke trailed from the burned hem of her dress, and distantly, she heard Sixiang cry out in pain. Her flute materialized in her hands as she rolled to her feet, already beginning the steps of her dance, to summon mirror copies or speed herself on the wind.

A tail the size of a tree trunk smashed into her, she felt her right arm snap like so much kindling and her flute shatter, splinters digging into her lips and neck. She struck something hard, and nearly blacked out, slumping down to the base of a tree.
And as Sun Liling had once found out.
Ling Qi is still stupidly durable.
Even against a higher realm attack she can take a few hits, and thats when she's denied the time to raise more defenses.

She's so annoying.
All Ling Qi could see was a shadow, a looming thing, of lashing tails and bony limbs. She was thin, the fox, Ling Qi thought, for all her greed. Fur clung tightly to bones, a nightmare of starvation and murder in half formed blackness of a wooden clearing they had landed in.
...you know, for all that the sacrifices seem to be working, she's also being conceptually starved.

How many hunts had to be aborted because of increased patrols and surveillance I wonder?
How many halfblood children were taken in by the Ministries before they met their end?
Su Ling appeared before her, in a burst of speed, the side of her saber held up like a shield, braced on one arm. That dull gray qi from before snapped and hummed. It filled her meridians, crawled on her skin and around her the stuff of dream stiffened and froze, the ground turning gray, the air turning to choking dust. But in that cloud, Ling Qi saw a string of formations burning black on her blade. She recognized them from that time so long ago that she had seen Su Ling working with Xuan Shi.
Oh she was working on this in the RR chapter!
The time sword!


The sound of impact could not be described, it was simply a deafening noise. With all her strength, Ling Qi exhaled her mist from every poor, gathering it in a protective cocoon around them as she had in the caldera.

Su Ling slammed into a stone to her right and bounced, blood erupting from a pair of deep cuts across her body and chest. Her sword had shattered into shards, and she clutched now only the hilt and stump of a blade in her hand.
And Ling Qi continues being annoying, preventing what should be a oneshot from oneshotting.
That said, what can a broken blade do?
"Stop, stop! I'll go back, I promise, please stop!" Xisheng was running across pale green grass, the dreamscape showed no sign of ruin. Ling Qi pushed herself up, forcing herself to sit up.

"Pitiful thing, imagining that you had a choice," the voice emanated from the shadows, near to the gigantic fox's skull like head, and she hears it inhale a torrent of air and qi.
For that choice, you must live.

She hears Su Ling scream something unintelligible, a curse or a wordless roar of anger she knows not. She feels a stinging pain in the corner of her eyes. Still not enough. But she catches crimson in the corner of her eyes.
There is a clearing in the cloudy sky, and in it hangs a baleful red sickle.

Su Ling has staggered to her feet, the child is wailing, their limbs breaking apart into light and mist. Su Ling stumbles forward, half blind with blood, and stiffens her posture into a high attacking stance. The meridians in her arms burn, writhing visibly under her skin. And at her back, for less than an eyeblink, an iron haired matron whose face is a skull reaches up, sniffs and adjusts the angle of her broken blade like an instructor.

The red is blinding, and she hears the echoing scream of a fox, more in shock and outrage than hurt. She sees, in the fading flash a bead of blood from a thin cut across its muzzle
I wonder if we reenacted the Bloody Moon's origin story by accident here.
Resolving to fight against that which you cannot defeat, to protect those you must.
To do what is right even when your blade and body has been broken.

To Cut, even without a blade.
In the name of the Moon, be punished.
Su Ling collapses to the ground, her own blood soaking her arms, meridians ruptured.

And Ling Qi feels something cold on her palm. The foxes' enraged gaze whirls onto her wayward daughter. Ling Qi sees a crack in the ground, from which black flower petals blow.

There is a time for suspicion and wariness, this is not it. With her will, she seizes Su Ling, what is left of the child, and dives down the crevice in a slick of shadow.
...you know I suppose a prison IS a pretty good place to take refuge.
Its hard to get in after all.

Or out, for the matter.
 
Su Ling: Purpose
A/N: I didn't realize there was a chapter with Su Ling crafting the time blade, so this is definitely entering apocrypha, but I'd be grateful if anyone could link me. Anyway.

Su Ling: Purpose

It was one in the morning, and some people were way too chipper.

