Um you have Word Bearers as both primary and secondary geneseed, I don't think you need a secondary if it is the same as the primary donor?
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Um you have Word Bearers as both primary and secondary geneseed, I don't think you need a secondary if it is the same as the primary donor?
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Unfortunately, the followers of Khorne can muscle through psyker BS with Blood God BS (Collars of Khorne)
We could do what the Goddess Kali did and choke them out. Or hit them with cauterizing sniper rounds. Or fight them in space with long-range fighting.
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My idea here @undead frog was to have the Main contributor be either or with the other supporting. Is this fine?
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I think someone proposed Iron Warriors...which we kinda did succeed with Steel Champions.
Khorne isn't just melee fighting and close range berserker charges he is all warfare that includes tactics and strategy. It is just that his main followers are the World Eater who are all insane.
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I remember people talking about putting a chapter on that world where the Imperial Truth is still practiced this turn before the age is over since otherwise they would likely be wiped out so seems like this is the best combo. Not just because the base trait of the Word Bearers to spread that worlds faith but because the Ultramrines trait let's them gain two traits from worlds they are recruiting from. The Ultramarines also specialize in government and administration so they would be even more effective at spreading the faith.
It was even noted that empire building was a possibility. With that combo we may be able to get a realm as big as Realm of Ultramar that still practices the Imperial Truth. Bonus points if they up being close to their parent chapter since that could give us a good combo of mini empires working together.
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He's presumably unlocking the Word Bearers so they can be used as the secondary.
I'd suggest picking one as that's what the charge will be.
ie: You'll have 1 Change of Secondary Gene-seed (Salamanders) that can be spent at any time.
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[] Plan: Oops, all Anchorites!
-[] Aid to Ultramar
-[] Traitor Legion Geneseed
--[] Word Bearers
-[] Extra Dreadnaughts
-[] Secondary Gene-Seed
--[] Word Bearers
-[] Extra Trainers
-[] Cerberus Class Dreadnaught
35 points. I want this to eventually make an Ultramarine/Word Bearer chapter with an Eastern Orthodox aesthetic.
[] Plan: Blending in too well
-[] Codex Experiments
-[] Extra Land Speeders
-[] Potent Gene-Seed Charge
-[] More Equipment
-[] Secondary Gene-Seed
--[] Ultramarine
-[] Extra Trainers
30 points. This one is a precursor to an Alpha Legion/Ultramarine with an extra potent charge to use for traits.
-[] Aid to Ultramar
-[] Traitor Legion Geneseed
--[] Word Bearers
-[] Extra Dreadnaughts
-[] Secondary Gene-Seed
--[] Word Bearers
-[] Extra Trainers
-[] Cerberus Class Dreadnaught
35 points. I want this to eventually make an Ultramarine/Word Bearer chapter with an Eastern Orthodox aesthetic.
[] Plan: Blending in too well
-[] Codex Experiments
-[] Extra Land Speeders
-[] Potent Gene-Seed Charge
-[] More Equipment
-[] Secondary Gene-Seed
--[] Ultramarine
-[] Extra Trainers
30 points. This one is a precursor to an Alpha Legion/Ultramarine with an extra potent charge to use for traits.
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A leader's worth is found in those who follow him. There is a reason why MOST of its followers are Berserkers and not soldiers like the Blood Pact. Despite Khorne representing honor, glory, and all forms of war it has shown a clear preference.
Edit: It's not just its main followers either, even its lesser emanations, daemons greater or lesser, each and all follow this template.
It might not care from whence the blood flows, but the HOW? Khorne seems to, why else would it be so dismissive of ranged warfare, of psykers, of any form of killing other than melee?
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Personally I think the best kind of Khorne chapter would be an Alpha Legion successor that works behind the scenes to stop wars before they even happen.
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From other side... Fact that Skullcannons exist
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I remember in old Lore that Orks who are followers of Khorne are completely opposites of typical Ork...kinda.
Pieces of equipment that only one chapter will only ever use has been semething I've wanted to simulate outside of random chance or world bound options for a while.
Happy to have gotten approval for it.
