I did mention the gacha, albeit editing it into my post.

That is more or less why I think the Badnik factory should only be chosen if we don't get any back. We are going to lose more, especially since the Zeti are particularly good at making us lose them. See Zeena.

Just because we weaken Zavok by taking Chuck does not mean he is out of the game.

I'm not acting like he's out of the game, but we want to be finishing him off before the other factions take too much of his territory. The more they take, the less we get once Zavok is off the board.

My point is simply that I don't expect the things you want to be fast, which is a problem due to the above time pressure. We aren't getting the conch before Turn 7 at the earliest either, since people seem to agree that Whisper is a bigger priority, if we get it at all. The mech you want? Can't use it until turn 8. And so on.

We've gone in circles about this and the threat of Zavok for what feels like all afternoon. We have different priorities. I have nothing else to say at this point.
 
Roses by Metal Sonic

In the deepest of the Eggman Empire secret base Metal checked every corner of his room, seeing the he was alone he closo the door and went
for his maracas. It was time.

"This one for my one and only true love" Metal started playing, he could not talk yet, but he still remembered the sound. That was all he needed.
"Rusty Rose" The sound of his maracas filled the room, while his voice filled his mind.

"Rusty, you're so cool" Metal stare at the image on his databanks, the one with one of her rare and beautiful smiles.
"And with my chaos emerald, we're gonna rule" He could remember her during their spar, her limbs swift and strong.
"Rusty, understand" She was just standing there, on his mind, as amazing as always.
"i'm gonna love you 'till the very end" The sound of his maracas intensified, a lack of control only she could cause.

"Roses, Roses, Roses, Roses, Roses" Images of her flooded his mind, of every single encounter they had before.
"Roses, Roses, Roses, Roses, Roses" Even, a kiss?, he did not remember that one. Was this his imagination?, it was all thanks to her.

"I love you oh" He did, after all this time, he finally understood everything.
"Roses, Roses, Roses, Roses, Roses" More of those made up images filled his mind, and every single one was of her.
"Roses, Roses, Roses, Roses, Roses" They were not real yet, but they would be.
"I love you oh" Yes, he would make them real, with her.

"Sonic, Shadow and a Zabok, too" Their speed, their chaos control and his magnetism. They would all fall against them.
"A thousand troops of Eggpawns couldn't keep me from you" An army like this world never seen before, we will lead them together.
"Rusty Rose, at the end of the line" We will crush all of our enemies, any that would oppose us will fail.
"I'll make you mine" And they will do it together.

"Roses, Roses, Roses, Roses, Roses" A recording of their fight flashed before his eyes.
"Roses, Roses, Roses, Roses, Roses" So powerful, so skilled, so tall.

"I love you oh" Her extendable limbs, her intense eyes. Her pink hair, the color of a warrior.

"Roses, Roses" His body was out of control, his arms shaked the maracas like never before.
"Rusty, Rusty" And when he had his voice, he would tell her.

A knock at his door interrupted, Belle of course. Metal hid the maracas, unwilling to give away anything. He did not need to make excuses, one
of the advantages of lacking a voice is that people made those for you. Yes, he would not say a thing, it was not the time yet.

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A short omake song parody about Metal and Rusty. Might add some more details later.
Thanks to TheSnekMan for the idea.
In case someone does not know, the original song is "Peaches" by Jack Black/Bowser from the Super Mario film.

Edit: Extended the omake a little, it was a little too short for my taste with only the lyrics.
Edit 2: This omake was inspired by some great art by siennaditbot, you can find the picture in her tumblr, you will recognize it when you see it.
 
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For me, it's not the pa action. It's how you don't want to fix the darc egg that we need immediately, since we don't know when we will be attack and how much it could change things for adventures that Eggman goes on. He could take it and have the battle parts of the adventure go better with it, even if it's the weakest one, it's still good to have around, especially right now, with how weak we are currently.

Well we need to put Starline in a important action and fizing a mech is not one and need to build Honey shop to generate income.

I'm not acting like he's out of the game, but we want to be finishing him off before the other factions take too much of his territory. The more they take, the less we get once Zavok is off the board.

My point is simply that I don't expect the things you want to be fast, which is a problem due to the above time pressure. We aren't getting the conch before Turn 7 at the earliest either, since people seem to agree that Whisper is a bigger priority, if we get it at all. The mech you want? Can't use it until turn 8. And so on.

We've gone in circles about this and the threat of Zavok for what feels like all afternoon. We have different priorities. I have nothing else to say at this point.

Hey man I just saying rushing to the finish line without thinking things through will land us in hot water.

I just want a mech that could give as a advantage instead of relaying on one that will not even equalize us since Zavok has a combat modifier in his giant form of 57 in Power.
 
