Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)

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I kind of want to make a music art that requires two or more people. We have Hany (and maybe six?) and it would be cool to have a combo art.

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Something that ends up doing 1+1=3
 
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I kind of want to make a music art that requires two or more people. We have Hany (and maybe six?) and it would be cool to have a combo art.

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Something that ends up doing 1+1=3

You know, collective works would be interesting in this setting.

Harmonizing is really just a matter of practice irl, but in this setting, music is a means of externalizing the internal. So then, would making a band require everyone to be on the same page emotionally?
 
That's more focused on breaking them or avoiding them. Because formations are annoying to someone who wants to stealth through protected buildings.

A formation expert focused on breaking security measures would be the perfect person to dip into creating them on the side. A jade slip that plays a pleasant tune as a means of propagating the formation effect wherever the sound reaches could be a versatile security system. The medium that is used for formation probably matters quite a lot to, I would expect for example Cai Light to be very effective against Dark and Shadow but less so against a Sound since those two elements cannot interact. So a tone of Silence that dispels effects or a sharp alarm that detects intruders would be pretty worthwhile since music cultivators are uncommon and anti-music formations equally so.

We could use the Hidden and Dreaming Moon to protect dreams and hide secrets or even objects inside them. Music should perhaps be the best way to affect the dreaming so between her Music, Hidden and Dreaming cultivations Ling Qi might for her stage be the most capable of protecting dreams in the province for a fraction of the effort of a dedicated producer.

I could see us practicing formations as a way to generate wealth if we were incentivized to after the competition. And it would be a good alternative to practicing Arts too since we could design precisely what we wanted rather than train a whole Art once we feel comfortable with our insights.
 
hide secrets or even objects inside them
Are we pulling some HP shit here?

On another note pursuing formations in this way would be interesting and worthwhile. I would argue that it would be less worthwhile than creating full arts though. I think creating an art would be far better for us in utility and what we gain from it. But making a couple of odd formations on the side does sound good.
 
Rather than tossing around semi-obsolete arts that aren't hers to give,
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In any case, I'd rather be leaving Xiulan with something that comes from Ling Qi's heart than something she happens to have on hand anyway.
Bruh. This does come from the heart. It's a staple in our kit, it's a staple of our way (the wooden roots that we saw in our breakthrough dream), it helped us reclaim (or regrow) after loss. It just saved our life in this past scene, gave us the strength to tank the hit to make sure the assassin wouldn't get Xiulan. If it's not ours to give to a fellow disciple I'd be surprised.
I've made a lot of arguments about the narrative and emotional weight that it would have, as opposed to *only* the function. I would want Xiulan to have something so personal from us incorporated into her way, the same that Meizhen has earth and connections incorporated in a way that we influenced.

"a sincere and uncritical "Yer awesome, bro" from someone she respects isn't something I'm sure she's had before. We'd be just handing her a permanent one she can keep in her pocket. Of course, just because it's honest and not critical doesn't mean it can't challenge her or make suggestions to her in other ways. If the melody extends into the future, there's material Ling Qi can draw on. Yanmei's fires, the scale and awesome presence of the prism dragon's power, the efficacy of her steadfast flames when bolstered by Zhengui's Wooden backing.... (Hint hint) Heck, Ling Qi could even slip in some rueful acknowledgement of Xiulan's very successful team up with the growing boy, assuming poking her twoards Wood is something Ling Qi actually thinks might be productive."


See I'm fine with this route too. My main push here is to give Xiulan a gift that says we care and that it's okay to make connections again <3
 
So apparently Lanlan aint gonna be laked.

But i bet her new hubby to be will be.

"Hey babe, you are like sooooo hawt yo. Ouch! Whoa! Chill chill! I am sensing some of dem negative waves boo. "

"i cant believe i miss Fan Yu already. DIE you ...fourth realm...feng shui artist? Mom wtf! "
 
Are we pulling some HP shit here?

On another note pursuing formations in this way would be interesting and worthwhile. I would argue that it would be less worthwhile than creating full arts though. I think creating an art would be far better for us in utility and what we gain from it. But making a couple of odd formations on the side does sound good.
In terms of utility, formations have the advantage of not requiring meridians, which is pretty significant.
 
-Green: Sun meridians unlocked. Sun's difference from Fire is that its a source of power in its own right, that it has Rises Again after going out, and we know it can heal and has some affinity for flight.

Some types of meridians are gated behind Green? Do you have a link to when that mechanic was introduced, because I must have missed it.

I thought all meridian elements were always available, although the imperial 8 and standard five are more common.
 