[] Plan: Fate worse than Death
-[] Secure and Capture: Another request from the so-called 'Inquisition'. It appears they want a Chapter specialized in tracking down and capturing select targets... 'alive'... you would rather not try and comprehend the reasoning. You truly do wonder what Malcador was thinking some days. An update on this request has revealed that the primary target is actually other Inquisitors of all things. You still don't comprehend Malcador's logic.
-[] Traitor Legion Geneseed: Traitor Legion Geneseed: If you wish, you could gain access to the gene-seed of the traitor legions, each will have its benefits and costs, but all of them will have their gene-fathers concealed for practical reasons - little point creating a Chapter only for them to be wiped out by some overly paranoid fool. Write in a traitor legion. 10 Points for each time this is taken.
--[] Night Lords
-[] [Secondary Gene-Seed (Insert Legion Name): The key component for creating Chimeric Gene-Seed. You're honestly surprised Guiliman approved of this one - then again, you did hear him grumbling about some idiots who were suggesting mixing Night Lord and World Eater templates, so maybe he just wanted to make the concept your problem before somebody did something completely moronic. 5 Points for one charge, choose 1 legion to be the donor for the secondary Gene-Seed. Burn 1 charge and traits from the donor chapter are added for a roll, or a separate charge of potent gene-seed can be spent for a separate roll on the donor legion's trait list as well as an acquisition of the secondary legions 'base' traits.
--[] Raven Guard
-[] Extra Trainers: With some extra effort and yelling at a few more bureaucrats, you ought to be able to arrange things so the new Chapter is able to get in some extra specialised training before proper deployment. 5 Points. Burn 1 charge to get an extra training option.
-[] More Equipment: You've managed to secure extra equipment for a chapter. 5 Points. Burn 1 charge to add an extra equipment slot for the chapter.
-[] Potent Gene-Seed Charge: Some samples of a chapter's gene-seed are more likely to retain their stronger traits, and you have isolated such samples. 5 Points for each charge. Burn a charge to make the chapter roll for two traits from their parent legion.
-[] Latch Boots: A superior counterpart to the regular mag-boots in Power Armour, these fascinating devices gives the Chapter's armor the ability to 'stick' itself onto any surface at will - letting the Astartes of the chapter fight on vertical surfaces, or even while upside down. 10 Points.
-[] Secure and Capture: Another request from the so-called 'Inquisition'. It appears they want a Chapter specialized in tracking down and capturing select targets... 'alive'... you would rather not try and comprehend the reasoning. You truly do wonder what Malcador was thinking some days. An update on this request has revealed that the primary target is actually other Inquisitors of all things. You still don't comprehend Malcador's logic.
-[] Traitor Legion Geneseed: Traitor Legion Geneseed: If you wish, you could gain access to the gene-seed of the traitor legions, each will have its benefits and costs, but all of them will have their gene-fathers concealed for practical reasons - little point creating a Chapter only for them to be wiped out by some overly paranoid fool. Write in a traitor legion. 10 Points for each time this is taken.
--[] Night Lords
-[] [Secondary Gene-Seed (Insert Legion Name): The key component for creating Chimeric Gene-Seed. You're honestly surprised Guiliman approved of this one - then again, you did hear him grumbling about some idiots who were suggesting mixing Night Lord and World Eater templates, so maybe he just wanted to make the concept your problem before somebody did something completely moronic. 5 Points for one charge, choose 1 legion to be the donor for the secondary Gene-Seed. Burn 1 charge and traits from the donor chapter are added for a roll, or a separate charge of potent gene-seed can be spent for a separate roll on the donor legion's trait list as well as an acquisition of the secondary legions 'base' traits.
--[] Raven Guard
-[] Extra Trainers: With some extra effort and yelling at a few more bureaucrats, you ought to be able to arrange things so the new Chapter is able to get in some extra specialised training before proper deployment. 5 Points. Burn 1 charge to get an extra training option.
-[] More Equipment: You've managed to secure extra equipment for a chapter. 5 Points. Burn 1 charge to add an extra equipment slot for the chapter.
-[] Potent Gene-Seed Charge: Some samples of a chapter's gene-seed are more likely to retain their stronger traits, and you have isolated such samples. 5 Points for each charge. Burn a charge to make the chapter roll for two traits from their parent legion.
