Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)

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Ngl, thread, I'm disappointed in you all. It fell to me to post this reaction?
(Reason for reaction: Tom Hardy's dreamy. We should take what excuses to post pics of him that come our way)

Yep! A cute kitten that wants to hug you!
 
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Lol, complaining some character motivations seem inconsistent in a quest narrative (ToD) and then comparing it to a story where the author has complete control over all characters and interactions (PGTE).

Trolls gonna troll I guess.
 
From what I understand, old school xianxia type stories are actually closer to stereotypical hero types; you know, the kind that actually cared about random people, acted nobly and honorably, etc. The whole anti-hero brooding loner type that we're more familiar with is a kind of an edgy deconstruction. Which... would make Forge/Threads a deconstruction of a deconstruction? How far can we deconstruct? Deconstruception?

I don't know xianxia that well, but... well, I kind of wonder how far this rabbit hole can go.
 
From what I understand, old school xianxia type stories are actually closer to stereotypical hero types; you know, the kind that actually cared about random people, acted nobly and honorably, etc. The whole anti-hero brooding loner type that we're more familiar with is a kind of an edgy deconstruction. Which... would make Forge/Threads a deconstruction of a deconstruction? How far can we deconstruct? Deconstruception?

I don't know xianxia that well, but... well, I kind of wonder how far this rabbit hole can go.
The major defining stories exist in the realm of mythology now.
Journey to the West.
The legend of Nezha.
And more.
 
If the Mininstry didn't exist, the Empire would be gone long ago
-450BP: Great Sect system put in place, granting imperial patronage to certain Sects.
-490BP: Ministry of Integrity established
-498BP: Yuan He corners and slays the Great Khan Ogodei
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-12000BP: Sage Emperor officially established Celestial Empire
The Ministry is relatively new thing (as are the Great Sects). Before them, things must have been wild.
 
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The Ministry is relatively new thing (as are the Great Sects). Before them, things must have been wild.
They were, yeah. Whole areas were basically controlled by random strong Cultivators. If you took over a place that wasn't super important (border areas, places far from power centers, towns/cities that are a little inconveniently placed) you could get away with it for a few centuries easy, especially if you reached 5th Realm or higher and were too strong to easy beat down without massive collateral damage + lost troops. We know that one of the first things the Ministry did was a massive campaign to re-establish order, which suggests that such a campaign was needed and found sufficient targets to justify its existence.
And of course one of the duties of the nobility used to be hunting down random commoners who got a bit of power and started going on killing sprees (see the very latest sidestory in this thread).
 
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Huh, he comes back. Whatever his intentions are it definitely garnered a reaction. For me personally I am liking how Ling Q being a Xianxia protag who doesn't just cut off all of her connections. It just always left me with hollow feelings seeing those vibrant protagonist practically toss away everything just to be on the top. Like what's the point? Considering relationship is also part of those being discarded, with dual cultivation being the sole exception because of the benefits it brings, all that was left is just sitting up there waiting for the next super sociopath to knock you off.

Anyways, getting off topic while still speaking of Xianxia. I have a theory about those Young Masters, why they always seemed to be courting death while spitting blood of outrage againts the protags. I think it's because they are trying to solely achieve the Dao without anything else.

I mean think about it. In Xianxia it's generally accepted notion that to achieve the Dao you need to Defy the Heavens which if you look at it in a different way it will be to become Unyielding to Everything because if you back down from anything less then how will you Defy the Heaven? If they focus on that and that alone in a technique which are practically moulding your soul then when they are confronted with Xianxia protags that are usually from a lower background who they have not already associated to being their better at a young age it is unsurprising that their reactions are to push and keep on pushing the upstart back down no matter what happens as anything less is unacceptable. I also think it's because of this that many Xianxia Young Master and Side characters are so similar as they are forcibly changing themself to one different but same at the core way to get the Dao.