Some types of meridians are gated behind Green? Do you have a link to when that mechanic was introduced, because I must have missed it.

I thought all meridian elements were always available, although the imperial 8 and standard five are more common.
Some meridians, like Music or Cold, are harder to learn, and arguably need one to have special advantages. They are not gated to Green, though. Likewise, I think we only got moon meridians once we got to green, but that is not I think a green gating as much as 'soft gating'.
 
Some meridians, like Music or Cold, are harder to learn, and arguably need one to have special advantages. They are not gated to Green, though. Likewise, I think we only got moon meridians once we got to green, but that is not I think a green gating as much as 'soft gating'.
Soft gating yeah. Like Sun, Moon, Cold and Music meridians.
Most people don't get them before Green. Like, Music below Green usually is handled as aspects of Thunder or Wind, but when you get Music proper you wind up with transcendental communication that bypasses language and hearing entirely.
When you go from Darkness or Water into Cold.

Yrs had said that Xiulan only gotten into her Sun techniques in Green, so yeah, its about the same as Moon, which we didn't even HAVE meridians for till then.
 
What do Cold meridians do again? Actually, did we ever figure out what Moon meridians do either?
IIRC:
-Treated as both darkness and water
-Some perks on penetrating resistances
-Has themes of immutability/inevitability which is like...20 degrees off from Darkness and Water on their own.

Moon is its own thing, but based on the Moon arts we have, Moon doesn't do anything on it's own, its a catalyst to transform whatever else its paired in an art with into something else.
 
There are degrees and depth of insight when it comes to elements.

Elements like Music and likely Cold seem to be locked behind difficult tribulations if one wants to gain access as early as we did, others like Darkness and Moon seem to come built-in with arts that teach the necessary steps/mindset.

Even then though, we know there are concentrations of elements too pure for LQ to channel at her level (e.g darkness lake where we found the mirror), and insights into concepts like End that require greater purity only acheivable at a higher realm (or at least higher stage).

It would not surprise me in the least if this trend continues all the way to White and beyond, with more and more advanced and/or pure elemental expressions corresponding to Dao of other Xianxia-type stories.
 
"Only that our lessons would have to cease for a time, given the situation, Lady Ling," she replied, perfectly polite. "Though I very much look forward to their resumption."

Ling Qi eyed her for a moment, but nodded. "She supposed that the real purpose of their lessons was defunct for a time. "I will miss our lessons," she replied cheerfully. "We will have to find another way to stay in contact."

"Sect's not exactly restricting contact hard right now," Su Ling grunted, fighting a smirk at the sinking of Xiao Fen's expression.

"...Yes," Xiao Fen said her face blank.
lil'snek tried... poor lil'snek
 
Tea and snacks is now euphemism for secret inner and outer sect meetings and dealings.

Soon our secret plan to break down the divide shall come to fruition!

I wonder if lisuyin and suling ever met up the past half year. kinda odd to just ...dissapear for 6 months.
I wouldn't doubt it. Both have an investment in the Corrupted Caverns and it wouldn't be too hard to create a schedule where both of them are there.
 
Worldbuilding: Formationcraft and Talismans
The art of formationcraft is amongst the oldest branches of all human knowledge, having its origin in those misty years following the fall of the Draconic Dominions and the rise of the Spirit Blooded Kings. Though many scholars have attempted to trace the origin of the craft, their quests inevitably result in contradictory answers. The scholarly consensus on the matter is that Formationcraft has no single origin point, but rather arose independently in many locations, during that age, when man strove to rise up and become masters of the land.

All formationcraft does, however, arise from the tongue of Dragons. The five hundred characters of that language are too primitive for use in modern works, but it was from this soil that the ancient scholars grew the knowledge of our craft. The draconic language, and the characters which were developed from it are shapes which mirror certain qi reactions in the physical world, causing the natural energies of our world to behave in certain specific ways. The characters in formationcraft are not wholly physical, a mortal could in theory copy an array exactingly from a manual, but their work would be inert, as their lack of qi does not allow them to carve the characters spiritual dimensions.