"Form follows function," Xuan Shi, one such way too chipper individual lectured, his words about as awkward as they were pretentious. "A blade cannot both be sword and shield."

Su Ling looked up from her project, ears twitching both in outrage and exasperation. Sweat beaded on her brow, and she irritably wiped the proof of how extraordinarily pain-in-the-ass this whole endeavor was with the hem of her sleeve before it could contaminate anything. Then, with casual negligence, she threw her awl back into the fire in front of her, and gave the makeshift bellow underfoot another solid pump. The fire leapt higher while the blade of her sword, laid flat on top of slab of the slab of near-molten metal that was serving as her forge - briefly glowed rust orange along the edges before tapering back down to a calmer cherry red.

"The deal was I get your project castoffs and you get to watch me craft, you didn't say nothing about jabbering at me while I did it."

Xuan Shi tipped his hat, suitably chastened. "Apologies, Sect Sister. I..." and she could feel him struggle not to slip back into overly flowery prose, "I overstepped."

"Damn right you did," she huffed, taking the awl back out, nearly yelping at the heat, but managing to suppress it with a flex of her qi and got back to work carving her makeshift formations. True to his word, Xuan Shi stopped commenting, his presence reduced to moments of bright interest and pale thought.

In her, though, the guilt mounted. She knew she was getting the better of the deal here: jade, even the sliver-thin, burnt shavings, were worth so much she couldn't even begin to fathom repaying the debt.

Which is why she wouldn't. But she didn't have to be ungracious about it.

"Besides," Su Ling muttered, "didn't Grandmaster Sa say 'existence precedes essence'?"

Xuan Shi's silence could best be characterized by the word surprised.

"What?" she asked defensively as she made another stroke with her awl and examined it critically. "Didn't think I could read?"

"Grandmaster Sa is a... a... unique thinker," Xuan Shi said, in the somewhat strangled voice of a very polite person wanting very badly to not be very polite.

"Yeah," Su Ling needled, revealing a canine or two as she worked on, "his views on geomancy are pretty nif-"

Xuan Shi proceeded to fill the air for the next two hours on why geomancy could not be made from scratch and how even if it could be argued that a cultivator chose their path, and hence, their existence did not come pre-circumscribed (which was arguable given the variable level of talent one possessed from birth) geomancy worked on fixed principles whose forms by definition defined their functions so the entire idea that the naturally existing geomancy could be ignored in order to engineer new forms of geomancy was wishful thinking to begin -

Su Ling wasn't sure when his droning monologue ended. Wasn't sure, in fact, what was going on.

The air was still, an both the world and fire a flickering spectrum of whites and grays. Her blade, mysteriously, was complete, formations shining with black fire. A memory stirred, like a predator, stalking her, just out of sight.

Then, color: her sword, as if dipping itself into the lifeblood of a giant, slowly began to turn red. She wasn't surprised when a gaunt, skeletal figure picked it up, swathed in white, to better accentuate the bloody hole where her face should have been.

The sword was examined for a long moment, before being pointed at Su Ling who was holding, for some reason, naught but a hilt and a shattered blade and a mouth full of blood.

You knew.

"What?" croaked Su Ling. "Don't speak in rid-"

Su Ling stopped. Riddles had never been the Bloody Moon's way.

Yeah, she did know.

She had known and looked away.

Brothers. Sisters. Innocents. Dying. You knew. And you did nothing.

There were justifications. There was ample justification. A world of it, ready for the taking.

But not for her.

Many things could be forgiven. But maybe not this one.

Su Ling stalked past the Bloody Moon, cutting her hand on the blade as she pushed it out of the way, and towards the clearing where Xifeng and Ling Qi were moving, ever so slowly, towards death. She couldn't find it in her to warn them away: she was heading there herself, after all.

"I'm here now," she said simply.

Behind her, the Bloody Moon smiled, a skull patching over the bloody hole in the world that had been her face.

You do not have to be.

Yeah, she knew that. Her mother wanted her to come back strong and full of hate. She'd let her go. And it was tempting, oh, fuck it was tempting.

But like she said.

She was here now.

She took another step forward and the world jarred back into loud, painful motion. Blood poured from more wounds than she was aware of as she hurtled backwards, caught by something Ling Qi did, the impact as she slammed into stone mitigated by just that critical little bit that allowed her to keep her wits, even with her head ringing, and blood pouring down half her face and front.

Xifeng was running, shouting at their Mother to let them go.