This is why I am liking this Quest which didn't abondon Ling Qi's 'Roots' as it were. It gives Ling Qi personality and reason to continue existing unlike others who are essentially done after achieving the goal.
 
From what I understand, old school xianxia type stories are actually closer to stereotypical hero types; you know, the kind that actually cared about random people, acted nobly and honorably, etc. The whole anti-hero brooding loner type that we're more familiar with is a kind of an edgy deconstruction. Which... would make Forge/Threads a deconstruction of a deconstruction? How far can we deconstruct? Deconstruception?

I don't know xianxia that well, but... well, I kind of wonder how far this rabbit hole can go.
I think the most applicable phrase is actually Reconstruction, as yrs is rather successfully rebuilding a more modern take on the genre with a lot of its basic conventions but without the dark and gritty elements inherent to the more recent years' deconstructions of the genre.
Like the Empire is not a nice place but, in many ways, it's a hopeful place where the actions of any one individual can actually be a major deciding factor for helping save people if one tries hard enough and has the will to act. It might not work even half the time, but the fact that it's possible is a pretty fun part of this story that I've enjoyed and why i kinda like Shenhua despite her being an almost literal embodiment of authoritarianism.
 
Huh, he comes back. Whatever his intentions are it definitely garnered a reaction. For me personally I am liking how Ling Q being a Xianxia protag who doesn't just cut off all of her connections. It just always left me with hollow feelings seeing those vibrant protagonist practically toss away everything just to be on the top. Like what's the point? Considering relationship is also part of those being discarded, with dual cultivation being the sole exception because of the benefits it brings, all that was left is just sitting up there waiting for the next super sociopath to knock you off.

With the interludes where we've seen how great the sacrifices are to achieve the Eighth Realm, I've sometimes thought about the desirability of Linq Qi reaching a decision point where she decides it's not worth it. She refuses to cut off as many connections[1] as she would have to cut off to reach the peak of power and ends up settling at Prism as a deliberate choice made by the thread.

[1] If I don't caveat this I know someone is going to come at me with "but her Way is about maintaining connections; she wouldn't have to do that" but there would definitely be some kind of major loss with that final narrowing of the Way, some things she would no longer be able to care about.
 
[1] If I don't caveat this I know someone is going to come at me with "but her Way is about maintaining connections; she wouldn't have to do that" but there would definitely be some kind of major loss with that final narrowing of the Way, some things she would no longer be able to care about.
My guess is that it becomes the perception of those that oppose her becomes entirely unnuanced. Those that seek to harm those connections that are "Hers" become non-people until otherwise, and while she might maintain connections and the deep understanding of the web of connections that spans what the social sciences refers to as "society" there are those that would be considered the Other to those Ling Qi holds most dear and that ends with either an absorption/reconciliation with the Ingroup or the Other's inability to take meaningfully antagonistic actions ever again.
 
so the Ministries in general did exist, they were empowered under An's reign and probably had varying amounts of power in the large history of The Empire. Only the MoI is new, which is an officializing of the unofficial hands of the Throne which was the role of the Sima clan at the time.

Sects have always been a thing, in the sense that not every commoner talent or black-sheep-noble was a "problem" and Sects were a Monastic sort of thing. Relatively small research havens for natural philosophy, which in this world directly relates to potentially powerful cultivation. Sects were most prominent in Ebon Rivers, but there were some institutions that could be considered "Sects" in other regions. Blue Mountain in the Emerald Seas is one such example.

