Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)

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I'm struggling to remember Renshu - when did he come up?
Dude she found out in the forest before the tournament... he's come up a few times. He was at one of the villages in the arc where that elder died and that dude lost his arm.
No, that was Shen Hu.
Yan Renshu was the worm boy we stole from and brought his entire faction down back in the outer sect. He was the person that tried to poison Zhengui and the person that we hated most in the sect.
Yeah, this is correct. Yan Renshu was the guy who tried to frame us for assualting other sect members early in Forge and who's base we sabotaged. Well, we infiltrated the base with intention of retrieving the incriminating evidence CRX requested...and when we couldn't do it stealthily, we ended up blowing his whole operation wide open, including the fact that he was blackmailing other students using pretty shady methods.
 
Did LQ not embrace the Wind thief? To act and steal the gods treasure? Does that not take guts?

The Thief also spent a long time preparing herself, to be sure to act only when she could succeed. I think it's much the same right now - there's bravery and there's recklessness. I think going for the metaphorical throat ourselves is the latter.
 
So vote probably is lower dc social faux/higher dc selling idea on the first option vs higher dc social faux/lower dc selling idea maybe on the second.
 
Just my opinion, but... with what we know about Opression Mom social flubs would mean social homework. While trying to sell idea would put us in her good books even with social flubs and even if she will reject it.

PS. Essentially while others are important, Duchess is ten times more important than rest of them combined. Yes, social flubs would cause problems in the future. It's still worth it.
 
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Lol when Han Jian, Han Fang, and my boi Gan Flexington get to Inner in a couple months, it's going to be like those Vietnam War movies when the fresh faced fngs get in country and all these hollow eyed vets just stare at them in dispassionate pity except it's us we're the old hands
 
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[] Cai Renxiang will make her report, and segue into giving you a chance to speak yourself in reporting on this detail in particular. (Higher chance for social flubs, more ability to sell your idea.)
 
Remember, Shenhua has repeatedly made clear towards her vassals that she values our personal archievements. Any other Court would probably deny us, solely based on being a young house, but the Cai rely on their own young houses as power bases.
A young retainer making a strategically sound decision and bringing up possibly another front for the enemy of the empire to deal with for little resources? That sounds amazing for the reputation of the Cai.
 
I've voted something like this before and I'm doing it again.

If it involves dice, then all bets are off. I'm automatically voting for the lowest DC. Too much pressure.
 
If people are actually serious about trying to avert a war with the Ice Ladies instead of just saying so and quitting the second it gets slightly tough (like in the Bloody Moon dream where this exact same argument popped up) then Option 2 is the only acceptable choice.
I would like to not repeat the Bloody moon end, thank you very much. How does this parallel with the bloody moon choice, though?
 
I've voted something like this before and I'm doing it again.

If it involves dice, then all bets are off. I'm automatically voting for the lowest DC. Too much pressure.
Thing is - it involves two rolls. And re-distributes chance success between them. So it's either HighDC Social/LowDC Project or other way around. And involves (at least potential) gains on one route that wouldn't be present on other.
 
Is anyone else interested in how we missed signs of Jiao fighting? Jiao is a penultimate realm cultivator. Much stronger than the Elders that went with us. And when ours fought, it was golden giants that catch starts, giant ships and a demon army. The collateral destruction was insane and probably felt for tens of miles around. Yet when Jiao fought, Ling Qi felt nothing.
 
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[] Cai Renxiang will make her report, and segue into giving you a chance to speak yourself in reporting on this detail in particular. (Higher chance for social flubs, more ability to sell your idea.)
 
The Thief also spent a long time preparing herself, to be sure to act only when she could succeed. I think it's much the same right now - there's bravery and there's recklessness. I think going for the metaphorical throat ourselves is the latter.
Yeah, like, I see the thematic link there - but insisting on doing things ourselves could also just be seen as an ignorant overreaction. Like, it's not as if any option just drops things - it's just that the other lets the person with the correct expertise do most of the talking. Like, hell, even in normal meetings it would be normal for your boss to do most of the presentation and argument, only drawing upon you when specific domain expertise needs to be referred to.

