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[x] Yes, report your encounter with Orochimaru.
Seeing Red [Naruto]
- Thread starter Tekomandor
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Spectrum
Tell me a secret~
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These guys named Danzo and Fu might have some words for you...
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- Just passing through.
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- He/Him
Akasha
The Only Truth
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- 「̛̛́́ ͏̨҉̕͏ ͏̶̴」
Danzo doesn't have the authority to just walk up to the acting head of the Uchiha clan and demand that she let this random, totally-not-suspicious Yamanaka dig in her brain, without the Hokage being present. Hisana would be dumb as fuck not to instantly call him out on his bullshit and report the event to the Hokage, which Danzo should know and avoid, as that would bring Hiruzen's attention on him again.
Kidnapping us, on the other hand, would be nearly impossible once we tell Hiruzen about Orochimaru's attack on us. We'll be watched all the time. We're also a participant of the exam and our disappearance will be noted and reported to Hiruzen, who will move heaven and earth to find us, if only because of Naruto, and because letting the previously mentioned acting clan head suddenly vanish and not doing anything to find her would severely damage his standing among the other clans, and his own ninja in general, especially Kakashi, our sensei. And Naruto. And Sasuke, who would then become the last Uchiha, and probably snap. And swear vengeance on the Hokage and whoever kidnapped us.
Seeing as Danzo hasn't kidnapped us years ago, he either already has SI knowledge, doesn't know we have it, or knows about it but we were watched so closely and so often that he couldn't find a single opening. Telling Hiruzen about Orochimaru's attack wouldn't change anything about any of these possibilities.
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azoicennead
Overly-Affectionate Zombie Squad
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[jk] Yes, report your encounter to Orochimaru
[x] Yes, report your encounter with Orochimaru.
I honestly don't see a good reason not to do this.
[x] Yes, report your encounter with Orochimaru.
I honestly don't see a good reason not to do this.
Well if Karin learned it from Orochimaru she probably works for him, and is being put in place as a means for him to pass along valuable Intel he gains as the leader of the local branch belonging to whichever faction he "joined".
I say local branch because my current theory is that the two "factions" are locked in a war that spans dimensions, and to them this world is simply another battlefield where they need to either bring the locales into their sphere of influence, or at the very least prevent the enemy from doing the same thing, which explains why they're willing to assign a couple dozen Chunin to someone who was at best special Jonin tier on what amounts to a suicide mission.
The main argument against telling Hokage about our transmigrant status is that Danzo can do anything he wishes and Hokage is completely incapable of stopping him.
The Froggy Ninja
The Blade Will Never Die
I find it interesting that Karin is transmigrant. With the other ones we've met they could conceivably be new people but Karin's a canon character.
What gets me about Karin isn't that she's possibly a transmigrant.
What gets me about her is that she knows that Hisana is a transmigrant. That's a mighty leap from just an extra on Team 7 to oh this person must be like me. It might be explained by her sensing ability, though. It implies intelligence about transmigrants beyond anything we've been able to discover, including knowing about Hisana directly, or it implies that Karin did a lot of preparatory work in the background since arriving in Konoha to determine what Hisana was, or it implies that someone else has intelligence about transmigrants beyond what we've been able to discover, including about Hisana herself.
All of this and other theories are possible, mind you.
What gets me about her is that she knows that Hisana is a transmigrant. That's a mighty leap from just an extra on Team 7 to oh this person must be like me. It might be explained by her sensing ability, though. It implies intelligence about transmigrants beyond anything we've been able to discover, including knowing about Hisana directly, or it implies that Karin did a lot of preparatory work in the background since arriving in Konoha to determine what Hisana was, or it implies that someone else has intelligence about transmigrants beyond what we've been able to discover, including about Hisana herself.
All of this and other theories are possible, mind you.
Or, you know, it has been known that she's a transmigrant for ages. Certainly the trenchcoat guy seemed to know.
DeepWaters
No one will be the wiser.
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[x] Yes, report your encounter with Orochimaru
Akasha
The Only Truth
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That was before we found out that everyone and their grandmother had SI knowledge.
