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The Heir of the Dragon: A Rhaenyra Targaryen Quest

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[X] [Dream] To Understand and Come to Terms with the Strange Dream You had at Harrenhall
[X] [Tarly] You've achieved enough, cut back to just what you need. (Locks out Prowess Training, Prowess Will Not Decrease unless Rhaenyra is rendered infirm for months)
 
Fanhunter696 said:
Really, trying to go beyond and become a Barriastan Selmy, is more OCD than anything else at this point...
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Remember that Barriston, Jaime, Aemon, et al married the job and had little or nothing else going on in their lives. We want to be a bit more well-rounded a queen than that, I think, not least because we need heirs and a household.
 
I think at this point we are just beating a dead horse. There have been reasons for one or the other options, let's just leave it for people to vote.
 
[X] [Dream] To Understand and Come to Terms with the Strange Dream You had at Harrenhall
 
Teen Spirit said:
The infant you saw was larger than you expected for a newborn, not unusually so or fat, just bigger, still a small thing though.
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I can't help but read this as foreshadowing that Helaena will end up as much of a giant as Rhaenyra.

Rebellious Noble: "Well I would have preferred a man but at least there will be proper lady I can support to replace that hulking she-devil."
*15 Years Later* : "God damn it."

[X] [Tarly] There is more you can achieve (Rhaenyra will gain Stress if she does not semi-regularly take Prowess Training)
[X] [Dream] To Understand and Come to Terms with the Strange Dream You had at Harrenhall

I think it would be nice to be on good terms with the half-siblings. Not even for like succession reasons, I just think it would be nice.
 
[X] [Dream] To Understand and Come to Terms with the Strange Dream You had at Harrenhall
[X] [Tarly] You've achieved enough, cut back to just what you need. (Locks out Prowess Training, Prowess Will Not Decrease unless Rhaenyra is rendered infirm for months)
 
[X] [Dream] To convince Alicent to ride on Syrax
[X] [Dream] [Diligent] Master a Skill
[X] [Tarly] There is more you can achieve (Rhaenyra will gain Stress if she does not semi-regularly take Prowess Training)
 
[X] [Dream] [Diligent] Master a Skill
[X] [Tarly] There is more you can achieve (Rhaenyra will gain Stress if she does not semi-regularly take Prowess Training)
 
Toaster cult said:
Wizard posting just feels like a weird pull for Rhaenyra here, maybe if we went scholar but we're like, the martial knight character, it would feel so weird to rest on our laurels and stop training entirely and go looking for strage women lying in ponds and maybe distributing swords.

Im suprised greatest knight isnt more popular? I would have figured like, picture of chivalric glory and like, ourname being on the lips of every peasant with the same breath as Symeon Star-eyes would be doing numbers
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Greatest Knight is the most Dream of the Dreams, and honestly may be the one with the most hurdles and additional requirements, so while it is my favorite option on the board, it is also one that requires quite constant upkeep more so than any of the other Dreams, this pushes more action concerned voters away from it. Though I do admit I would've suspected some more people voting in favor than we have. Though I do really hope that we will have a squire or two at some point, even without the dream, its just what a Knight should do.
 
[X] [Tarly] You've achieved enough, cut back to just what you need. (Locks out Prowess Training, Prowess Will Not Decrease unless Rhaenyra is rendered infirm for months)
[X] [Dream] To convince Alicent to ride on Syrax

I think we need the actions more elsewhere. We are literally the strongest and have a dragon, we can afford to "coast".
 
Okay still pretty close, probably gonna let this go for another 12 hours

Adhoc vote count started by Azel on Jan 29, 2025 at 12:05 AM, finished with 275 posts and 102 votes.
[dream] [tarly] [diligent]
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[X] [Tarly] You've achieved enough, cut back to just what you need. (Locks out Prowess Training, Prowess Will Not Decrease unless Rhaenyra is rendered infirm for months)
[X] [Dream] [Diligent] Master a Skill
 
The Laurent said:
Like, yeah, I'm sure that's the truly Diligent thing to do, to achieve precisely and exactly the goal and no further and just coast for the rest of our lives. Like, legit it doesn't have a time limit, it's just, "We're not going to ever raise Prowess again." Honestly fuck that.
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My issue is that taking the option to try to get even better with Prowess means locking us in to a situation in which we have to improve Prowess or eat stress. Stress management is probably going to be difficult enough as it is, and honestly at this point it does seem like we have better things to do with our time than the Prowess training we'll be obligated to take from now on.
 
