Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)

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"I am glad that I can provide her and my sister with comfort and safety. I am glad that I can keep them close. Is it troubling for you?" Ling Qi said, reaching for the door. "I know your uncles came to visit last year, but did your parents?"

"No," Xuan Shi replied. It was surprisingly curt.

Ling Qi winced. "I apologize for my presumption. I didn't mean to offend. Are- Do they…" she stumbled on her words. Ling Qi cursed internally, she'd gone and made a mistake again.

"Miss Ling did not offend. I do not know their faces, so there is no pain in absence," Xuan Shi replied evenly. "This one is grateful for the attention given by the honored Admirals."

So I wonder, is this something unique to Xuan Shi, or do Xuan in general like bury their babies in the sand and then wait for toddlers to run out into the ocean where they then fish them out to join the clan?
 
Well, QiMom did fall in love and broke off her engagement for empty promises.

Of Course she has an entirely different perspective to Qi.


And now the real question:
Did Xuan Shi only pretend to not know what they found on their last outing after seeing Qi's reaction? :p
 
[x] Leave the subject alone, there is no point in making things awkward. Try to continue as before.
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No more heart demons please.
I don't think that the sincerity insight means that we have to be 100% overt and confrontational about every interaction we have. "Wait and gather more info" is viable; not that I'm saying we should do that, I just think talk of heart demons is alarmist.
 
Xuan Shi studied them intently from a pace or two behind her. "This one has always been ill equipped for the consumption of animal flesh. Though cultivation transcends such matters, the preference remains."
omg he is a nerdy vegetarian!

Wow, she finally figured it out. And all it took was someone telling her.
These are the things we need mom for

leaning to this, let her sit on the idea for a while
[] Leave the subject alone, there is no point in making things awkward. Try to continue as before.
 
*looks side eye*

I personally doubt it. It might be straining but I'm not going to automatically assume this vote is "get a heart demon" or "don't get a heart demon". Trap options aren't exactly fun IMO.

Oh to be clear I don't think that's the vote either.

That would happen if we put it off here, put it off later, put if off with a different guy, then took another Insight that says you shouldn't put things off.
 
I think we're being unfair to Xuan shi by leading him on like this.
He hasn't been "lead on" in the slightest. Even without Ling Qi's obliviousness, he hasn't actually indicated that he's interested in anything other than friendship. Sure, he'd probably be overjoyed if she initiated something, but that doesn't obligate her to. She hasn't taken advantage of his crush, and has made sure to be fair when working with him. If he doesn't want to say something, then it's entirely reasonable for Ling Qi to respect that choice and also not bring it up.
 
Guys, we know better. We are supposed to have learned from Meizhen and Lakegate and the stringing her along afterwards. If we let the status quo continue we will be regressing in all the worst ways. This isnt about whether you like him or not (personally I hope a better boyfriend comes along). This is about Ling Qi growing up and doing the right thing.

[] Find a way to broach the subject, and figure out what he wants. You don't want him to misinterpret things.
 
Personally I don't really see the leave the subject alone as a "sit on it and consider it" option. Ling Qi isn't one that's really suited to contemplation of these sorts of topics, and sort of had to flail her way through with Meizhen. Sitting on it seems more like a flinch/defense mechanism.

In general as well you could I think also take the "confront" option to be a more general confrontation of things in her personal life. Like her anxiety over her family as shown so well with the scene with her mother.

Oh to be clear I don't think that's the vote either.

That would happen if we put it off here, put it off later, put if off with a different guy, then took another Insight that says you shouldn't put things off.
I did not get that from your post.
 
... That tricksy dream fox is seducing Turtle Boi, isn't it?
They REALLY liked his willingness to do a last stand for relative strangers.

but that boy out front…. Look at him go, gonna kill himself for a bunch of people who barely know his name. How tragic," the open ecstasy in the spirits voice was deeply unnerving.
Who knows what situations they can watch our precious cinnebon turtle get into and end in tragedy

Possible the first thing they will watch him do is get dumped by his crush. Unf that's the good nightmare stuff
 
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In my opinion, this follows pretty clearly.

No more heart demons please.
By a strict reading, Ling Qi has no "I am worthy" insight, so even if she's completely insincere she won't necessarily get a heart demon- just a lot of self-loathing. It's completely compatible with her cultivation worldview to believe herself worthless.

It wouldn't be a personally healthy mindset, but a heart demon is a very specific mechanic and I don't think that one can emerge from insincerity alone; it would have to clash with another insight in the context of Ling Qi's actions. We've seen multiple examples before of how cultivators can continue growing more powerful even if they have beliefs that make them hate themselves.
 
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[] Leave the subject alone, there is no point in making things awkward. Try to continue as before.

I say leave things as they are, but use this "warning" to be more aware of votes surrounding Xuan Shi in both the meta sense and the in-character sense.
 
This is a woman who doesn't understand her daughter at all.
This is a woman terrified that her daughter might mirror her own catastrophe.

It does kinda betray that there's a lot about Ling Qi she doesn't know about, but that particular neurosis is something Ling Qi developed after/when running away and given that she literally never mentioned anything about romance or the betrothal offers she got to her mom (and the fact that Ling Qi deliberately keeps the topic at arms length at all times), it's not surprising that Qingge isn't aware yet.
At best Qingge would have had to guess at reasons Ling Qi doesn't mention anything about crushes or boys to her, but that could have had a lot of reasons, so she defaulted to, well, the kinda thing Qingge got caught up in herself.
 
