Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)

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[x] Make the offer for a little journey beyond the material. You're not sure what she's looking for, but it might be easier found in Dream. It might end up dangerous, but such is cultivation (Add a Su Ling location to Dream exploration options)
 
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[x] Make the offer for a little journey beyond the material. You're not sure what she's looking for, but it might be easier found in Dream. It might end up dangerous, but such is cultivation (Add a Su Ling location to Dream exploration options)
 
[x] Make the offer for a little journey beyond the material. You're not sure what she's looking for, but it might be easier found in Dream. It might end up dangerous, but such is cultivation (Add a Su Ling location to Dream exploration options)

This. A thousand times this.
 
[X] Leave it at a reintroduction to Bian Ya, this is obviously a personal matter, and you don't quite trust your own mastery dream walking with a passenger yet. (Maintain current options)
 
[X] Make the offer for a little journey beyond the material. You're not sure what she's looking for, but it might be easier found in Dream. It might end up dangerous, but such is cultivation (Add a Su Ling location to Dream exploration options)
 
Diao Hualing hummed, showing no sign of offense as they descended the steps. "It is true. Your small talents are not my primary purpose here. Nonetheless it has some value. The Diao, you see like most clans in the Emerald Seas have some traditions of divination. Pyromancy, to be exact. It interests us that these old and defunct arts have value in the modern day."
Interesting implications.
Pyromancy isn't a common art, but it seems a little unusual that she at once calls it old and defunct, and yet a tradition of the Diao.

Can't be that they tossed it out of the clan archives just because its out of fashion with their imperial sponsors preferred astrology.
I'm wondering if they used to have a bloodline that granted it, having since gone defunct?

If so, not many of those. Fire associated beings don't tend to be associated with divination, foxes we know do it. Not many others.
Ling Qi had intended to try and speak with some of the Diao tonight at the Duchess' gathering. Had someone gotten wind of that and decided to pre-empt her?

"It is important for us to be able to show the proper support for the war effort. As one of the premier clans of the Emerald Seas, it is unacceptable for others to contribute more than we," Diao Hualing said.

"No one doubts the integrity and dedication of the Diao clan," Ling Qi said. The plaza disappeared into the mist above them, more of the stairs to the base of the mountain revealing themselves as the four of them descended.
Translation - The Diao are late to the party on Cai Renxiang's projects and they aren't happy about that.
"If you do not mind my asking, what is it about my humble crafts which draw such illustrious eyes," Li Suyin asked nervously. Ling Qi could tell her friend was trying not to wring her hands.

"You are pioneering a new field," Diao Hualing pointed out, the faint ring of her hair ornaments echoing as they walked. "We may have an interest in some commissions. As of yet, no one else may quite provide the products you do."

For the rest of the descent they kept up the careful dance of small talk and pleasantries. Diao Hualing was unfailingly polite, with the discussion mostly centered around Li Suyin's work. Neither Ling Qi nor Su Ling were much inclined to steer the conversation their way.
I'd bet if anyone had their own dealings, an arrangement with Suyin would be a way to launder their proceeds.
When they reached the gathering grounds and the main body of the guests, Ling Qi continued to observe their guest while taking Li Suyin around like she'd intended. Diao Hualing fulfilled her tacit promise without complaint, offering a few small words in Li Suyin's favor and pointedly deflecting attention from herself toward the one meant to be the focus.
Qingling will be annoyed, Suyin's being publicly associated with the Diao and she can't contest that despite a longer and stronger working relationship because she doesn't do parties.

Eventually, there came a moment when Li Suyin and Su Ling both stopped to observe a performance being put on in a nobleman's pavilion. Li Suyin was rather more enthusiastic about it, something about it being a rendition of a classic play, but Su Ling as was her way seemed happy enough to humor her.
Suyin is the only truly cultured person here, despite one of her friends being a musician of skill.