Breadnaugt said:
Obvious solution, don't reject her. Or the other twin.

You don't need a vision of the future to predict that distancing yourself from your half-siblings, and being cold towards them, will cause a divide within the family.

Be a good big sister to them.
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There's something to be said about playing into prophecy and playing without it. Sometimes when you try to prevent something, it will happen regardless because fate, regardless, has an active way of making you its bitch. Trying to force niceties might have more of an adverse effect.

I wholly believe that we should let it occur naturally if there is a moment to do so.


[X] [Tarly] There is more you can achieve (Rhaenyra will gain Stress if she does not semi-regularly take Prowess Training)
[X] [Dream] To Understand and Come to Terms with the Strange Dream You had at Harrenhall
 
Dyeus said:
There's something to be said about playing into prophecy and playing without it. Sometimes when you try to prevent something, it will happen regardless because fate, regardless, has an active way of making you its bitch. Trying to force niceties might have more of an adverse effect.

I wholly believe that we should let it occur naturally if there is a moment to do so.
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I mean, Rhaegar tried to act on a prophecy that he was sure would come to pass, and it proved the dynasty's undoing...
 
The goal of my write in for now is just to come to terms with what happened and go from there, and Rhaenyra's weirwood dream is not the same as the prophecy Rhaegar was obsessed with. Right now Rhaenyra is stressing hard over the implications do to relative ignorance. Whatever happens resolving this will at least allow Rhaenyra to better process future magic shenanigans.
 
Simon_Jester said:
I mean, Rhaegar tried to act on a prophecy that he was sure would come to pass, and it proved the dynasty's undoing...
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I am not sure if you're agreeing with me or not but I have to say the nihilst in me believes we're fucked nine ways til Aelora hatches a dragon egg :p
 
For me what it comes down to is that visions and prophesies fall into two categories:

1) The ones that are a warning of something that might happen, but might not, and trying to react to them or avert them works out to your advantage.

2) The ones that are a warning of something that will happen, and you might as well brace yourself and trying to avoid it will just mean you die feeling stupid for self-fulfilling your own prophecy like Oedipus.

And importantly, you can't tell which is which, at least not at Rhaenyra's level of magical knowledge. At Rhaenyra's level, the best course of action is to just do whatever makes sense in the moment and treat trippy weirwood visions as a cautionary tale of what might happen if she fucks up.
 
[X] [Tarly] You've achieved enough, cut back to just what you need. (Locks out Prowess Training, Prowess Will Not Decrease unless Rhaenyra is rendered infirm for months)
[X] [Dream] [Diligent] Master a Skill
 
[X] [Tarly] You've achieved enough, cut back to just what you need. (Locks out Prowess Training, Prowess Will Not Decrease unless Rhaenyra is rendered infirm for months)
[X] [Dream] [Diligent] Master a Skill
 
[X] [Dream] [Diligent] Master a Skill
[X] [Dream] To Understand and Come to Terms with the Strange Dream You had at Harrenhall
[X] [Tarly] You've achieved enough, cut back to just what you need. (Locks out Prowess Training, Prowess Will Not Decrease unless Rhaenyra is rendered infirm for months)
 
[X] [Dream] [Diligent] Master a Skill
[X] [Tarly] There is more you can achieve (Rhaenyra will gain Stress if she does not semi-regularly take Prowess Training)
 
Simon_Jester said:
For me what it comes down to is that visions and prophesies fall into two categories:

1) The ones that are a warning of something that might happen, but might not, and trying to react to them or avert them works out to your advantage.

2) The ones that are a warning of something that will happen, and you might as well brace yourself and trying to avoid it will just mean you die feeling stupid for self-fulfilling your own prophecy like Oedipus.

And importantly, you can't tell which is which, at least not at Rhaenyra's level of magical knowledge. At Rhaenyra's level, the best course of action is to just do whatever makes sense in the moment and treat trippy weirwood visions as a cautionary tale of what might happen if she fucks up.
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I don't follow your logic. If there exists prophesies that can be averted and your actions can affect some prophesies, then surely it'd make sense for Rhaenyra to act in order to try to prevent a "death prophesy". Even if it winds up being the kind of prophesy that will happen no matter what, the outcome is no worse than if she had done nothing (still death).
 
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