A better person than she was.

Su Ling screamed as she stood: at least three of her ribs were broken, as were two fingers and her clavicle. Her hand trembled as she grasped the hilt of her ruined sword. If she hadn't been in the Liminal Realm it was entirely possible this wouldn't have been physically possible.

She staggered forward, slowly at first, then with increasing speed. It was only five steps - four now. Somehow the sword in her hand was whole again, even if you couldn't see it, and her arms felt like they would burst with the power keeping it whole.

Three.

She raised both arms as she narrowed the range, pain like daggers slipping beneath her skin to play with her bones, sleeves falling down towards her shoulders. Two steps, one step, then the blade fell.

The red was blinding.

Mother screamed, shocked.

Su Ling felt her arms shred themselves, meridians rupturing like overburdened pipes. Still, she tried to grab Xifeng, limbs treacherous and pathetic as worms. Her little brothers and sisters were unravelling, dying, a lot like she was. She wanted to chuckle, but it hurt too much. After participating in a war on two fronts, dying like this was entirely too stupid for words. But.

But maybe it wasn't that bad a way to go.

"I'm here now," she whispered, holding Xifeng tight. "I'm here-"

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Author's Note: Thrown together a bit too quickly because no time, but still, the ol' muse batted her eyes at me and I said okay fine, geez.
 
A/N: I didn't realize there was a chapter with Su Ling crafting the time blade, so this is definitely entering apocrypha, but I'd be grateful if anyone could link me. Anyway.
That was a fun omake!

Here's the link to the chapter where Su Ling and Xuan Shi discuss the time blade. It's less the crafting the time blade and more learning how to craft it though.

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Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny) Original - Users' Choice!

“I’m going to share an interesting site with him,” Ling Qi said. “Hopefully it can provide some balance to the favors I owe him.” “I do not think sir Xuan really concerns himself with debts,” Li Suyin said thoughtfully as their ride skittered around a corner, descending toward a faint light...
 
"Su Ling: Friend of Ling Qi and Li Suyin, her former roommate. She is the daughter of a powerful Spirit Beast, a cyan level fox who seduced and killed her human father. She is a very capable pill crafter. Very grumpy"

I just found this in the character sheet chapter in royalroad. So, unless she has brokenthrough or Yrs changed it, Madame Grey is 4th realm spirit beast.
 
"Su Ling: Friend of Ling Qi and Li Suyin, her former roommate. She is the daughter of a powerful Spirit Beast, a cyan level fox who seduced and killed her human father. She is a very capable pill crafter. Very grumpy"

I just found this in the character sheet chapter in royalroad. So, unless she has brokenthrough or Yrs changed it, Madame Grey is 4th realm spirit beast.
That's a character description based off of what was known at the time not actually written by Yrs so isn't really good evidence.
 
"Su Ling: Friend of Ling Qi and Li Suyin, her former roommate. She is the daughter of a powerful Spirit Beast, a cyan level fox who seduced and killed her human father. She is a very capable pill crafter. Very grumpy"

I just found this in the character sheet chapter in royalroad. So, unless she has brokenthrough or Yrs changed it, Madame Grey is 4th realm spirit beast.

Madame Grey portrayed herself as a 4th realm, possibly to slide under Ministry notice. This adventure showed that she's actually a 5th realm.
 
Madame Grey portrayed herself as a 4th realm, possibly to slide under Ministry notice. This adventure showed that she's actually a 5th realm.
Did it? The only argument I've seen for that is Xisheng's statement that no fox in the area has reached the sixth tail in a long time, but we know of a five tail fox. Luli, Lin Hai's spirit, is a fox with five tails. Unless there is a clearer statement about Madame Grey's realm then I see no reason to question what we've already been told.
 
Madame Grey portrayed herself as a 4th realm, possibly to slide under Ministry notice. This adventure showed that she's actually a 5th realm.
No it didn't. We only know she was in 4 places at once, and that she was strong enough to body Ling Qi and Su Ling who are both low-mid green at best. These facts do not combine to set her floor of power to Indigo. Multipresence is a thing that starts showing up in the 4th realm, and the difference in power between the two ends of Green are pretty extreme. A peak Green should be more than capable of fighting off Su Ling and Ling Qi. Everything else she's known to have done doesn't take a huge investment, since it would be pretty trivial for an peak Red or early Yellow to be able to kill off lone mortal men.

