Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)

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Man Fan Yu negaverse would be... something, I think as a quest it'd have crashed and burned awhile ago tho.

Nah, this is the Fourth Update to the Fan Yu negaverse, which is about playing a disgraced Young Master sent on a wide variety of back woods postings.

They're about to choose between burning more goodwill with the family for another year-long cultivation turn at the Sect, or switching into 3-month turns for the Caravan Guard segment.
 
I wonder if Fan Yu's fear in this fight was just about failing or if the fact that Ma Jun fights like a mini-Ling Qi played a part. It's easy to overestimate how much Ling Qi weighs in the thoughts of others, but I could easily see Fan Yu seeing Ling Qi as the start of his life going downhill.
 
Ling Qi never fought him before though
Sure, but he's probably aware of how she fights. If he views Ling Qi as the start of things going downhill then the final obstacle to advancing to the Inner Sect being a second AOE crowdcontrol music wielding commoner might take on more symbolic significance in his mind. He doesn't need to have some direct lingering fear of facing her in combat for that to weigh on his mind and exacerbate his fears of failing here and things continuing to go downhill for him.
 
Sure, but he's probably aware of how she fights. If he views Ling Qi as the start of things going downhill then the final obstacle to advancing to the Inner Sect being a second AOE crowdcontrol music wielding commoner might take on more symbolic significance in his mind. He doesn't need to have some direct lingering fear of facing her in combat for that to weigh on his mind and exacerbate his fears of failing here and things continuing to go downhill for him.
Not to the extent of a visceral fear reaction. We already know what he fears
 
It could certainly have emphasised it if he saw the parallels. "Oh god please don't let me fail again in the exact same way." Except repeated failure has been his experience for the last two years. Just one more layer to worry over.
 
You know, I'm kind of bummed that we were too busy with our bard-off to actually watch Han Jian's match, boring as probably would have been.

Even if we aren't close anymore, I'd would have liked to have been able to at least say "I saw your match, good job" or something.
 
like, his family didnt even show up for him. a single older brother came to watch him embarass himself against a second generation cultivator girl. more likely there to show face and the deals than to actually support him but still placed in a position to rebuke him for his display.


i wonder what his status in his family and the golden fields group is after xiulan left. worst of all, at times and when pushed fan yu seems to be a really nice guy with a good heart who cares for his friends.
I am so so glad we're away from the Golden Fields group. Generally, and Fan Yu's... everything is a sad drama I want nothing to do with.
 
You know, I'm kind of bummed that we were too busy with our bard-off to actually watch Han Jian's match, boring as probably would have been.

Even if we aren't close anymore, I'd would have liked to have been able to at least say "I saw your match, good job" or something.
I agree but looking at the tournament table, I can see why Han Jian's fight was skipped. He is slated to go all the way to the finals, so I expect we will see alot more of him.
 
Fan Yu Quest is probably doing great with the OPTIMIZATION math cabal behind it :V, meanwhile the Ling Qi over there probably got incinerated in the earliest updates trying to approach Meizhen as a result of a background roll.
 
Fan Yu Quest is probably doing great with the OPTIMIZATION math cabal behind it :V, meanwhile the Ling Qi over there probably got incinerated in the earliest updates trying to approach Meizhen as a result of a background roll.
Nah, the Fan Yu NegaQuest has been getting destroyed by rolls the entire game and the QM has gone through four iterations of the dice system to make failing rolls less oppressive. It hasn't worked. The fight against Ma Jun was the first fight of the new roll under system, and the quest literally rolled 4 100's
 
Nah, the Fan Yu NegaQuest has been getting destroyed by rolls the entire game and the QM has gone through four iterations of the dice system to make failing rolls less oppressive. It hasn't worked. The fight against Ma Jun was the first fight of the new roll under system, and the quest literally rolled 4 100's
All 4 were for "Do you give up?" checks to see in Fan pussied out... so instead he stuck it out to fail harder!
 
I am the opposite. Jian, Xiulan and Su Ling were generally my favorite characters in FoD. And as time goes on, I realize that I would have prefered Ling Qi that went their route.
Tbf Su Ling isn't part of the Golden Fields group at all. We'd probably get even less of her if we went the golden Fields route since we would be leaving the province where she lives (and the province that her mother who she wants to kill lives) she has more to do in this route than she would in the GF route because of that.

And this is only a consolation prize, but Xiulan has a really fun Patreon Exclusive Sidestory going on that updates every month in Patreon. We've already seen some pretty cool stuff there.
 
