And yet you seem hellbent on baiting them into starting a war/ looking for an excuse with us that will only end in one way, I am not for that kind of behavior period. Other than that I would agree your plan is a better one but given that it is what it is I am abstaining.
So instead you want to waste even more time than we already have? And we are not going to suffer a war or anything long lasting. Because as I have pointed out we have more soliders and military units than they have people on the planet. Any "rebel" force would have nothing in the way of support or means to cause any issues for us. And we would outnumber them in less than time that it took to take over. The war is coming better that it be on our terms and we stop wasting our time. And what excatly do you think a refusal will cause? It is the same thing I am saying will happen except we don't control it and are less able to take advantage.
You do know that we are handling a democratic republic right and not a dictatorship and while we are playing parliament do note that even planning for creating a casus belli would make it leak like a sieve to cause riots in the capital for causing a Vietnam. The standard procedure is to give them rope to hang on and not military adventurism so that we can smell like roses compared to being a fervent warhawk which doesn't look good to the base if our cause is not righteous enough. Aside from news media eviscerating the government when the obvious leaks come out and we can't do anything because we believe in human rights.
Wow you really like to play it up don't you. We have repeatedly told you that wasting time as you want is both not practical but completely useless. We already invaded and as I stated above there will be no "Vietnam" as you put it. It doesn't matter if we are a Republic or a Dictaorship because it doesn't change the fact the planet is a waste and needs to be dealt with fully. They already have enough rope to hang themselves with the problem is that for some fucking reason people keep wasting time on the planet and we don't do anything to take advantage. And no not really leaks aren't an issue and even of they were the fact it is against slavers will mean that no one will care just like no one cared that we invaded the planet in the first place. You seem to think this salt ball of a planet means way more than it actually does.
Mechdur finishes this turn and rouge has the potential to finish this turn so that's at minimum 1AP freed up Aruigan FTL and definitly Rouge if it doesn't finish this turn will finish next turn so 2 AP there.
No Rouge will not finish this turn and Mechdur is being replaced by the FTL so you are still locking out 6AP for several turns at a curial moment for us. Rouge still has 2 more turns before it reaches 500K so it would be several turns before we get any of those back and the point will be used to start the next colony so either way it is still locked out.
This addresses it very much by sitting nearby and waiting for them to call for help we put forth the image that we will help out if you get into trouble not to mention that after well if they do call for help we can arrest them. A cruiser in orbit is like a cop sitting at the only entrence to a building that you just broke into you're going have to come out at some point and they'll be waiting also it's 50 people.
Except like I said it isn't arresting them or doing anything to them. This means as far as precedent and law is concerned we accepted their claims of independence. The entire point of this action is to make an example of what this is legally. You also have no idea how long they will wait to call for help if ever. It leaves too much to chance and in their hands so is like with Caliban a waste of time and resources.
We are slowly building up our petrusite weapons and having a larger stock never hurts as for the ships they are most likly for new ones built or designed are probably coming standard with the new shields and for arc cruisers which their main weapons are petrusite fed and with the most likly chance of them having petrusite shields will mean they will need greater amounts of petrusite not to mention if older ships are refitted with shields.
No ground weapon uses up nearly enough to matter except maybe the MAWLR and even that is not limited in any way to create in as many numbers as we wanr. And no the new Arc Cruiser will not be using anymore Petruiste than the current models. Nor will they be getting shields because like I already said they are both unneeded and a worthless investment at this moment and level. The Primitive ones combined with the start of Naval weapons are the earliest we would need to start equipping shields. And we have a huge stockpile as it is because we never use all of the Petruiste we have avaible per year when we do build ships with it. And shields on other ships are also not happening either becuase they would only be used much later on.
Let's see economics ramping up production and selling the services of the factories are good reasons I thought of off the top of my head.
What economics and services no one is going to buy mechs from us. And we don't have the numbers of pilots to make it worth it for a factory right now nor do we have enough models for it to make sense. Plus like I said getting the Taurian and Canopian Companies first would make the building of such a factory complex better and faster anyways.
One would finish next turn and the other the turn after.
So what that is still the next two turns locked out for actions. We need to be using our point smartly not rushing to lock them out because when something happens and it will we will not have enough to do as we need.
We can wait a turn to get more ships we don't have to be pumping new cruisers out every turn.
Depending on what era it's from, who owned it and what's on it could very much help the Aurigans as for the research I take it you are talking about the KF-drive that would very much help the ORDI as getting the ability to produce our own jumpships as discussed before means we can sell them and share the knowledge to build them with the other members of ORDI not only bettering the periphery but strengthening ORDI itself.
No we cannot wait and yes we do need to be pumping out ships every turn. Because the Navy is our greatest asset. We also need to get the lines fully optimized. You are ignoring the needs of our commitments. We have 21 workhorse cruisers dedicated to combat and defense positions all of those plus the current 8 free Cruisers need to replaced as quickly as possible to secure both our territory but the territory of our allies. So yes we do need to build some every turn to quickly replace those and then sell those to our allies as they want some.
No it will not because you are banking on a mystery box when you have options that will help them explicitly. We also do not know what it is the "legend" not the facts is that it was a treasure ship that crashed but there is nothing to back that up at all. So forgive me for not wanting to waste time on something unknown while we still have far more ways to help the Aurigans. Chasing every shiny object that comes up is not a smart or sustainable method of advancement.
I never said the ORDI wouldn't benefit from the K-F research I said it would be better done once the full research pact is done instead of the adhoc agreements we have right now and doing it on our own which is what you are doing right now as it is not helping them at all. The others helping in recreating the reseach and science will be worth far more than us doing it then giving it to them or selling jumpships which is still not that viable as it would require constant use of points and it would be better if they are building them on their own instead. Which to do that will require a major overhual, repair, and upgrade to shipyards if not outright building brand new shipyards. To get the Research pact we need to build up to it DHS and Power armor joint work will do that but we need to let it go on for awhile and then we need to use a AP to take an action to talk to the others about forming a Research Pact.
The carrier does it for me.
[x] Plan: Diplomacy and light navel build up
The Carrier design isn't needed yet and until we have enough Cruisers will not be able to be built as the points need to go toward replacing the Workhorse with the Hasta instead.