The only way you can assert that Madame Grey is beyond a 4th realm is to argue either that the other 3 instances are much higher in cultivation than late Red/Gold or early Yellow/Silver, which we have no data on, or that it's impossible for a Cyan to have more than 1 combat capable fork running around and that she was already in combat, which you have no evidence for. Based on what we know, Mid/Peak Cyan is totally possible.
 
I agre with the rest of what you said, but Ji Rong killed a mid Red when he was a 14 year old, maybe even younger.
Yes, and that was considered something of a rare achievement. One where nobody even bothered to ask for the details (was the Red drunk, was it an ambush, a trap, etc. etc.) because it was just that much of a surprise. Not particularly anything of note to 'proper' cultivators, but to mortals it is a grand achievement.
 
I agre with the rest of what you said, but Ji Rong killed a mid Red when he was a 14 year old, maybe even younger.
I don't believe that the man Ji Rong killed had the level of his cultivation established in the narrative, and the point I raised is mostly centered around our own lack of data. If Madame Grey is indeed beyond the fourth realm, nothing in her actions in scene indicates such, because with the information we have (4 bodies, 3 of unknown power, and one indistinguishable from a peak third realm) isn't enough to conclusively say anything. Since we know she preys on mortal men, we can assume that the other 3 bodies aren't that powerful, because they don't need to be.
 
The more relevant piece of information was the spirit suggesting that if Su Ling ate her mother she might be able to achieve 6 tails, which no-one has done "in ages".
 
Gimlet eyes squinted in the melting darkness, firelight growing as a hearth was painted from nothing. Dirt and grass molded into rough wooden planks and woven straw mats, the night sky began to bleed into rafters and straw. But on the wall forming behind the old woman, the twisting shadows of tails appear, they weave through and among each other, too swiftly and chaotically to count.

That the number of tails is left deliberately vague here implies things too, at the very least the previous certainty of four tales is no longer certain. Narratively it then seems likely that the previous assumption was wrong and they are now five tails, or have been for a long while and were merely pretending.

Admittedly, I wouldn't put it past the fox to actually be four tails pretending to be five tails either.

The deliberate vagueness means we probably shouldn't be making any certain statements anyway. For all we know Yrs hasn't even decided yet or they've even reached six tails in secret. Their nature means that unless the Moon directly tells us her cultivation or something we probably shouldn't be certain until we've killed the fox and we've made extensively sure we've actually killed it, not just a decoy.
 
Hmmm... I'm partial to the idea that Madame Grey is a fifth realm if only for the fact that stealing from a fifth realm while still green is even more impressive than stealing from a fourth realm.
 
Now hear me out:

Madame Grey has tails weave through and among each other
Xisheng is an amalgam of suffering foxbloods

what if Madame Grey is an amalgam of Fox Spirits, like a Rat King. All tangled up together by intertwining tails of rejection, hunger, emptiness and isolation.

Rat Kings come about when grime coats a knot of their tails and traps all the rats together. Most of the time the rats all starve to death. But if the grime is the core of this spirit, the locals could hunt and kill many rats without ever killing the Rat King. It acts as a perpetual negative force for the locals to reject and commit sin against, generating loyalty and blackmail material at the same time that it perpetuates itself. It's perfectly terrible for the Hui to make something like this. The Diao would always be too busy fighting their own demons to rebel from them. That is, until Diao Linqin
 
Courtship of the Lady and the Brute Part 2
Zheng Lei threw an arm over her eyes, groaning as a beam of early morning sunlight fell across her face. Scrunching her eyes shut, she remained there for a time in the comfort of silk sheets and soft bedding. Zheng Lei would never understand why so many cultivators gave this up. Wasted time they said! Sleep was as much a part of life as wine and song and love. How could you be wasting time living life!

Of course, she thought, the morning wasn't perfect. She'd have liked to wake up feeling a warm little body curled up at her side. But, you couldn't have everything she supposed. Zheng Lei sat up, squinting at the closed window that let the mocking little beam of light in between its shutters. It only took a moment to remember where she was, the unfamiliar walls and furnishings coming into focus.

Hm, hm big room, lots of blue, every piece of furniture carved from rich jade or wood that probably cost more per bundle than a baron's manor. Zheng Lei smiled faintly, reminiscing about how she'd gotten here. The gentle rocking of the boat, the searing taste of their meal on her tongue and the challenging golden gaze daring her to complain. And later, those eyes burning in the dark, and the feel of agile hands and sharp fangs.