Diao Hualing acknowledged this with a nod. "It is not so terrible. Your actions in court mean we must oppose your rhetoric, but we understand the need for her grace to demand near impossible tasks of the heiress. That is the nature of the throne."

Ling Qi frowned a little. "If that is how it must be. I do mean it sincerely when I say that I mean no offense to the Diao clan."

"Perhaps, but your words and actions, so easily extending kinship to barbarians, we cannot accept this. The path to being a son or daughter of the Empire cannot be so easy," Diao Hualing replied. "It is more than some tenuous tie of blood ten thousand years gone."

"I understand your position, but that path needs to begin somewhere," Ling Qi replied evenly. She watched her friends, Suyin enjoying the show on the stage, and Su Ling warily eyeing everyone who got close. "I hope this does not need to lead to serious conflict."

"We will see. For now no one sensible wishes to directly oppose your project," Diao Hualing said. "It is my hope that these differences between the heiress and the Diao can be smoothed over. To this end, I have an offer."
Reading between the lines.
1) The Diao cannot take her party line. Ling Qi straight up repudiates the Diao's political strategy.
2) While the diplomacy project enjoys Shenhua's attention, the project is immune to direct sabotage.
3) Unsaid but implied: If Ling Qi doesn't use the grace period to build sufficient reason otherwise, once Shenhua's attentions move on, she can expect the Diao to be doing some opposing.
"I am always willing to listen to reasonable words," Ling Qi said.

Diao Hualing smiled faintly, taking her words with good humor. Sixiang thought her reaction was genuine. "I am an investigator for the ministry of Law in the Central Valley. Your case has come to my attention."

"Has it," Ling Qi asked warily. "I am surprised so minor a thing would reach you."

"Baroness Ling is inexperienced in some ways," she replied. "Tampering with the Ministry of Communication is a serious matter. To do so for something so petty indicates a culprit who is, let us say, arrogant or inexperienced themselves."

"I suppose I will trust your experience," Ling Qi said slowly. "What is your proposal?"

"Work with me on this case. I am aware that you have some interest in delving into the matter specifically. I can provide you with my experience in navigating the Ministry of Law, and a small introduction to my elders tonight at the Duchess' gathering."
She offers it as a gift, but if you think about it, the criminal investigation is something the Diao want covered regardless.
Why?

The culprits have 3 main possibilities:
1) It was a lapse in mail security in Diao territory, thus implying incompetence or corruption on their part. If so, they must seize the narrative to demonstrate that they have it covered, and render it as much an internal matter as possible.

2) It was an (unsanctioned) action from a Diao scion, possibly incensed by Ling Qi's public stance in court. The Diao are large enough that they cannot rule out that one of their own was an idiot at the right place at the right time, they don't know any more than we do, and its a sensitive enough matter that if they were to fling accusations around the investigator would be in hot shit with their internal factions. If so, they must channel the investigation to nail a cutout and limit their clan's liabilities.

3) It was a skilled frame job from a third party instigating conflict between Ling Qi and the Diao. If so they want to track it up the chain to said party and deal with them.

The Diao cannot insert themselves into the investigation on their own, because they're one of the suspects. They cannot launch an internal investigation without someone to soak the resulting backlash. So they approach through Ling Qi(who, as a wronged party, has certain leeway to nudge things), and as such, channel the investigation through Diao-favorable channels.
Diao Hualing's expression did not change, but she did fold her arms behind her back. "You are in a somewhat unique position. It would please me if we were able to become regular correspondents, even after this matter is dealt with. I would not expect you to hide this from your liege naturally, but otherwise discretion would be appreciated. It would be some comfort to the Diao, or at least, my family if we are allowed a small window into your ladys' thoughts."
This is pretty much expected. They need a back door because they can't use the front door.
Internal politics maybe?
"I think Lady Diao is well intentioned," Li Suyin said quietly. "I think- I think I will take her up on the offered commission."
Suyin got what it looks like on the tin. Private job offer.
Very favorable one.