This is a woman terrified that her daughter might mirror her own catastrophe.

It does kinda betray that there's a lot about Ling Qi she doesn't know about, but that particular neurosis is something Ling Qi developed after/when running away and given that she literally never mentioned anything about romance or the betrothal offers she got to her mom (and the fact that Ling Qi deliberately keeps the topic at arms length at all times), it's not surprising that Qingge isn't aware yet.
At best Qingge would have had to guess at reasons Ling Qi doesn't mention anything about crushes or boys to her, but that could have had a lot of reasons, so she defaulted to, well, the kinda thing Qingge got caught up in herself.
Yes, which means that they have a very key part of themselves they just don't understand about the other, and it's one that would be worth exploring in the future.
 
Thinking back, I can only identify 3-4 decisions I made as a teenager with the thought process "no point in making things awkward".

They were all mistakes.
 
And she still had to figure out how she was going to talk to Xuan Shi tomorrow.

[] Leave the subject alone, there is no point in making things awkward. Try to continue as before.
[] Find a way to broach the subject, and figure out what he wants. You don't want him to misinterpret things.
Ohnohnohnohnowhatdowedo?!?!?!

...... I'd vote for the first reflexively.... but but but but would Xuan Shi notice?!
 
This is a woman terrified that her daughter might mirror her own catastrophe.

It does kinda betray that there's a lot about Ling Qi she doesn't know about, but that particular neurosis is something Ling Qi developed after/when running away and given that she literally never mentioned anything about romance or the betrothal offers she got to her mom (and the fact that Ling Qi deliberately keeps the topic at arms length at all times), it's not surprising that Qingge isn't aware yet.
At best Qingge would have had to guess at reasons Ling Qi doesn't mention anything about crushes or boys to her, but that could have had a lot of reasons, so she defaulted to, well, the kinda thing Qingge got caught up in herself.
It's not clear to me that Ling Qi understands that she perceives all hints of interest as threatening because the first time she experienced it was when one of her mother's clients tried to buy a night with her. When she was ten. She just seems to have internalized that romantic/sexual interest (and to her I think they gloss as basically the same thing?) is scary and exploitative and so, when her brain tries to reconcile "all romantic interest is predatory" with "the most herbivorous of boys, Xuan fucking Shi, is interested in me," she segfaults.
 
She just seems to have internalized that romantic/sexual interest (and to her I think they gloss as basically the same thing?) is scary and exploitative and so, when her brain tries to reconcile "all romantic interest is predatory" with "the most herbivorous of boys, Xuan fucking Shi, is interested in me," she segfaults.

I think you're dead on. That juxtaposition is one of the things that makes this ship so appealing to me.


The other and more important is of course, shipping rights.

Not slang, actual shipping rights for lumber.

God damn do I love subplots about shipping wood.

This is actually not innuendo, I'm a history buff with a weird niche.
 
Given her backstory it's understandable for Qi Mom to be scared of "unproper relations" and consequences given how important her peers tend to be.
Yes, it's exactly the kind of concern that she would have. This scene demonstrates clashing beliefs and backgrounds at least as well as two cultivators with their magically enforced static mindsets.

Eh, I don't think so. From Qingqe's framework, the two of them being in the panic room without her to chaperone was borderline scandalous.

If she does that under her mother's nose, it's reasonable to assume she does more things elsewhere. At least reasonable enough to ask the question.
Yes, it makes sense from her framework. The fact that she is asking a question which makes perfect sense from her own perspective but is utterly ridiculous and appalling from Ling Qi's perspective is the proof that she lacks understanding of Ling Qi.

This is a woman terrified that her daughter might mirror her own catastrophe.

It does kinda betray that there's a lot about Ling Qi she doesn't know about, but that particular neurosis is something Ling Qi developed after/when running away and given that she literally never mentioned anything about romance or the betrothal offers she got to her mom (and the fact that Ling Qi deliberately keeps the topic at arms length at all times), it's not surprising that Qingge isn't aware yet.
At best Qingge would have had to guess at reasons Ling Qi doesn't mention anything about crushes or boys to her, but that could have had a lot of reasons, so she defaulted to, well, the kinda thing Qingge got caught up in herself.
Yes, it's clear exactly why Qingge would be worried about that and it makes perfect sense from the context of her background. If she knew anything meaningful about Ling Qi's mindset with regard to interpersonal relationships, short-to-medium-term plans for the future, and trying to fit into her new social class, she'd have known that the question was one that didn't need to be asked.

Mostly, the fact that she asked it was a good demonstration that even if we've spent a bunch of actions and effort on family that doesn't mean they have any meaningful comprehension of one another as people, particularly with regard to sensitive or deep-seated issues. There's a massive gulf in mindset between them that still needs to be bridged- and because their lives are actively evolving their mindsets are changing too, so I'm not sure it's a problem that will ever grow smaller no matter what reasonable efforts are taken to acknowledge and handle it.
 
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Oh my ... not sure my heart can take this!

what - oh Heaven! - is the shipping option here? Probably the waiting and letting develop option, this "don't let him misinterpret" sounds too much like confronting and letting him down gently if there is an interest. Aaarrrggggbhhhh
 
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