There are three categories of formation craft, though the third is a relatively new innovation. The eldest branch of the art is that of arrays, which are the simplest of the arts in some ways, but whose sheer versatility and utility outstrips the other branches in most ways. An array is defined by its stasis. By fixing an array to a specific location in the world and attuning its characters to the specific flows of energy in that place, the crafter may create many and varied effects which are simply impossible for a Talisman of the same quality, without destroying the object in question upon use. Formations are made both vulnerable and flexible as well, due to the ability for them to be modified without collapsing the entire energy structure. This allows a degree of continuity between master and student, allowing works to be maintained and improved beyond their original makers lifetime if they have trained their apprentice well. However, there are limits to this, and even the most masterfully designed arrays will degrade across generations, even if one ignores the advancements in formations knowledge which will oft render them obsolete. One consequence of our advancement however is the need for ever greater power sources for our arrays. While the ancients could power their simple effects with the background qi of the environment, advanced and modern arrays beyond the beginner levels require a constant fuel source to remain active, typically spirit stones, though certain craftsmen use other sources, some of which are condemned. Be sure to consult your provincial Ministry of Law before attempting to use alternative sources.

Talismans then, are works which are meant to be mobile and active. Swords, jewelry, articles of clothing or armor, these are the typical sort of talismans. Under the second dynasty, Grandmaster Wu advanced the arts of talisman making greatly, by discerning the method by which more complex objects could be rendered a single talisman, although his focus was on land vehicles, the principles of his work have been a great boon for shipbuilding as well. However, the basic principles of talismancraft remained the same. The arrays which are carved, etched, stitched, or otherwise made during the creation of a talisman draw from a material or objects spiritual energies, essentially channeling and guiding the object's potential to one day develop a spirit and identity of its own, and expressing that power through the talismans effects. However, for obvious reasons a newly assembled object lacks the qi to express these effects on their own, they must instead draw power from the user, an unawakened talisman without an awakened user is no better than the base material of its construction. Talisman's are fixed and simple in their effects, and aside from simply breaking them, modification is very difficult, and must be done by the original crafter or a craftsmen whose skill exceeds theirs by several magnitudes. Of course, with continuous use and care, a talisman may still develop an object spirit in time, and thus begin to change and grow through the natural methods. In more recent days, this branch of the art has also developed a minor offshoot, although many masters still disdain it. The so called 'consumable talisman' is a naturally unstable work, typically with an effect more complex or powerful than its materials should allow, but whose natural instability causes them to break after a single activation. We will not be discussing these in this primer.

The final category then, is also one beyond the scope of this beginners text. The exact nature of constructs is still hotly debated among scholars to this day, while they have existed since the first dynasty, constructs were typically simply storage and binding arrays for minor elemental spirits which allowed the user to command them to perform certain actions according to their limited intelligence. Some masters were able to bind and control more powerful spirits this way, but the practice has always been frowned upon, due to the volatility of such things, and the long memory of spirits. They were considered to fall under the category of talismans by most. However, developments under our most august third dynasty called the matter into question. Jumping off from Grandmaster Wu's propositions, certain craftsmen have developed complex constructs which require only a power source and a series of highly complex arrays which act to govern the 'decisions' of the construct. Make no mistake, these creations have been tested thoroughly and have no will of their own, but the weavings of qi through their decision arrays may at times provide a startling facsimile of intelligence. Although such things are far more costly than any mortal laborer and far weaker than a cultivator of a similar stage, many younger craftsmen still show an interest in the field, despite its impractical nature. These too, will not be addressed in this tome.

With this overview in mind then, we must turn to the twelve thousand strokes, and the ways in which they interact with one another and the material of your construction…

-Excerpt from A Modern Primer to Formationcraft

AN: I should have shared this out a day or two ago, but here is the second commission piece completed last week. Still working on the main update!
 
The final category then, is also one beyond the scope of this beginners text. The exact nature of constructs is still hotly debated among scholars to this day, while they have existed since the first dynasty, constructs were typically simply storage and binding arrays for minor elemental spirits which allowed the user to command them to perform certain actions according to their limited intelligence. Some masters were able to bind and control more powerful spirits this way, but the practice has always been frowned upon, due to the volatility of such things, and the long memory of spirits. They were considered to fall under the category of talismans by most. However, developments under our most august third dynasty called the matter into question. Jumping off from Grandmaster Wu's propositions, certain craftsmen have developed complex constructs which require only a power source and a series of highly complex arrays which act to govern the 'decisions' of the construct. Make no mistake, these creations have been tested thoroughly and have no will of their own, but the weavings of qi through their decision arrays may at times provide a startling facsimile of intelligence. Although such things are far more costly than any mortal laborer and far weaker than a cultivator of a similar stage, many younger craftsmen still show an interest in the field, despite its impractical nature. These too, will not be addressed in this tome.
So, Li Suyin's mega secret project probably falls under this category but seems to be much more advanced than simple arrays detailing the decision-making process. It'll be interesting to see this thing in action once Li Suyin breaks it out.
 
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