the Great Sect program was established to extend Imperial Influence into the various Duchies, as one of the ways that Ducal Privileges and Noble Privileges were curtailed under An. The Great Sects are a good idea, based off of the success of Yuan He and his band of Argent Heroes. The foster greater inter-provincial interaction, are a natural fit for "black-sheep" nobility that would normally be trapped in their family and restricted or trapped and causing problems, great for meritocratic uplifting of commoner talents, and in some cases extremely effective military training centers to face the specific brand of enemy that the Sect is nearest to. This is all combined with the ability for a Sect to push research forward very quickly by sidestepping the normal locks of inter-clan-communication as a Sect, not a clan.
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Xianxia roots include "Journey to the West". In "Journey to the West", the Daoist/Taoist Sun Wukong advances his Way to Defy the Heavens, and for all his strength and accomplishments and tricks he still suffers. It is only when he embraces Buddhist teachings that he finds a way to escape the perpetual suffering that an endless climb provides you. Successor Xianxia placed more emphasis on the adventuring, spitting in the face of Nobles (and having the Strength to do so), and Daoist/Taoist power fantasy rather than the Buddhist Enlightenment that Sun Wukong attains.

We can call ToD and FoD (I like to call it the YRSVERSE hehe) a Reconstruction, but I think it's very faithful to the heart of "Journey to the West" which is not only an adventurous Hero's Journey, but also about the limits that an endless climb can give you in this life. One major difference though, is that instead of the story following one Sun Wukong, the most clever and most powerful (but not the most wise, since it takes the majority of the story for him to become enlightened), it follows one young woman's Journey in a world in which all those of sufficient power are also on Journey's and are also grappling with the limits of an endless climb.

This places emphasis on the back end of "Journey to the West" in which Sun Wukong embraces enlightenment. Instead of a world of power climbing sociopaths needing to ever increase their power to prevent opposing sociopaths from dominating them, this is a Xianxia setting that has had time to age into a world in which most are now quite aware of the limits and dangers of sociopathic power grinding. This isn't the unrestricted power fantasy of youths rebelling against the boots of authoritarian sociopaths, this is a world that has seen the dangers and calamities brought about by unrestricted power and chosen to put limits on itself. There are certainly legacies of "wickedness" in the Empire from all manner of ancestors across the provinces, but as Shenhua told Shu Yue "Their replacements would be better."

I think my favorite character(s) to embody the differences and similarities between YRS's story and other xianxia is Ji Rong. Ji Rong is peak protagonist, yeah? Street kid who got tough, led a gang, lost a sister, and killed a cultivator when he was a mortal. That's a peak protagonist background, and it only grew more intense from there. Ji Rong takes a bit off the top during his brief employment as a Cai enforcer as he'd seen literally every bureaucrat and guard do in his home, and the Authority puts him in jail immediately with no appeals. When he mouths off to a noble that gets on his nerves, the noble literally puts him in time out. The one that sides with him, and best embodies his roots, is a powerful princess from The West(ern Territories) who is from a lineage that threw off the oppressive shackles of tyrants and embraced the rule of the strong as their ethos. She uses a mixture of traditional and foreign techniques, meditations and ideas to fight the most tyrannical and poisonous Authorities by being stronger than them.

And what happens to these two plucky protagonists? Either would qualify as protagonists of a Xianxia, and we still talk about what their negaquest (a quest that follows them instead) could be doing to this day why?

Because they were kids, who both accepted lessons which they could only learn in humility and sensible retrospective.

At the Argent Sect, the Sect founded by Yuan He (a man that very literally stopped a cataclysmic invasion of Emerald Seas through the Power of Friendship), they both learned the power of friendship and communication at the feet of their enemy's who had struggled greatly just to forge those connections. So much of our time and emotional energy was taken up by social action and maintenance. So much of our thoughts on philosophy and power-aggregation were consumed by the idea that we may be weak, but with allies we didn't need to stay that way. Through our forging of connections, and the emotional labor of all (well, almost all) we reached out to, we all became stronger than we were. We fully exemplified this lesson of inter-reliance to Ji Rong in our latest duel against him, in which he learned that To Be Family would mean that he and his brother would have to work together rather than each of them brute-forcing things on their own.