-[] Latch Boots: A superior counterpart to the regular mag-boots in Power Armour, these fascinating devices gives the Chapter's armor the ability to 'stick' itself onto any surface at will - letting the Astartes of the chapter fight on vertical surfaces, or even while upside down. 10 Points.
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That's not really denying my statement. It is a mobile firing platform...THAT PREFERS TO GRIND ITS ENEMIES UNDER TREAD! It literally would rather go into melee range than fire.
Adrian XXIV
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Cursed Thought: What do you think about doing Night Lords/Blood Angels Chimeric Chapter?
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Mate...you just made the most terrifying combination.
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We would be all but guaranteeing a Chaos Chapter. And making something more terrifying than Night Lords that can actually fight with Space Marines.
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Nevermind, we have literal vampires here...especially with possible bat wings mutation. Actually, are Sangunius's wings are possible mutation? I presume it is like Perturabo's Gaze of the Eye.
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There was that one Blood Angel...but the wings turned out to be a gift of Chaos...I think.
Yes actually it is as a Legendary Trait.
Except it funnily enough does need to be hidden cuz everyone knows Sanguinius's wings are a blessing.
Adrian XXIV
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With this "combo", they would most probably get "bat wings", rather than "Angel wings"
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Actually, wasn't that one from Fabious Bile and how that guy thought himself Sangunius reborn?
No it was Chaos and Bile fucked with them a bit after.
[ ] Plan: Back to the Basics
-[ ] Do as you will: You will not be taking any requests at this time.
-[ ] Extra Dreadnaughts: The Chapter has more Dreadnought hulls than normal, letting it field more of the venerable ancients… if it has enough wounded veterans to pilot them, of course. 5 Points.
-[ ] Extra Assault Bikes: The Chapter has access to more Assault Bikes than average, expanding their capability in hit and run tactics. 5 Points.
-[ ] Extra Predators: The Chapter has access to more Predator Tanks, allowing them to engage in armored warfare with better facility. 5 Points.
-[ ] Extra Thunderhawks: The Chapter has access to additional Thunderhawks, of both Gunship, Transporter and Annihilator models, giving them superior heavy air power. 5 Points.
-[ ] Extra Trainers: With some extra effort and yelling at a few more bureaucrats, you ought to be able to arrange things so the new Chapter is able to get in some extra specialised training before proper deployment. 5 Points. Burn 1 charge to get an extra training option.
-[ ] Adaptive Gene-Seed: Some samples of Gene-seed are more capable of adapting to different conditions on different planets. 5 Points each charge. Burn a charge to roll an extra planetary trait.
-[ ] Latch Boots: A superior counterpart to the regular mag-boots in Power Armour, these fascinating devices gives the Chapter's armor the ability to 'stick' itself onto any surface at will - letting the Astartes of the chapter fight on vertical surfaces, or even while upside down. 10 Points.
-[ ] Do as you will: You will not be taking any requests at this time.
-[ ] Extra Dreadnaughts: The Chapter has more Dreadnought hulls than normal, letting it field more of the venerable ancients… if it has enough wounded veterans to pilot them, of course. 5 Points.
-[ ] Extra Assault Bikes: The Chapter has access to more Assault Bikes than average, expanding their capability in hit and run tactics. 5 Points.
-[ ] Extra Predators: The Chapter has access to more Predator Tanks, allowing them to engage in armored warfare with better facility. 5 Points.
-[ ] Extra Thunderhawks: The Chapter has access to additional Thunderhawks, of both Gunship, Transporter and Annihilator models, giving them superior heavy air power. 5 Points.
-[ ] Extra Trainers: With some extra effort and yelling at a few more bureaucrats, you ought to be able to arrange things so the new Chapter is able to get in some extra specialised training before proper deployment. 5 Points. Burn 1 charge to get an extra training option.
-[ ] Adaptive Gene-Seed: Some samples of Gene-seed are more capable of adapting to different conditions on different planets. 5 Points each charge. Burn a charge to roll an extra planetary trait.
-[ ] Latch Boots: A superior counterpart to the regular mag-boots in Power Armour, these fascinating devices gives the Chapter's armor the ability to 'stick' itself onto any surface at will - letting the Astartes of the chapter fight on vertical surfaces, or even while upside down. 10 Points.