Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)

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[X] Carefully accepted. She had to begin dialing down her discomfort somewhere. [Potentially, Information and improved relationship with Bao Qian, Ling Qi uncomfortable, potentially negative outcome.]
 
I mean, I think LQ is only being insincere if she pretends that she's having a good time when she isn't. Doing something you'd prefer not to do because it's important, useful, or you're deliberately trying to expand your comfort zone isn't insincere, it's mature.

The "accept invitation to dinner" option is not worded in such a way as to suggest that she is planning to lie. It's careful acceptance and beginning to dial down her discomfort, not "I will put on a false face."
A date is supposed to be about mutual enjoyment. That is quite literally the whole point of it. If you hide your discomfort so the other person will enjoy themselves, while you are not lying you are not being very sincere either. If you don't hide your discomfort, the date will be a painful affair for everyone involved. Empathy means it is hard for most people to enjoy themselves while they can tell that their date would clearly prefer to be in a fight to the death. If Ling Qi has a bad time, it's not just her who'll be miserable.

[X] Blurted out a request to spar instead, that helped cultivators understand each other, right?! [Lesser information and improved relationship with Bao Qian, Ling Qi spared a bad time]
 
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[X] Carefully accepted. She had to begin dialing down her discomfort somewhere. [Potentially, Information and improved relationship with Bao Qian, Ling Qi uncomfortable, potentially negative outcome.]

I'm surprised spar isn't leading right now
 
A date is supposed to be about mutual enjoyment. That is quite literally the whole point of it. If you hide your discomfort so the other person will enjoy themselves, while you are not lying you are not being very sincere either. If you don't hide your discomfort, the date will be a painful affair for everyone involved. Empathy means it is hard for most people to enjoy themselves while they can tell that their date would clearly prefer to be in a fight to the death. If Ling Qi has a bad time, it's not just her who'll be miserable.
He's been quite fair and wants to be in good graces with us we just need to extend the same to him, plus Ling Qi can grow as a person with this option.
 
He's been quite fair and wants to be in good graces with us we just need to extend the same to him, plus Ling Qi can grow as a person with this option.
And that has nothing to do with my point. A date is about mutual enjoyment. Not about thanking someone, and certainly not about Ling Qi's personal growth. That is exactly the wrong attitude to take towards something that is supposed to be a date.
 
[X] Carefully accepted. She had to begin dialing down her discomfort somewhere. [Potentially, Information and improved relationship with Bao Qian, Ling Qi uncomfortable, potentially negative outcome.]
 
A date is supposed to be about mutual enjoyment. That is quite literally the whole point of it. If you hide your discomfort so the other person will enjoy themselves, while you are not lying you are not being very sincere either. If you don't hide your discomfort, the date will be a painful affair for everyone involved as empathy means it is hard for most people to enjoy themselves while their date would clearly prefer a fight to the death.

[X] Blurted out a request to spar instead, that helped cultivators understand each other, right?! [Lesser information and improved relationship with Bao Qian, Ling Qi spared a bad time]
Well they could just talk about it. LQ can just say in her sincere and blunt way why she's uncomfortable. She doesn't have to go into details. She can just say something like "I have some bad associations with romance." Bao Qian, because he is clearly very tactful to have treaded so carefully around her, will likely say something like "well is there anything I can do to help?" and she can cut right to the heart of the matter--"I need to know who you really are. Complete sincerity." Which is what she really needs to know.
I'm not saying its going to go like that. I'm just saying its possible that it might go more that way rather than be a complete disaster. Sixiang will likely be there too, she can keep LQ calm while giving advice.
 
And that has nothing to do with my point. A date is about mutual enjoyment. Not about thanking someone, and certainly not about Ling Qi's personal growth. That is exactly the wrong attitude to take towards something that is supposed to be a date.
..All experiences can be about personal growth. Anything can be. If someone decides they want to face their fears, and that involves a date, what's wrong with that? Its not like LQ would be forced to or something. She would be deciding to of her volition because as a person and cultivator, you need to push boundaries in order to progress (iicr).
 