This whole storyline is an excellent example of how YRS weaves the theme of Buddhist Enlightenment that's in "Journey to the West" into the story holistically, rather than saving it all for mostly the end. Each person that cultivates has to grapple with Tribulations, and find pieces of personal Enlightenment through those Trials. These aren't code-words for power climbing either, they're the foundations and building blocks upon which a person attempts to attain Enlightenment. The steps beyond Red and Yellow and Early Green. Many end up finding that the path they've started on they don't wish to continue on (such as the sidestory for the creator of the Ashen Arts). Others can grind the numeric wealth required to advance up to Mid Green, and stall there as the paradigm shifts into a more explicitly philosophical journey. Ultimately, this story is a Xianxia point blank period. It's just a Xianxia that has decided to be thoughtful about the ending of "Journey to the West", and has built itself in a considered way around the idea that sociopathic power grinding is not only self defeating, but absolutely untenable for a civilization to hold to.

To Defy the Heavens, to embody nothing but Defiance of Reality/Creation, to seek Dominion over Reality/Creation itself, this is a path of self-annihilation and eternal suffering. This story embraces that understanding throughout the world it exists in. Just because it doesn't save these revelations til the end, doesn't mean it's not peak Xianxia c: yee
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LQ is still in the process of seriously interrogating how she relates to those outside of her immediate circle and has barely investigated how she is to handle enemies at all.

There are two main ways she could eventually decide to view strangers: they are either inconsequential unless they affect someone she cares about or she will display universal compassion. I believe the latter is both more likely and more admirable, but she has a long way to go before that's where she is at. When it comes to handling enemies we simply don't know enough to say where she will end up.

In theory her offense could eventually take the form of forced empathy, where someone who harms others is made to feel the pain their actions have caused. However this is pure supposition on my part.

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Regarding broader Xianxia, I see it as a deconstruction of more traditional fables in a way that turns them into pure power fantasy. There are ubiquitous stories about someone displaying some virtuous behavior and then getting rewarded with immortality and/or great power. Xianxia takes the specifics of those rewards and uses them to create a world in which money can buy you everything and no choice is too heinous in the pursuit of ultimate power.

Beware of Chicken is a reconstruction of the traditional stories. Jin Rou acts in a humble, kind, and diligent fashion and is rewarded with immense power as a cultivator. The people who are kind to him are then rewarded in turn with gifts of vast amounts of wealth and improved health/fortune. He instructs his disciples in virtuous behavior and nurtures their individual talents instead of promoting martial prowess as the ultimate virtue. The nature of this as a reconstruction of the older stories is true in-universe as well, since we see many older beings who are disgusted by the venal nature of younger cultivators.

As for Forge/Threads I see it as a fundamental defense of Confucianism, even if Yrs is not afraid to show the ways this can go wrong. Ultimately speaking the people attempting to (re)form social order against the forces of chaos and corruption are portrayed as justified and their enemies either misguided, childish, or monstrous. Furthermore promoting well ordered society elevates even horrible people, making them better than they would otherwise be.

I don't see Buddhism as having much place in the story so far. The closest we've seen to Buddhism (Weilu dream cults) are barely present in the story. There are also some Buddhist adjacent minor priests but, outside of Exorcist of Tonghou, they haven't really shown up either.
 
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LQ is still in the process of seriously interrogating how she relates to those outside of her immediate circle and has barely investigated how she is to handle enemies at all.

There are two main ways she could eventually decide to view strangers: they are either inconsequential unless they affect someone she cares about or she will display universal compassion. I believe the latter is both more likely and more admirable, but she has a long way to go before that's where she is at. When it comes to handling enemies we simply don't know enough to say where she will end up.
I actually think that Ling Qi will end up as the former. I highly doubt she will display universal compassion, since she already acknowledges that she does not have as large a heart as Zhengui, and that the reason she supports him in his wide-spread giving is that she is supporting Zhengui.
 