"She knew where I was from," Su Ling grunted.

Ling Qi's eyebrows rose. "Why did that come up."

"She offered to introduce me to some people. People who might know some things I'd be interested in," Su Ling bit out grudgingly.
She knows the price. Su Ling would definitely never pass this up.

Though it likely irritates Su Ling that the Diao could have dealt with things already, but chose not to prioritize it.
Ling QI nodded slowly, not expecting Su Ling to say anything more in this semi-public space. "And what did she want from you."

"Would you believe she wanted me to meet her younger brother?" Su Ling said with a barked laugh. "Fuck, I don't even know what I don't know. Something is up here."
...what?

The Diao are Imperial facing.
The heck are they doing arranging to marry spirit blood INTO the clan?
"You know, we might be able to help her out a little more," Sixiang offered tentatively. "Its easier to see things sometime, on the other side. We could take her on a trip to search some things out?"
Ling Qi considered this. She doubted Su Ling would accept a 'Ling Qi adventure' under normal circumstances, but…

[] Make the offer for a little journey beyond the material. You're not sure what she's looking for, but it might be easier found in Dream. It might end up dangerous, but such is cultivation (Add a Su Ling location to Dream exploration options)
[] Leave it at a reintroduction to Bian Ya, this is obviously a personal matter, and you don't quite trust your own mastery dream walking with a passenger yet. (Maintain current options)
Su Ling is 3 for 3 on Ling Qi Adventures.

...lets make it a 4 for 4!

[X] Make the offer for a little journey beyond the material. You're not sure what she's looking for, but it might be easier found in Dream. It might end up dangerous, but such is cultivation (Add a Su Ling location to Dream exploration options)
 
...what?

The Diao are Imperial facing.
The heck are they doing arranging to marry spirit blood INTO the clan?

Do we know what spirit blood the Diao originally had?

Between this and the mention that pyromancy was one of their traditional arts, I'm wondering if they didn't have fox spirit blood. If so, I'd imagine the more conservative elements of the Diao may be interested in her given pyromancy has proven effective against the Yith. It may be half a concession to the conservatives and half a play on their parts. If Su Ling marries into the Diao and if her pyromancy proves effective, that could result in them gaining some traction in their clan.
 
[x] Make the offer for a little journey beyond the material. You're not sure what she's looking for, but it might be easier found in Dream. It might end up dangerous, but such is cultivation (Add a Su Ling location to Dream exploration options)
 
[x] Make the offer for a little journey beyond the material. You're not sure what she's looking for, but it might be easier found in Dream. It might end up dangerous, but such is cultivation (Add a Su Ling location to Dream exploration options)
 
Diao Hualing's expression did not change, but she did fold her arms behind her back. "You are in a somewhat unique position. It would please me if we were able to become regular correspondents, even after this matter is dealt with. I would not expect you to hide this from your liege naturally, but otherwise discretion would be appreciated. It would be some comfort to the Diao, or at least, my family if we are allowed a small window into your ladys' thoughts."

Ah, Ling Qi thought. So this was how you acquired people like those in Hou Zhuang's meticulous lists. "I see, that does seem generous. I hope you do not need an answer immediately."
See Ling Qi, getting informants and connections like Hou Zhuang's list is like peeping for a heist.

You've got to find the bribable guards to get information on guard patrol schedules, you have to get people who work at the target a bit tipsy to get a schedule of workers, and getting an inside man inside the target through favors does wonders to how smoothly a heist can go.

Just think of it as a prep for a heist and you'll do great at connecting with these connections!
 
Getting as many hooks into Cai Renxiang's extended cloud of supporters is probably a general aim. Su Ling not only pals around with Renxiang's left hand, she also works with the right hand Gan Guangli.