And tbh I'm kinda as much about supporting Renxiang and her position as anything else?
 
Is anyone else interested in how we missed signs of Jiao fighting? Jiao is a penultimate realm cultivator. Much stronger than the Elders that went with us. And when ours fought, it was golden giants that catch starts, giant ships and demon army. The collateral destruction was insane and probably felt for tens of miles around. Yet when Jiao fought, Ling Qi felt nothing.
Literally hundreds if not thousands of Kilometers away
 
The Thief also spent a long time preparing herself, to be sure to act only when she could succeed. I think it's much the same right now - there's bravery and there's recklessness. I think going for the metaphorical throat ourselves is the latter.
Yeah exactly. In other words, there's bravery and there's stupidity. LQ isn't that good at social stats yet. If we roll low and she makes a fool of herself, Shenhua isn't going to think well of her at all. She's just gonna be irritated with the young girl who clearly isn't ready for the court. If LQ rolls below a 60 or something, it won't matter how much Shenhua values us taking the initiative or bringing new opportunities. It won't seem like that to her because we came off as a socially graceless dumbass in front of her entire court. It is so not worth the risk to start off our reputation in court with appearing to be a complete fool.
All the positives of us taking point only happen if we roll high. I know people are excited about the prospect of checking out this ice nation but it won't happen anyway if we roll badly.
 
Is anyone else interested in how we missed signed of Jiao fighting? Jiao is a penultimate realm cultivator. Much stronger than the Elders that went with us. And when ours fought, it was golden giants that catch starts, giant ships and demon army. The collateral destruction was insane and probably felt for tens of miles around. Yet when Jiao fought, Ling Qi felt nothing.
Well, we were at the location of the Elder fight; they were literally in sight of us. Jiao on the other hand was somewhere else entirely, likely far away, and underground.
 
I would like to not repeat the Bloody moon end, thank you very much. How does this parallel with the bloody moon choice, though?
We're in the same situation of "Ling Qi wants to speak to a powerful person in order to see if she can change their mind" and given the choice to either follow through (and have a higher chance of success) or pull back (and have a higher chance of failure).

The choice has the potential to avert a similar bloody event and the main reason given for not going for it is "fear of personal setbacks" along with "Ling Qi is bad at social so she shouldn't even try to do what she actually wants"

Like the main thing people are most freaking out over is "looking bad in front of nobles" and not "failing to convince the Duchess to not open a third front in the war" despite the latter being even more serious and unavoidable.

Yeah, like, I see the thematic link there - but insisting on doing things ourselves could also just be seen as an ignorant overreaction. Like, it's not as if any option just drops things - it's just that the other lets the person with the correct expertise do most of the talking. Like, hell, even in normal meetings it would be normal for your boss to do most of the presentation and argument, only drawing upon you when specific domain expertise needs to be referred to.

And tbh I'm kinda as much about supporting Renxiang and her position as anything else?
Yeah exactly. In other words, there's bravery and there's stupidity. LQ isn't that good at social stats yet. If we roll low and she makes a fool of herself, Shenhua isn't going to think well of her at all. She's just gonna be irritated with the young girl who clearly isn't ready for the court. If LQ rolls below a 60 or something, it won't matter how much Shenhua values us taking the initiative or bringing new opportunities. It won't seem like that to her because we came off as a socially graceless dumbass in front of her entire court. It is so not worth the risk to start off our reputation in court with appearing to be a complete fool.
All the positives of us taking point only happen if we roll high. I know people are excited about the prospect of checking out this ice nation but it won't happen anyway if we roll badly.
If Renxiang had the correct expertise she'd be more likely to convince Shenhua of Ling Qi's idea not less, so that doesn't actually track with what the vote options say.

Ling Qi is the one who is more likely to convince Shenhua, not CRX.

CRX only has a lower chance not to look like a derp in front of the court, convincing Shenhua (the only one whose opinion really matters) is a separate issue.
 
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