I think a possible way for Ling Qi to go if we want something like universal compassion is expanding on her personal connections via her needs of family insight, which will lead her to valuing her families connections, and then their connections, until we get a web of connections binding everyone in the Empire and beyond.

I think that would be neat and would be a great setup for a Great Spirit. Would be a hell of a revelation though.
 
Turn 13:Arc 6-4
"It's already spoken for," Ling Qi said.She could sympathize, a little, but not enough to hand over a prize for nothing and risk insulting one of the great families of the Empire. She felt sure that it was the right choice, but… it did make her feel a little unhappy. "You're people should do your best to convince your fellows that war with the Empire will only bring more such losses."

"Understood," Tcho-Ri said. They didn't make any show of being upset, merely resigned.

"I-" Ling Qi frowned. "I wish you and the people of Ha-yith-Kai well under our protection envoy, as far as that goes."

It felt awkward and perfunctory, more than pleasantries usually were. This was the way things were though, and changing them was beyond Ling Qi. It still rankled a little though.Maybe that was just Shu Yue's words rattling in her head though. It was the first time someone had ever called her unambitious.

Ling Qi wandered out into the garden, standing in the shadow of the glittering fountain in its center and stopped a moment to think. Why did she sympathize with this shishigui. Was it the suit which had the unsettling and ugly face, the setting, their clear submission and resignation toward a power greater than them?

"I think you're more empathetic than you think you are, but only when you talk to people directly," Sixiang whispered.

Ling Qi lowered her head looking into the rippling waters at the fountain's base. Sixiang was overestimating her, she was a selfish girl. When she was better, it was an active effort on her part. It didn't come naturally.

"I'm not sure that's a refutation.'Cause you do make that effort, you know?" Sixiang said.

Ling Qi let out a huff of breath, ice crystalizing briefly in the mist around her. Seeking something beyond her own lifetime huh?

"Is this a poor moment, baroness Ling?"

She looked up to see Wang Lian standing beside her, facing the fountain as well.

"No, just contemplating the Way," Ling Qi said wryly. "What can I help you with Lady Wang?"

"I thought we should discuss some details of the arrangement we spoke of, now that time allows," the older woman said.

Ling Qi nodded, and they began to talk.

It was a pleasant enough conversation, they couldn't set precise dates yet, but Wang Lian provided her some numbers and information she could pass to her liege, and Ling Qi was able to provide her with more information on what Wang Chao had been up to, as well as giving some thoughts on her lieges plans going forward

Mountain Halls Questline Begun, to advance, Complete Mountain Survey Exploration actions and select a base site.

She also broached her plans for tomorrow, just in case Wang Chao forgot, thankfully as they didn't intend to leave the Sect grounds a lack of chaperone wouldn't be a problem. With that addressed, she soon parted ways with the elder Wang, and began to mingle with the rest of the noble guests.

She spoke with friendly Bao and quiet Luo, with Viscounts and barons, and at each turn she maintained what she had said, putting forth confidence in the project she and her liege had taken up, putting words to the value of peace and stubbornly sticking to their belief in ancestral connection. With some this was accepted with grace, with others… less so.

It was exhausting.

***​
But there was pay off, at the end.

"-So of course, I had to just smile through and pretend I hadn't just been backhandedly called a savage," Ling Qi grumbled curling up in the plush armchair, that had been set out for her. She cradled a cup of watered wine, so cold it was nearly slush.

"How terrible, you've marked the miscreants name in your mind then?" Meizhen said idly. She was stretched out on a dark divan, across from Ling Qi.

"Spirits no, I've already forgotten his face," Ling Qi replied, scrunching up her nose in disgust. "Uh… brown hair, kind of twiggy. Oh, he had a kind of piggy nose."

"You are too lax with your foes," Xiao Fen sniffed. She sat on the arm of the divan by Meizhen's feet. Unlike her mistress she was incredibly stiff, and the drink in her hands, some kind of northern fruit juice was completely untouched. Meizhen had to prod her just to get her to take it.

