Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)
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Wouldn't it also be of use against anyone who uses multi-hit attacks? Or is the system balanced in a way that makes those not particularly useful/threatening anyways.
Arkeus
Crazy cat guy
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It depends on how Yrs calls the multi-attacks, but our incoming armour art at least can protect against all the multi attacks as if it was 'one' attack:
Arkeus
Crazy cat guy
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- France
Multipresence seems like a Cyan ability to me... except Yan Renshu actually could sort of do it. Mmmh.
I think Yan Renshu's puppet technique is more like remote presence than multipresence, presumably he can't do other actions while possessing a puppet.
Also we have only seen true multipresence from Indigo and above, never from any of the Cyans we have meet.
It might be that most Cyans can't do it unless they specialize, kind of like flight is for Greens.
Arkeus
Crazy cat guy
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Actually, mmh. Liao Zhu is kinda close to effective multipresence combat in green, isn't he?
Yeah. If we then wanted to add to this, there was also the idea we had the other day of it giving LW-based counters when IPF is up.
Alright, so just for fun, I threw together a "simple" visual statsheet of where we are now:
And for a fun look at how far we've come, we can compare that to where we were back in Month ~1-2. Or to put it another way "Bwahahaha! We have become as a GOD! A GOD I say!"
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Attributes C B A S SS
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Health B34 ||||||---|---
Qi A18 ||||||---|---|-
Speed A30 ||||||---|---|--
Initiative B35 ||||||---|---
Perception (C) B15 ||||||---|-
Stealth A37 ||||||---|---|---
Perception (S) A0 ||||||---|---|
Poise C10 ||||||-
Dispel D10 |||||
Resist A5 ||||||---|---|
P.Avoid A28 ||||||---|---|--
P.Armor A10 ||||||---|---|-
S.Avoid A8 ||||||---|---|-
S.Armor A10 ||||||---|---|-
Hit (music) A38 ||||||---|---|---
Pen (music) A13 ||||||---|---|-
Domain weapon
Hit A15 ||||||---|---|-
Pen A30 ||||||---|---|--
Avoid B27 ||||||---|--
Armor B27 ||||||---|--
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Attributes C B A S SSAnd for a fun look at how far we've come, we can compare that to where we were back in Month ~1-2. Or to put it another way "Bwahahaha! We have become as a GOD! A GOD I say!"
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Attributes C B A S SS
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Health B15 ||||||---|-
Qi B10 ||||||---|-
Speed C7 ||||||-
Initiative B4 ||||||---|
Perception (C) C5 ||||||-
Stealth C27 ||||||---
Perception (S) C5 ||||||-
Poise E10? ||||
Dispel D10 |||||
Resist B0 ||||||---|
P.Avoid B8 ||||||---|-
P.Armor C17 ||||||--
S.Avoid C6 ||||||-
S.Armor B5 ||||||---|
Hit (music) B25 ||||||---|--
Pen (music) B8 ||||||---|-
Domain weapon
Hit B10 ||||||---|-
Pen B25 ||||||---|--
Avoid C15 ||||||--
Armor C15 ||||||--
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Attributes C B A S SS
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Thoughts on a couple things.
Solutions:
1. Replace the "-15%" part with "adjusted by stealth contest" like how some arts have "adjusted by potency" in their tech effects.
2. Make the fail chance per charge so it starts off strong and stays that way with some luck, but gets worn down. Clarity edit: I meant having attacks run through all the charges in a row, but this could also have been interpretted as the first charge being strongest and progressively weakening as charges are expended.
3. Have the tech ignore enemy rank differentials, so it's numerically middle of the road but scales well against powerful enemy techniques.
This tech really should be updated with one or both of Moon and Dance. It doesn't make sense that Sixiang can't boost PLR or our lunar muse based social art, while being able to boost, say, HDM or SES.
It's pretty neat to see behind the veil to how it actually works, with the numbers and all. Other people have commented on how this isn't very reliable, but there's another aspect to it I don't think anyone's addressed. The tech is rank C. That makes it cheap, but it also means an inherent disadvantage against higher ranked techniques on top of those explicitly detailed in the numbers. I'd expect the effectiveness to be roughly halved against a B rank attack. Considering those are what we really want to block or counter with our own techs, that makes EDD pretty underwhelming and niche. Effectively, the tech suffers from an extra "potency" background modifier, but only against the user, never in their favor. Since it only scales by enemy goodness, and we don't contest it with our goodness. Double the art obsolescence.
Solutions:
1. Replace the "-15%" part with "adjusted by stealth contest" like how some arts have "adjusted by potency" in their tech effects.
2. Make the fail chance per charge so it starts off strong and stays that way with some luck, but gets worn down. Clarity edit: I meant having attacks run through all the charges in a row, but this could also have been interpretted as the first charge being strongest and progressively weakening as charges are expended.
3. Have the tech ignore enemy rank differentials, so it's numerically middle of the road but scales well against powerful enemy techniques.
This is also a good idea. If I follow correctly, basically the dream duplicates would shift into a LW dancer counterattack against attackers when 'popped' by an attack. Doesn't help the low success rate, but it does give an extra punch to success, plus combos are always neat.
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And now: Hanyi!
Or as as we affectionately refer to her: that delicate glass flower that we can't let out of our sight. Also it's a good thing we don't rely on her being able to see anything
And Zhengui:
did u kno that Zhengui has higher Speech than Hanyi? 