Oh, also

[x] Make the offer for a little journey beyond the material. You're not sure what she's looking for, but it might be easier found in Dream. It might end up dangerous, but such is cultivation (Add a Su Ling location to Dream exploration options)
 
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See Ling Qi, getting informants and connections like Hou Zhuang's list is like peeping for a heist.

You've got to find the bribable guards to get information on guard patrol schedules, you have to get people who work at the target a bit tipsy to get a schedule of workers, and getting an inside man inside the target through favors does wonders to how smoothly a heist can go.

Just think of it as a prep for a heist and you'll do great at connecting with these connections!
ah but we prefer the Ling Qi method.

One of our patrons points us in a direction

we do basic onsite recon, and then wander around until we see something that sucks, or something good that needs freeing

and then we just do it.


nonono. Thinking about informants and connections like casing a joint is wrong. We socialize in a way that "Gets the Band Together for One More Job". We recruit, we pull in, we make connections.
and then if Su Ling wants some insights we say something like "Yo we could steal some insights from the Liminal if you're up for a heist" and she says "dammit LQ I can't just. Well. I guess it would be pretty direct" and we say "See? Easy. 5 minutes, in and out, routine adventure. Simple. In and out. 5 minutes, then we go back to what you were doing c: "
 
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[X] Make the offer for a little journey beyond the material. You're not sure what she's looking for, but it might be easier found in Dream. It might end up dangerous, but such is cultivation (Add a Su Ling location to Dream exploration options)
 
The best part about Su Ling is how different her interaction with Ling Qi is than any other character. She is so incredibly blunt that it's refreshing when almost everyone else veils everything they say behind flowery prose of one variety or another.

She also has a unique motivation for her growth out of the people Ling Qi has been introduced to. Everyone else that immediately comes to mind is on the, "I'm cultivating for my family," train to at least some degree while Su Ling is on a matricidal journey.

Her cultivation doesn't need to keep up with Ling Qi in order for her to be an extremely interesting character in the narrative, especially when she makes Ling Qi stop and think about herself and her own opinions on things.
 
Turn 13: Arc 8-6
"Su Ling," Ling Qi said. "I might be able to help more, if you let me.

Sy Ling gave her a wary look. "What are you talking about Ling Qi."

"I'm a bit better at it than I was underground," Ling Qi said casually. Her dream walking abilities weren't precisely a secret, but she wasn't widely advertising them yet.

Su Ling furrowed her brow, trying to discern what she was talking about and Ling Qi saw the moment when understanding dawned. Li Suyin just looked at them with polite confusion.

"Not sure how that's gonna help," Su Ling said.

"You can find things there, you can't find anywhere else," Ling Qi said seriously. "Just think about it, okay? I'll introduce you to Bian Ya regardless."

"Um- I'm not completely sure what you're talking about," Li Suyin said, curling a strand of her hair around the pointed claw on her fingertip. "But even if things get a little chaotic around Ling Qi, it always turns out well, doesn't it?"

Ling Qi felt her cheeks heat a little. Li Suyin really was still way too confident in her.

Su Ling merely pursed her lips, one of her furred ears flicking in agitation. "...Thanks. For the offer. I'll think about it. Guess it might let me test some of my new kit, if nothing else."

Ling Qi smiled nodding her head. "Right, no pressure. So we've got a couple hours left before I need to go. Want to go see a full show? There's a small concert being put on in the Wang Family's pavilion this afternoon."

"Oh that sounds lovely!" Li Suyin said brightly.

Su Ling groaned but there was no real exasperation in it. "Yeah sure. Guess I could go for some music."

Ling Qi blew out a breath. This might be good for her as well, something more personal would probably be less fraught to navigate in the realm of dream. If she could help a neglected friend too, so much the better.

***​
The light was dim in the preparation room, and Ling Qi let the echoes of her words fall silent as Cai Renxiang gazed silently into the mirror set on the dresser table. She was already immaculate of course, not a strand of hair or fold of her gown out of place. Neither of them had really needed to touch of their appearances, but it was convenient to have somewhere private to speak before they entered the pavilion proper. They had gone over their plans for the gathering, and now Ling Qi had wrapped up with her report on Diao Hualing.