"It's okay, I remember, if it ever becomes relevant again. Third grandson of a viscount- uh," Sixiang paused in thought, their illusory figure rubbing their chin from their own perch on the arm of Ling Qi's chair. "Qiao, yeah that was it."

"Truly, you are in disarray if your muse must take up your responsibilities," Meizhen chuckled. "You must find it appalling, yes Renxiang?"

"Hm? Ling Qi's ways are unorthodox, but she produces results. A single grandchild is likely not worth investigation," her liege said, cracking open her eyes. She sat straight and unruffled in an elaborately embroidered seat with much less plush padding than Ling Qi's chair, or Meizhen's divan. In her hands she held a single steaming cup of black tea, whose rich earthen scent Ling Qi could catch even from here.

She recognized it as a blend Renxiang favored when in the midst of a very large workload. There were some signs of strain in her lieges expression, though no where near as bad as when she had been alone with her Mother last year.

So Ling Qi smiled, and didn't comment on it. This gathering was meant to let them all unwind. Officially of course, it was just for the two of them. "I wasn't the only one enduring troubles though, was I Lady Renxiang?"

"Yes, that Guo fellow was quite insistent on your attention wasn't he," Meizhen chuckled. "You maintained your poise well."

"His compliments were appropriate, and his pursuit not untoward," Renxiang said with a shrug. "His attraction is useful. I managed to find that an official embassy for Zheng ambassadors is being built in the capital of their province, for example, amongst other gossip of the fields."

"Truly? Those apes going out of their way to be... formal?" Meizhen asked in disbelief. "Truly, the world is turning on its head."

"Perhaps," Renxiang said. "I noticed that you had your own suitors."

Meizhen grimaced. "Let us not speak of that."

"Was Bao Qingling not invited?" Ling Qi asked. "She is the daughter of the Bao head."

Meizhen frowned faintly reaching to touch the pale blue sash at her waist. "She declined. I agree with her decision. It is not a venue for her."

"Is everything okay?" Ling Qi asked, straightening up and leaning forward.

"We have had some disagreements while you were away," Meizhen replied. "But… it has been for the better I think. We understand one another better now. Do not be concerned."

Xiao Fen looked deeply conflicted, and actually took a drink, when she noticed Ling Qi looking her way.

Ling Qi studied her friend for a long moment, but nodded, and fell back into her chair.

"Nosy," Sixiang teased silently.

Like you don't want to know, Ling Qi thought grouchily. She glanced toward Renxiang, who seemed content to sit and let the steam of her tea waft over her face, only rarely taking a sip.

"What of you Renxiang? Did your mother have anything to reveal to you?" Meizhen asked idly.

"Ling Qi and I will visit my sister tomorrow," Renxiang said. "The Sun delegation will also arrive tomorrow."

"Wait, what, go back to that first thing," Ling Qi said. She was going to be allowed to do that?

"I am not going alone," her liege replied stiffly, fingers tightening around her cup.

"...I see," Meizhen said. "I suppose the security must be sufficient that there is no threat from a third realm."

They all fell silent at that, the air growing more solemn as the consideration of what could have brought an unprotected infant outside the fortress of Xiangmen settled in.

"Yes," Renxiang said, short and clipped. "This is above our heads."

Ling Qi supposed it was.

"Well, getting back to what's in front of us. What do the other provinces think of our venture, Lady Renxiang?" Ling Qi said.

"As we suspected. The Zheng see it as a grand adventure, the Lakes are officially supportive but internally ambivalent," Cai Renxiang replied.

Meizhen tipped her head in apology. "The Duchess has sold it well, and her successful subjugation helps, but my kin do not easily approve of diplomacy."

Renxiang nodded faintly. "The Fields are ambivalent of course, but the Capital and Sands have signalled some disapproval. I believe we may need to accommodate an Imperial observer in our plans."