Or as as we affectionately refer to her: that delicate glass flower that we can't let out of our sight. Also it's a good thing we don't rely on her being able to see anything
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Attributes C B A S SS
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Health C20 ||||||--
Qi B0 ||||||---|
Speed C20 ||||||--
Initiative D10 |||||
Perception (C) E10 ||||
Stealth D0 |||||
Perception (S) D0 |||||
Poise E10 ||||
Dispel NA
Resist D10 |||||
P.Avoid C15 ||||||--
P.Armor D0 |||||
S.Avoid D15 |||||
S.Armor C20 ||||||--
Hit (music) B20 ||||||---|--
Pen (music) B20 ||||||---|--
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Attributes C B A S SSAnd Zhengui:
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Attributes C B A S SS
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Health B20 ||||||---|--
Qi B8 ||||||---|-
Speed E0 ||||
Initiative E0 ||||
Perception (C) C20 ||||||-- (with LQ in plant-heavy region)
Stealth E0 ||||
Perception (S) F5 |||
Poise D10 ||||
Dispel D0 ||||
Resist C15 ||||||--
P.Avoid E0 ||||
P.Armor A38 ||||||---|---|---
S.Avoid D0 ||||| (with LQ)
S.Armor A8 ||||||---|---|-
Hit (melee) B18 ||||||---|--
Pen (melee, wood) B ||||||---|
Pen (melee, fire) B15 ||||||---|--
Hit (range) B3 ||||||---|
Pen (range, wood) C15 ||||||--
Pen (range, fire) B0 ||||||---|
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Attributes C B A S SS
Black Noise
Curious
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- About 1AU from Sol
For the record, I think LW (and PLR in general) can and should remain counter-free; if we want EDD to be more useful within IPF then give it charge refresh or something.
- Location
- The Temple of the Winds
Nice visual. It seems Ling Qi took a few class levels in facetanking and ninja...
More seriously, i notice the sole skill that didn't increase is Dispel, where we shamelessly (ab)use Six instead.
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fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
If Six ever leaves us we are going to have a huge hole in our build.
- Location
- The Space Between
better husbando. It's the only way <3
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
It is a good thing that we don't have sect duels anymore. Imagine if someone we challenged made it a spiritless fight and was good at debuffs.
- Location
- Somewhere.
okay but can we respect Sixiang's choice of pronouns (and associated titles) when we ship them
....excuse me while I perform linguistic black magic to generate something appropriate...
[insert sound of timer dinging]
The appropriate word for shipping Sixiang with is...
husbaifu.
thanks, y'all
(but seriously though, I keep reading "husbando" and "Sixiang" in the same sentence and wincing every time)
....excuse me while I perform linguistic black magic to generate something appropriate...
[insert sound of timer dinging]
The appropriate word for shipping Sixiang with is...
husbaifu.
thanks, y'all
(but seriously though, I keep reading "husbando" and "Sixiang" in the same sentence and wincing every time)
Oh, another way to iron out EDD's issues is just dropping the perception-based modifier. The perception stuff got stripped from the rest of the art, so it'd be consistent.
Currently, it doesn't make much sense. The flavor is Ling Qi hiding among a bunch of magic clones, hence the %-chance attack negation. Enemies having good perception being able to counter the move makes sense, but so does Ling Qi being able to hide good mitigating that counter. If you only have the first, then the art's user is at a disadvantage that doesn't really make sense.
Not wanting things complicated is fair @yrsillar, but the factor of perception should then either be cut completely, or applied as a contest. Cultivation and art potency are already additional factors to attack v dodge, relative stealth/perception doesn't seem any different to me.
Edit: sidenote, but the fact Ling Qi doesn't have any arts that give her or her surroundings "stealth environment" anymore is pretty funny. Good thing Vanishing means she shouldn't really need any to stealth.
Currently, it doesn't make much sense. The flavor is Ling Qi hiding among a bunch of magic clones, hence the %-chance attack negation. Enemies having good perception being able to counter the move makes sense, but so does Ling Qi being able to hide good mitigating that counter. If you only have the first, then the art's user is at a disadvantage that doesn't really make sense.
Not wanting things complicated is fair @yrsillar, but the factor of perception should then either be cut completely, or applied as a contest. Cultivation and art potency are already additional factors to attack v dodge, relative stealth/perception doesn't seem any different to me.
Edit: sidenote, but the fact Ling Qi doesn't have any arts that give her or her surroundings "stealth environment" anymore is pretty funny. Good thing Vanishing means she shouldn't really need any to stealth.
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1337Procrast
Fire Emblem Enjoyer
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- Australia
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- He/Him
Theyfriend or something like that?
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- New Brunswick, NJ
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- He/Him/His
"supousu"
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- okc
Took me 3 days but I got myself all caught up on this epic quest. Might be an aside but would there be a recc thread for stories like Threads of Destiny. Not neccesarily on this site but like epic long stories like this. I think this would qualify under the wuxia genre?
Varder
Tired Cultist
- Location
- Hell
He has two mouths, of course his speech is higher.
TimEd
Meteor maker
there was
Street Cultivation - a modern wuxia/litrpg hybrid
on rrl. It basically does what it says on the title. Though the Author decided to remove the first volume off rrl due to it being sold on Amazon (and since it sold pretty well, so the Author decided to add the volume 2 on rrl).
On another fic like this though, your out of luck as far as I know.
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- Finland
He is also much taller.
Zhengui for president.