I am the opposite. Jian, Xiulan and Su Ling were generally my favorite characters in FoD. And as time goes on, I realize that I would have prefered Ling Qi that went their route.
...What are you talking about? There is no route that includes those three. The current one we are in, and Sect would have been the same, includes Su Ling for the long run and Jian, which because we befriended Xiulan is not particularly close, for some time. If we had gone to Golden Fields it would be Xiulan for the long run and Jian might pop up every so often.

It is why the discussion ended up being mostly Cai and Sect, those we only have to keep distant contact on the long run with Jian and Xiulan. Which is as low number as it can go given we befriended people from multiple provinces.
 
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...What are you talking about? There is no route that includes those three. The current one we are in, and Sect would have been the same, includes Su Ling for the long run and Jian, which because we befriended Xiulan is not particularly close, for some time. If we had gone to Golden Fields it would be Xiulan for the long run and Jian might pop up every so often.

It is why the discussion ended up being mostly Cai and Sect, those we only have to keep distant contact on the long run with Jian and Xiulan. Which is as low number as it can go given we befriended people from multiple provinces.

*Sigh* If we had concentrated more on GF group in the beginning, back before the Sect/Cai route, is what I am talking about.

Whether Su Ling would have been part of that or not is anyone's guess.

Besides, when I listed those 3 characters, I didn't mean all 3 of them simultaneously, I meant any route that has any of them having a more prominent role.

As for Su Ling in the current route? What? She's mostly not there. And it's highly questionable if that will change in the future. Sect route would have a lot more of Su Ling e.g.
 
As for Su Ling in the current route? What? She's mostly not there. And it's highly questionable if that will change in the future. Sect route would have a lot more of Su Ling e.g.
Tbf we don't know if we would have had much more time with Su Ling up to this point since she still wouldn't have made it into inner in the tournament so we'd still have most of a year without her. Granted we'd probably have more time in the future with her since it's likely that she stays in the sect while we go to build our Fief. But who knows, perhaps there will be a lot more Su Ling in the future.

Plus with those other routes we'd have less time with other people like best snek Meizhen :V
 
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We should really study Coldstar Blade Foundations. In increasing order of importance:

5. CBF would help us become better at the sword, which might help us get some respect from Conservatives. (We also use a sword in combat as our domain weapon, as much as I want to forget that)
4. Aesthetically speaking "grace and precision" is neat. I think this could potentially justify our "death cloud" combat approach becoming something more interesting.
3. The Arts have been deliberately spread, meaning that it will be easy to find the successors.
2. Yin and Cold are already part of our toolkit, as is building up a finisher over the course of a fight. However CBF does this cooperatively, which is something we sometimes struggle with.

And, most importantly
1. LQ's Way is heavily built upon the opposed Concepts of Community and Isolation. Taking inspiration from another group that tried to do something similar with Cold and Fire would be extremely helpful.

Of immediate relevance CBF touches on Contrasts, Harmony, and Congruity and all of those would be relevant. I'd argue that Cutting fits into this as well, as Cutting might take the form of creating a boundary (especially for LQ).
 
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Legacy of the Horned Lords
Why must you pester me so, lordling. I am here on but obligation. I have no interest in whatever games it is you wish to play with the court.Leave this old man be!

You imagine that you are the first to ask me just what it is that we think we are preserving you smirking rascal, you arrogant, unfilial thug? Do you think I will grasp for answers, or ramble aimlessly like a man whose mind is already half rotten? I am Meng, a son of the waterways and my blood runs just as deep and old as yours, son of the Peaks. Your kin love to forget that, pretending that they are something more than men, that those they rule are idiot beasts to be herded and bred for profit and amusement.

Hmph, your words are as gnats and I have swatted them all before. You lovers of imperium are all the same, you dismiss and deride our traditions. Primitive you call us. Not all tribes of men had the fortune to grow up in a cradle, built by god beasts and dragons, surrounded by an order which merely needed to be found, not built. When my ancestors were setting the seasons, yours were still playing the courts of dead gods. We speak to our land, sing with our spirits, craft our homes hand in hand with the gods of the land, and you call us weak for failing to dominate as you do. Where are your scales, dragon? Your horns, your whiskers, your claws. You seem to have misplaced all your lordly might.

We are not weak, we are not soft. We accomplish more together with our land than we ever could in trampling it, moulding it to whatever momentary whims may not even last a century. Our schools of geomancy know this and need not your harsh lord of angles. The Nameless Mother is the world and the contours of her flesh persist for eons, changing only on a scale which only the longest lived may glimpse. It is not foolish to tap into that rather than try to impose some artificial order, invented by a man living in an artificial land.