Ling Qi blinked and then frowned. That was unexpected. "The throne does not consider this provincial business?"

"The Throne has signalled that it has an interest in the matter," Lady Renxiang replied. "But is still to allow the Duchess' lead."

"Hmph, absent when they are needed, ever present when unwanted," Meizhen sniffed.

"D'you think they'll send someone who will mess things up?" Sixiang asked.

"I… do not know," Cai Renxiang said. "But it is a factor we will have to account for."

"Well, we'll work it out," Ling Qi said with a frown. "What is the plan for tomorrow anyway. I know our outline, but…"
"As the junior generation we will be leaving the adults to their business tomorrow," Meizhen said. "But we are expected to attend the tournament together. Trust building of course. I should like your continued assistance in deciphering the intentions of my assigned subordinates."

"Just whose retainer is Ling Qi?" Renxiang said over the rim of her cup.

"Yours, though only because I let her go," Meizhen teased.

"I am sitting right here," Ling Qi huffed.

"So you are," Meizhen said blithely. "What do you think of them by the by, aside from your admiration of Lao Keung's physique."

"Meizhen," Ling Qi hissed. "Spirits, I wasn't obvious right?"

"No, I just know you," Meizhen replied smugly.

"A match with the Thousand Lakes would not be terrible," Renxiang mused. "It would have disadvantages over an internal match, but not insurmountable ones. There would be benefits to the alliance as well."

"Lady Renxiang," Ling Qi complained, only to sigh. "I don't have too much of a read yet, I've only known them for a few hours. Lao Keung has some resentment in him a think, but it is not indiviualized. Xia Anxi is very prideful, but he seems frightened of you, Meizhen."

"As is proper," Xiao Fen sniffed, breaking her silence.

"Inevitable, but it does make things difficult if they will not speak plainly," Meizhen said. "If I were to hint that I want you accompanied for part of tomorrows festivities, which do you prefer?""

Ling Qi pondered that, teasing aside, this was for the purpose of giving Meizhen a better handle on the people assigned to her, which did she think she could handle better?

[] Xia Anxi, since they had some shared interests.
[] Lao Keung, who seemed more down to earth.
 
She spoke with friendly Bao and quiet Luo, with Viscounts and barons, and at each turn she maintained what she had said, putting forth confidence in the project she and her liege had taken up, putting words to the value of peace and stubbornly sticking to their belief in ancestral connection. With some this was accepted with grace, with others… less so.

It was exhausting.

***​
But there was pay off, at the end.

"-So of course, I had to just smile through and pretend I hadn't just been backhandedly called a savage," Ling Qi grumbled curling up in the plush armchair, that had been set out for her. She cradled a cup of watered wine, so cold it was nearly slush.

"How terrible, you've marked the miscreants name in your mind then?" Meizhen said idly. She was stretched out on a dark divan, across from Ling Qi.

"Spirits no, I've already forgotten his face," Ling Qi replied, scrunching up her nose in disgust. "Uh… brown hair, kind of twiggy. Oh, he had a kind of piggy nose."
Heh...

Only the worthy are remembered in Ling Qi's mind!
 
"Ling Qi and I will visit my sister tomorrow," Renxiang said. "The Sun delegation will also arrive tomorrow."

"Wait, what, go back to that first thing," Ling Qi said. She was going to be allowed to do that?
... I kinda feel nervous about this. Either it will be totally adorable or the reason why there is a baby in an active war zone reveals itself ... potentially both.
 
"Well, we'll work it out," Ling Qi said with a frown. "What is the plan for tomorrow anyway. I know our outline, but…"
"As the junior generation we will be leaving the adults to their business tomorrow," Meizhen said. "But we are expected to attend the tournament together. Trust building of course. I should like your continued assistance in deciphering the intentions of my assigned subordinates."

"Just whose retainer is Ling Qi?" Renxiang said over the rim of her cup.

"Yours, though only because I let her go," Meizhen teased.
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