The argument was also based on the fact that, in the suggested scenario, we'd have ALREADY told everything we knew to Hiruzen, which would have reached Danzo because he's got spies everywhere, and, seeing as, in that same scenario, Danzo wouldn't have any access to SI knowledge other than us, he'd be willing to take the risk to grab us.
The scenario ALSO included us NOT having just been attacked by Orochimaru, Hiruzen's very own student, in the middle of a very public event, in which we are most likely one of the most anticipated contestants(there was a lot of hype for Sasuke due to his status as the last Uchiha).
Finally, that scenario also didn't have Karin knowing about SI knowledge, there being at least two factions of SIs(one of them working with Orochimaru and the other with Akatsuki, both of whom Danzo has contact with), and Karin most likely being a spy(yes, I still maintain that is the case).
You're conveniently ignoring a lot of context.
Danzo may still decide to grab us or otherwise force us into submission if we actively go out of our way to wave a red flag at him, but now we know he probably doesn't HAVE to, since he likely has alternative sources of SI knowledge, and we're about to become someone EXTREMELY closely watched due to Orochimaru's attack, if being the acting head of the Uchiha clan wasn't enough. Hiruzen may well decide that we ran away if we tell him everything we know, and reveal that we've been hiding potentially critical information. After all, we've hidden such stuff once. Why would he believe we told him everything? If SI knowledge is invisible to Yamanakas, how could he verify what we tell him? How could he know we weren't simply told that by Orochimaru when we were in the barrier, and haven't been compromised or bought? How can he be sure we didn't stab Konoha in the back for killing our clan, and didn't go to Orochimaru to help him burn it? On the other hand, if we don't do that and simply vanish right after we report Orochimaru's presence? Red flags everywhere.
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Yes, that goes under the third category though. And you still have to think about how Karin herself got that information. Trenchcoat guy knew, but if it's somehow common knowledge, why hasn't Hisana ever heard anything? And if it's not, then how did the not-quite-common information make it to Karin?
[x] Yes, report your encounter with Orochimaru.
Yeah, I mean the other option would be to repeatedly drop Star Wars references and see if they react. Presumably, she just decided to bite the bullet and go for the straightforward approach.
Yeah, I mean the other option would be to repeatedly drop Star Wars references and see if they react. Presumably, she just decided to bite the bullet and go for the straightforward approach.
-Worrying that Gaara was apparently able to keep up with A-rank speed Hisana running on Final Hurricane.
-Either Karin is a transmigrant(and her chakra sensor range + transmigrant boost would be obscene) or she has been talking to one.
-And I don't know how she'd know anything about whether or not Yamanaka can read transmigrants; there aren't any Yamanaka nukenin in canon.
Maybe someone else learned their technique? It's hiden after all, not an actual bloodline.
Yeah, Hisana is quite obviously wrong.
Not only is she a clan head(and I said that would come in useful) but there is actual physical evidence of an S-class fight going down.
And there were other witnesses, two of them Konoha nin.
You don't throw around more juice than an S-classer in one fight without drawing attention, and the Uchiha Flame Formation could be seen from OUTSIDE the forest.Hell, I'm going to bet that there were ANBU on the scene before we left, just using stealth techniques that stopped us from detecting them beyond short range.And Hisana almost certainly shoved the dead body Orochimaru used for his technique in a scroll.
To quote the GM:
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[X] Yes, report your encounter with Orochimaru
Uh even in canon she was capable of sensing the fact that Sasuke, and Naruto were both transmigrants, well technically "transmigrations brothers".
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PsyFarrow
Verified Necrodancer
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... What?
Would you like to rephrase that? Because right now it sounds like you're saying Naruto and Sasuke were SI's in cannon.
I edited my post, but Hisana does refer to them as transmigrations brothers in Merger 1.3, and seeing as Karin in canon is explicitly noted to sense the fact that their chakra is different from being reincarnations of Hagoromo's sons her doing the same thing for other transmigrants isn't at all surprising to me.
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This is a VERY good point.
If Hisana can't tell a transmigrant just by chakra sensing, it's unlikely Karin can.
And knowing English is insufficient evidence of being a transmigrant on a world where people can be taught.
Vindictus
XENO
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Hisana: "How did u kno"
Karin: "I didn't. Thx ;D"
Hisana: *Angry frog noises*