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Well they could just talk about it. LQ can just say in her sincere and blunt way why she's uncomfortable. She doesn't have to go into details. She can just say something like "I have some bad associations with romance." Bao Qian, because he is clearly very tactful to have treaded so carefully around her, will likely say something like "well is there anything I can do to help?" and she can cut right to the heart of the matter--"I need to know who you really are. Complete sincerity." Which is what she really needs to know.
I'm not saying its going to go like that. I'm just saying its possible that it might go more that way rather than be a complete disaster. Sixiang will likely be there too, she can keep LQ calm while giving advice.
It isn't going to go like that, and if it did it'd be a disaster besides. Demanding that he tells everything about himself won't do any good, it'll just quite rightly spook him since it is exactly the attitude of a paranoid with no social graces. Sixiang will rightly tell Ling Qi to not do that, and then to make some small talk or something. I have no doubts in our ability to do that, that is completely not the concern.

The concern is that all the good execution in the world won't do a thing to hide the fact that Ling Qi isn't actually enjoying the date, it's not like we have the good social arts ready and the guy has a cultivation advantage anyways.
 
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[X] Carefully accepted. She had to begin dialing down her discomfort somewhere. [Potentially, Information and improved relationship with Bao Qian, Ling Qi uncomfortable, potentially negative outcome.]
 
[X] Carefully accepted. She had to begin dialing down her discomfort somewhere. [Potentially, Information and improved relationship with Bao Qian, Ling Qi uncomfortable, potentially negative outcome.]

verrry carefullyy
 
[X] Carefully accepted. She had to begin dialing down her discomfort somewhere. [Potentially, Information and improved relationship with Bao Qian, Ling Qi uncomfortable, potentially negative outcome.]
 
Really? You think he'd be so easily spooked? I think with his social arts, he has to know by now that she values being sincere and upfront. I mean, it's only logical that if you know someone prefers being blunt and direct in a social interaction, you might need to reciprocate that way of communicating. I'd think he knows by now that he has to be sincere with her if he wants to get anywhere. When we first met him, he practically quoted our SCS insight to us which strongly indicates his social arts allows him to see other cultivators' insights.
 
The concern is that all the good execution in the world won't do a thing to hide the fact that Ling Qi isn't actually enjoying the date, it's not like we have the good social arts ready and the guy has a cultivation advantage anyways.
Then we tell him were not enjoying it, not that its such a disaster well work around it, again he REALLY wants to be friends bare minimum and in his own words isn't that interested in marriage.
Just a friendly guy interested in the strange but interesting grabby hand little ghost with a giant turtlesnek for a son/brother.
 
[X] Carefully accepted. She had to begin dialing down her discomfort somewhere. [Potentially, Information and improved relationship with Bao Qian, Ling Qi uncomfortable, potentially negative outcome.]
 
Then we tell him were not enjoying it, not that its such a disaster well work around it, again he REALLY wants to be friends bare minimum and in his own words isn't that interested in marriage.
Just a friendly guy interested in the strange but interesting grabby hand little ghost with a giant turtlesnek for a son/brother.
Yeah, but if we went with the spar instead, Ling Qi may actually enjoy it, and this may lead to more dates and some actual success here.
 
[X] Carefully accepted. She had to begin dialing down her discomfort somewhere. [Potentially, Information and improved relationship with Bao Qian, Ling Qi uncomfortable, potentially negative outcome.]
 
Yeah, but if we went with the spar instead, Ling Qi may actually enjoy it, and this may lead to more dates and some actual success here.
That's true. And you might be right.
However, the date option might mean getting the awkward conversation out of the way which would lead to more sincerity. Which might make LQ more comfortable with Bao Qian in the future. Which might mean more dates.
Both options have potential is my point.
 
[X] Carefully accepted. She had to begin dialing down her discomfort somewhere. [Potentially, Information and improved relationship with Bao Qian, Ling Qi uncomfortable, potentially negative outcome.]
 
And if the date fails spectacularly he won't hold it against us, thats the best part and we can always go for that spar some other time for the battle maniacs in the thread.
 
[X] Carefully accepted. She had to begin dialing down her discomfort somewhere. [Potentially, Information and improved relationship with Bao Qian, Ling Qi uncomfortable, potentially negative outcome.]
 
And if the date fails spectacularly he won't hold it against us, thats the best part and we can always go for that spar some other time for the battle maniacs in the thread.
I'm pretty sure that is not the case. The spar is the safe option that literally cannot fail. If the date fails, there's an array of ways it can fail. Even if he doesn't hold it against us, we may hold it against him, depending on the nature of the failure.
 
[X] Carefully accepted. She had to begin dialing down her discomfort somewhere. [Potentially, Information and improved relationship with Bao Qian, Ling Qi uncomfortable, potentially negative outcome.]
 
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