The Heir of the Dragon: A Rhaenyra Targaryen Quest
- Thread starter Teen Spirit
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[X] Kindly decline and fly off to the Eyrie.
It feels politically unwise to go hunting, especially when we don't gain much from it (maybe lose a bit of stress?).
We have the first problem about just doing something unlady-like. It isn't big, but things add up. Then there might be the problem of going hunting together with another lady, considering the rumours already going around.
It feels politically unwise to go hunting, especially when we don't gain much from it (maybe lose a bit of stress?).
We have the first problem about just doing something unlady-like. It isn't big, but things add up. Then there might be the problem of going hunting together with another lady, considering the rumours already going around.
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- New York
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- He/Him
[X] Agree to go on a small hunt with her.
Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
[X] Kindly decline and fly off to the Eyrie.
I'll be honest, I vote this just because I imagine Alicent would ask us not to if asked.
I'll be honest, I vote this just because I imagine Alicent would ask us not to if asked.
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- United States
I think it might be better if we can be so unladylike-like that people just give up and start mentally coding us as "one of the boys" rather than periodically giving them hope on the small stuff and then destroying that hope every time a [] Defiant option comes up.
FWIW there don't seem to be the same rumors about Rhea in canon. Going by the romance option list, she clearly likes girls in this, but that might not be well known. And it is well known she's an avid hunter, so people might be less likely to take it the wrong way.
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Hasn't that particular ship already sailed and sunk considering Rhaenyra isn't not only on her way to becoming a hunk as an adult with her height and build but also does swordsmanship and other type of "manly" things?
I personally just thought we might as well learn and lean into it since, paraphrasing Tyrion, the world won't let us forget it so let's just use it as our sword and shield so people can't hurt us with it.
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He never went through with the marriage for a variety of reasons.
Cassiemouse
Market Atheist
I do think trying to abide by gender roles is a losing battle, yea. We just need to take the hits and find allies with people who don't care.
- Location
- Pittsburgh PA
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- He/Him
[X] Agree to go on a small hunt with her.
I think this time people would focus less on the hunting part and more on the fact Rhaenyra actively participated in her Not Aunt marriage annulment party.
- Location
- Third planet from the star named Sol
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- He/They
Yeah, participating in the hunt is going to publicly tie Rhaenyra to the annulment - as opposed to just being the messenger. I think we should still do it, but there are definitely going to be political repercussions for it.
Inverted Fallecy
Beware the Dialogue that Spews Forth!~
- Location
- Somewhere behind a Screen.~
[X] Kindly decline and fly off to the Eyrie.
We're on a diplomatic mission right now. It doesn't feel right. Going on a hunt while we're performing a mission as crown heir on behalf of the King seems in poor taste.
When we get back, we need to patch things up with both Viserys and our new stepmother since her disapproval has been simmering on the back burner for some time. Going on a hunt during this visit makes it seem like we're repeating that dance at her wedding.
We're on a diplomatic mission right now. It doesn't feel right. Going on a hunt while we're performing a mission as crown heir on behalf of the King seems in poor taste.
When we get back, we need to patch things up with both Viserys and our new stepmother since her disapproval has been simmering on the back burner for some time. Going on a hunt during this visit makes it seem like we're repeating that dance at her wedding.
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- Volksstaat Hessen, Deutsches Reich
I mean, yeah. That is kinda what I meant. Noble hunting parties were first and foremost a social occasion, and that, really, for the majority of both genders. The difference just being that men could maybe shoot a bow or take the boar spear, while that would be unthinkable for women.
But the women were still part of the (social) hunting party, so being invited to a hunt, per se, probably wouldn't be that unusual for Rhaenyra. She would probably simply expect to be in the background having a social event.
Gladsome
The Sky will be as it was meant.
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At this point the reputational cat is out of the bag
No amount of pick me grovelling is going to get the hard-core misogynists to respect us, which to be clear, they wouldn't really have done so even if we'd been the most traditionally feminine lady.
At this point we have more to gain from embracing unorthodoxy and cultivating that reputation rather than making ourself small for small minded men.
[X] Agree to go on a small hunt with her.
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- Location
- Te Ika-a-Māui
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- She/Her
[X] Agree to go on a small hunt with her.
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- Lake Wobegon
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- He/Him/His
Did we get an answer to this? It's important.
- Location
- United States
As other people have noted, going on a hunt is often more social networking thing than actual hunt. In this case it's probably not (Rhea seems more interested in the actual hunting), but if we were both men this might not be seen as at all unusual. And developing skill and competence as a hunter might be socially useful going forward for the same reasons.
It's possible that adhering to more male social roles / activities will actually be net positive social for those on the fence. It puts us in a context people are familiar with, and means they know how to deal with us, even if it's not what they're used to. For instance, right now if a lord wants to approach us about something in a light social context right now, do they have their wife invite us to a sewing circle or do they invite us on a hunt? They might not know. Giving them an answer, even the 'wrong' answer, might be preferable for a lot of them to no answer.
I'm not sure Johanna would mind this as much either, unless it generates rumors. Johanna might not be fond of us dancing with women, but in canon she also led armies in mail, so she might not be against this.
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Yup, at this point it's much better to just unapologetically be us since caring too much/being insecure about it will just invite people to poke at the sore spot in the future. We probably wouldn't have this much of a problem with that if at all if we chose the "bookworm" or social hax route but considering this route is the only one to save us from the Targaryen super-grooming by Daemon apparently, then this is for the best.
Let's just go full (hopefully) charismatic, capable warrior build who'll give many people questions about their preferences; as indeed as you said, the hardcore misogynists wouldn't be satisfied until Rhaenyra married a bannerman of theirs to "keep her in line", abdicated from being Heir, never rode Syrax again and just be content raising kids somewhere they can't be offended at the sight of a woman and even then they'd say that's what she should do anyways.
That's to say, at this point she should live her best knightly dreams and just try not to upset too much the people she can't afford to for now but otherwise everyone can suck it up and accept they're going to have a Warrior Queen come hell or high water.
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- Massachusetts
TBH this is kinda a lame vote? "Do a thing, or don't do a thing," without any real evident drawbacks, will pretty much always vote in favor of doing the thing--it's more interesting in the narrative *and* more "powerful" from a gaming perspective of seeking allies and trying to "win" the quest.