"So some part of the Diao wish to speak with me at least," Cai Renxiang said finally. "This is good. Not optimal, but better than I feared. I will counsel you to take the offer. We will review the correspondence sent together."

"I look forward to it, Lady Cai," Ling Qi said, dipping her head in acknowledgement. "I am aware that this is not the way you prefer to do things."

Cai Renxiang's shoulders tensed. "Despite my earlier outburst, I am not naive Ling Qi. I would like most parts of government to be open and transparent. But what I would like is immaterial to the current reality."

"I did not mean that," Ling Qi said with a touch of reproach.

Cai Renxiang squeezed her eyes shut for a moment."...I know. That was uncalled for. My apologies."

A moment of tense silence passed between them. "Cai Renxiang, what you said earlier, about family-"

"I spoke without nuance," Cai Renxiang said. "Nonetheless I do not think my conclusion is wrong, for myself. Know that I meant no attack on yourself."

Cai Renxiang was familiar enough with her to know at least the outlines of her forming way, and it seemed in the intervening hours had seen the clash there. "I do not think you did," Ling Qi said consideringly. "Lady Cai… I may not have been educated in philosophy, but I think I can hold my own in debate, if you would care for it."

Not so different from a spar really.

"Perhaps," her liege said. "The journey to Xiangmen for the auction will be long even with the arranged shortcuts."

Ling Qi nodded, accepting that. There would be a number of shorter transport jumps but it would still be several days' travel. "Renxiang, I-"

"Mother has stated that I am to attend her in her private quarters tonight," Cai Renxiang said. Dread cracked through her usually stoic voice.

"Oh," Ling Qi said. Losing her words as she recalled the haggard look Renxiang had worn after spending an evening with her Mother last year. She searched for words, but found few of any use. "I'm sorry Renxiang. You are strong though."

Just a little she understood Renxiang's reticence toward her sister, beneath the words about family and duty and everything else. Ling Qi supposed that even Cai Renxiang had a limit to the number of impossible responsibilities she could shoulder without buckling.

"Am I?" Cai Renxiang asked, glancing once more to the mirror. "Come, we have a number of individuals to meet tonight."

"Yes, Lady Cai," Ling Qi said, folding her arms in front of her as she followed her liee out, a precise number of steps behind and to the side. In her mind she felt a twinge of sadness from Sixiang. She agreed, but there was nothing they could do. For now.

Exiting the preparatory room the light from the pavilion proper was dazzling. From the faint rainbows cast by the mist of the fountains, to the light gleaming from the many reflective surfaces and polished tiles under their feet. All of it was filled with the high society of the Emerald Seas, talking, dancing, drinking, laughing. It was hardly the bacchanal revels of the Dreaming Moon, but neither was it the sort of staid lifeless gathering that Ling Qi had cut her social teeth on.

"You can't take Grandmother's influence out that easily," Sixiang chuckled quietly. "Besides, no one likes a dull party before the head chopping starts."

True enough. Today was revelry and tomorrow, tournament, but after, many of these people would be going home to muster their soldiers against the Cloud Tribes and what she now knew to call the Seven Cities.

Still the mood was good, high with confidence and braggadocio. Those they stopped to speak treated her with grace and good humor for the most part, and she did her part by simply supporting Cai Renxiang, coming in to explain some detail of direct experience when asked. There was much less needling about her marital intentions this year. She had proven herself enough to scare off the small fry and opportunists.

However, soon they met with their first major contact for the night. She had learned of this earlier via Cai Renxiang, and she was quite wary of it.