She rolled her shoulders reaching up to rub one of the many faint red marks left there from the night before. Surprisingly rough girl. She should have guessed it, Zheng Lei thought, chuckling. Still, a shame she'd cleared off so early-

"Are you going to continue staring at my window like an ignoramus, or are you going to move aside and make room," Bai Mingzhu asked tartly, and Zheng Lei nearly jumped out of her skin, instincts blaring in alarm.

Zheng Lei very deliberately glanced over her shoulder, refusing to let that show. Sneaky princess. What could you expect from a snake? "Well you know, not used to seeing real rooms you know. Just caves and furs for a lout like me," she drawled.

She turned, silk bunching up around her waist as she sat on the side of the bed, giving the Bai an appreciative once over. Garbed in a thin silk shift, her hair unbound and pooling on her shoulders, it was a very different sort of beauty than the woman had in public. Unlike some of her kin, Zheng Lei didn't dislike the overly elaborate fashions of the court. With their layers and sashes and lace, she just thought of it as gift wrapping. The longer it took to get to your present the more the anticipation built.

The Bai paused at the bedside, steam rising from the pot set on the teatray in her hands. "I did leave you a sleeping gown, if you somehow missed it."

Zheng Lei glanced at the grey thing hung over at the dressing table, and then down at herself, and smirked, giving a small flex of her shoulders. "Nah. Why bother dirtying it?" Zheng Lei said, shrugging.

Heh, up and down went the princess' eyes. Sneak up on Zheng Lei, would she.

"Barbarian," Bai Mingzhu huffed, sitting down beside her. A tap of her fingers set the tea tray hovering between them. In addition to the teapot there were a pair of cups and a plate of some kind of dumpling, bite sized little things. "Serve yourself," Bai Mingzhu said flippantly.

"Don't mind if I do!" Zheng Lei said, immediately popping a dumpling into her mouth, only to freeze, remembering the spices from the night before. But no, she chewed, and no fire lit in her mouth. Still, too careless!

Bai Mingzhu sat silent beside her for a moment, looking straight ahead. Zheng Lei had thought she'd loosened her up, but apparently Bai were quick to snap back to form.

"You must know that this cannot happen again," Bai Mingzhu began haughtily. "Even this once was impulsive on my part. You will need to be satisfied with the one taste of heaven you have gotten."

Zheng Lei considered the other woman's words with the gravitas they deserved, slowly chewing a second dumpling. She'd let the snake have her pride, last night was pretty great, though heaven was a bit much. "Okay, bit of a shame. But if that's how it is, that's how it is."

The room was silent as Zheng Lei poured herself a warm cup and inhaled the scent. Wow, this was fancy stuff!

"What." Bai Mingzhu said, finely turning her head to look up at Zheng Lei.

"I had a great time, but if you don't want to go again, we don't gotta go again," Zheng Lei said, befuddled. Had she spoken with her mouth full?

Bai Mingzhu's eyes narrowed, and a spark of thought bloomed in Zheng Lei's head. Her own eyes widened.

"Oh, oh dang, this is that thing where you pretend you don't want me cause you want me to pursue you! Master told me about this. Crap, sorry. Can we start over? I'm actually good at this roleplay stuff if I'm awake."

Zheng Lei put on a winning smile. Bai Mingzhu stared blankly at her.

"No," Bai Mingzhu said coldly and with great dignity, standing up. "Your master is a fool, and I meant what I said. This will not happen again. Finish your meal and leave my manor. Discreetly if you would. I assume you understand the meaning of the word."

Zheng Lei scrubbed a hand through her tangled hair, wincing. "Yeah, yeah I get it. Not totally dumb."
Honestly she wished these foreigners would be clear about what they wanted from the start.

"For what it's worth. I had a lot of fun," Zheng Lei said, standing up herself, pushing the tray aside. Kinda killed the mood for snacking. "Not just the bed stuff. You've got a mean arm with a fishing spear."

Bai Mingzhu merely sniffed and swept out of the room.

Zheng Lei sighed and began to search for her clothes. Least she didn't have to escape out the window. Really was a shame though.
 
F/F relationships don't have a "man" and a "woman". Unfortunately we're going to have to make an exception in this case, because Zheng Lei is clearly a massive himbo!
 
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