It will support more people, you say, but why need we expand like locusts on their breeding flight? There are enough of us to rule our lands, enough of us to see the safety of our settlements, enough of us to do our duties to the gods. What good precisely will come from doubling or tripling the numbers in our cities. Ah yes, more taxes and levies for the throne, yes how could I forget the most important factor.

Your order is not wanted here, your help is not wanted here, least of all because we know it false. It has always been false, a trick to replace us, to change us. You made kings of the Xi and to what end, to subjugate our neighbors, who had been all but brothers for millenia. You couldn't even be content with tribute, nay your dogs demanded blood and control, and both they received.

And then came your puppeteers, the Hui, who have made of our faith a laughingstock. The words of the Pure One have disappeared from the minds of men, and only memories of hedonism and the self aggrandizement of the Hui remain. It makes this old man's fists shake with rage to know that such arrogant fools call themselves Teachers, call themselves Pure. As if all it takes to rise above this cruel world is to never lift a finger in labor or hardship, to never know want or connection! As if the overcoming is not how one comes to know themselves and the delineation of their path.

Then there are our beasts, and O does the hypocrisy burn. The great clans are exempt from your distaste naturally, as you dare not face their strength. But for consorting with our kin, whose chains Tsu himself shattered the skulls of their gods, we are savage. You tell us it is a foul thing for children to see our companions as kin, that it degrades their humanity, degrades their loyalty to their own kind. In this the extent of your ignorance is revealed. The beasts which live beside us, which have helped us build,which have defended our homes against nomad, enraged spirit and conqueror alike, and have died beside us when we failed are far more our kin than men such as you in your far away mountains and keeps, ever and always taking from us.

But that is the trouble with imperials. You covet the aesthetic, the appearance of order and unity. Our ways offend for the simple fact that they are not your ways, not due to any true objection. You look upon us and are offended to not see a mirror. You will take the world and erase everything which does not match your soulless peaks if you could.

But yes, come tell me more how you are improving our lands, bringing your roads and buildings which clash with the spirits and crush agreements older than the sage. Tell us how we are better packed into hovels where disease spirits and misery breed, in buildings which have no spirits, no bond to kith and kin who live within their walls. Tell us more about how barbarous our ways are in letting our children grow with companions four legged as well as two. Tell us that we are savages, little better than the wretched tribes of the Wall. How we will be much improved by answering to your lords and ministers rather than our councils and elders.

..We pay our tithes. We grant our tribute. But it is never enough, for you conquerors of Qin. All must be alike, all must submit, all must obey. Deviation punished.

We have no intentions of rebellion, we just wish you to leave us alone.

Last records of the Priest Meng Dizi, during the reign of Emperor Si, later executed for sedition against the Duke of Hui.
 
Very cool. Got some more information on the dream cults and the "Pure one". Also it looks like Qi really is accidentally turning herself into someone who follows the Weilu way of doing things like with our spirits being family members. No wonder the Meng faction that wants to revive Weilu traditions likes us. We would basically be a poster girl for what a modern ES noble should be like in their opinion.
 
Tell em Meng Dizi. TELL EM

Burn what you wish, we shall steal what we wish back from you through The Burning Library. Filthy nasty disgusting imperials 👏 Stinky Peaks

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to be fair, something was terminally wrong with the Weilu Traditionalists under the Hui. Their clans and much of their lands were ravaged terribly by the Prism Ogodei, who by all accounts shouldn't have been able to do that. There's a reason so many Weilu Reformists and Weilu Moderates exist nowadays, as opposed to the older and more calcified ones. Maybe the Hui were the reason it fell apart, but the Hui were enabled in part by the powerful full Traditionalists. I duno. I just like clapping at stinky peaks 👏
 
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Wow. Meng Dizi would have hated the Cai.
Probably, though not as much as he'd hate the Xia.

Either way, I imagine he would have been one of the most outspoken members of the Meng faction we are aligning ourselves with, insisting that the Weilu ways are not antithetical to Shenhua's Progress just because they are old.

I mean, since he never mentioned Ogodei or the backbone of the Bai's power being broken, I have to assume that Dizi had the enormous gonads to openly talk shit about the Hui in the days when their power and fear were still intact. I doubt he would have allowed being impolitic to stop him from advocating for his beliefs.
 
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