Standing near the misting fountain in the center of the pavilion in a small bubble of serene quiet unbothered by the noise and music around, there stood an older gentleman watching the play of the spray. He wore a finely pressed robe of dark blues and purples, embroidered with curling flames at the hems, and a black ministers cap on his head. His features were stern and lined, but his well groomed beard and mustache speckled with silver. She could only see one his hands, gloved, where it curled around the jade head of the dark cane he subtly leaned on.

He was a fifth realm cultivator. This was Cao Chun, the Imperial Inspector which would be assigned to their expedition. Word had come only shortly before the tournament. The throne had indicated that they would require an observer in this matter.

"Ladies," Cao Chun said as they approached, accompanied by the faint click of his cane as he turned on his heel to face them. Ling Qi could not read anything but stern examination from his face.

"Senior Secretary Cao," Cai Renxiang greeted, performing the proper bow. Ling Qi followed her lead, bowing more deeply of course. Ling Qi had already been informed of his rank and titles. In full he was Senior Secretary of the South in the Ministry of Integrity. No longer an active agent but a manager and administrator of them.

"It is good to see that you are prompt," he said crisply. "Your mother, her Grace, is skilled in raising the spirits of her subordinates."

"My honored Mother understands well the importance of morale to war efforts," Cai Renxiang said.

"She is," Cao Chun agreed. "Which is why your situation puzzles me. Such an unorthodox choice seems that it must bring some confusion to the spirit of the people."

Ling Qi squared her shoulders meeting the assessing gaze of the older man's grey eyes. The wrinkles around the corners of his mouth deepened. It didn't seem like dissatisfaction precisely, merely that he was thinking deeply.

Cao Chun was a veteran of the final bandit wars of the Celestial Peaks, being well over four hundred years old. These conflicts kicked off by the previous Emperor reforms and drive to clear the Celestial Peaks of malcontents had been the fire in which the Ministry of Integrity was christened. Bandit Kingdoms, heretical cults and other such things had long been able to take root in the many ruins and fortified nooks, but Emperor An's efforts had finally removed this stain. Empress Xiang's delving, refurbishment and settlement programs were the continuation of this.

Cao Chun's reputation was as a hero, who had struck down many villains and saved many people, a man of unimpeachable virtue and great devotion toward the great spirits. However his reputation is also as a merciless foe of those who would cross Imperial law.

On the other hand, she felt Sixiang shying back in her mind, and she was struck by an acute certainty that the interests this man represented were probably not on her side.

"Our parlay was unorthodox," Cai Renxiang agreed. "However it is also foolish to ignore opportunities that present themselves."

"Perhaps. Regardless, it is my duty to see that Imperial values and interests remain observed during these… negotiations. I have heard many reports on this matter, but I would hear you now, the minds driving it. Lay out to me your plans, your reasons and your observations of the targets," Cao Chun said, resting his other hand atop his cane as well. "That I may judge this course properly."

Ling Qi and Cai Renxiang shared a look, the presentation they had decided on was...

[ ] Frank discussion of the logistical difficulties of even engaging with the White Sky in the more traditional manner, the benefits of ceasefire and breaking up the Cloud Tribes into smaller blocks and other military concerns. (Do not gain or lose support for your project, No chance of offending or swaying Cao Chun. Cao Chun Bond set to -2. Increase difficulty of raising Bond further)

[ ] Bank on this man's reputation for virtue in discussing the ways in which the Southern Emerald Seas has long suffered from war and violence, and emphasize this as an opportunity for recovery and prosperity, rather than endless violence. (60% chance to reduce opposition to your project and progress toward swaying Cao Chun, setting his Bond at -2 on success, or -3 on failure)

[ ] Be open in your intention for friendly relations and exchange in the long term. Discuss the White Sky where you can emphasizing the similarities over the differences. Use implication of Great Spirit interest and Ling Qi's patronage of the moon as legitimacy for the project. (40% chance to reduce opposition to your progress and swaying Cao Chun. Sets his Bond to -1 on Success or -4 on failure.)
 
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