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Well we need to put Starline in a important action and fizing a mech is not one and need to build Honey shop to generate income.



Hey man I just saying rushing to the finish line without thinking things through will land us in hot water.

I just want a mech that could give as a advantage instead of relaying on one that will not even equalize us since Zavok has a combat modifier in his giant form of 57 in Power.
Just dawned to me but hace to comment, reminder you are t speaking of a normal Death Egg Robot.

The one you xurrently hace is one rhat you critted on, buffing it considerably.

Also reminder about your pilot mech trait you Got to. So it's not as one sided as you believe.

Also reminder rhat with the been combst Systen stats Agent everything, Also actions available in battle influence a lot things
 
Just dawned to me but hace to comment, reminder you are t speaking of a normal Death Egg Robot.

The one you xurrently hace is one rhat you critted on, buffing it considerably.

Also reminder about your pilot mech trait you Got to. So it's not as one sided as you believe.

Also reminder rhat with the been combst Systen stats Agent everything, Also actions available in battle influence a lot things

Yeah but the action avaliable was hitting things, fly, some long range attack than can only be used four times and a AoE that target both friends and foes in the proximity.

Eggman total trait is 50 piloting that mech with all his trait Zavok still has the advantage of 7.

Sure it is buffed but his artillary can only be used 4 times and a AoE that has no need for a Contest roll debuffs friend and foes alike.

So I consider a bit of a cannon glass since the most useful actions either are limited or tend to affect firends as well.

Also.a roll the enemy must roll above 25 in suscess actuons agains the mech to hurt.

I am not conplaining but like I said bit if a glass cannon and not one made with long battles in mind.
 
Well we need to put Starline in a important action and fizing a mech is not one and need to build Honey shop to generate income.



Hey man I just saying rushing to the finish line without thinking things through will land us in hot water.

I just want a mech that could give as a advantage instead of relaying on one that will not even equalize us since Zavok has a combat modifier in his giant form of 57 in Power.
Why is not fixing our only mech, which is currently our strongest weapon, not helping to fulfill his drive. Which is to assist Eggman in his conquest. Fixing our current strongest weapon seems to be assisting in that regard.

You seem to be the one who's trying to rush to the finish line, since you don't want to fix our strongest weapon and try to gacha another mech. Which isn't' guarantee to be one of the blue prints made, even if we have Eggman use all of his persona actions to make blue prints. Even if we do get another blue print for a mech, doesn't mean we will have what it takes to make it the next turn, heck we might not even have the resources, reactors, infastructure, etc... to build it for countless turns. especially if we roll bad. The darc egg is more important to fix now, instead of wishing that we have a stronger mech right now. Like I have been saying, we don't know when we might need it. Since we are the late starters in this quest. For all we know, one of the other factions can do a false flag operation that points to us, and we get attack.
 
...Guys. You do know that these options aren't mutally exclusive right?

*Sigh* Anyway, I'm partial to making a Ragnite mine, and fixing Honey's shop this turn. Fulfills some vital needs we have that won't be fixed simply by taking our stuff back, which would fulfill our immiedate issues with Starline and give us some much needed infrastrure.
 
...Guys. You do know that these options aren't mutally exclusive right?

*Sigh* Anyway, I'm partial to making a Ragnite mine, and fixing Honey's shop this turn. Fulfills some vital needs we have that won't be fixed simply by taking our stuff back, which would fulfill our immiedate issues with Starline and give us some much needed infrastrure.
Personally hoping that next turn we start re-taking the eggnet or make the underground railroad of daracens to be honest
 
We can't do the road. Not until we are sure the damn wolf is out for time being.

He's right unfortunately...well actually no we could do it as long as we arranged our actions in such a way that none of them are vulnerable to Whisper.

I somehow doubt she can infiltrate the Empire or can overcome the combined power of all our Intrigue, or that she'd bother shooting Orbot and Cubot.

...Come to think of it Whisper's attack roll must surpass our roll right?


If we managed to bait her out on say the Railroad we might be able to get her there since she'd be up against our +100 bonus.
 
He's right unfortunately...well actually no we could do it as long as we arranged our actions in such a way that none of them are vulnerable to Whisper.

I somehow doubt she can infiltrate the Empire or can overcome the combined power of all our Intrigue, or that she'd bother shooting Orbot and Cubot.

...Come to think of it Whisper's attack roll must surpass our roll right?


If we managed to bait her out on say the Railroad we might be able to get her there since she'd be up against our +100 bonus.

She can also cause saboutage in the Egg City c such as taking out defense installations and surveilance devices as a example despite attacking our heroes.
 
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She can also cause saboutage in the Egg City c such as taking out defense installations and surveilance devices as a example despite attacking our heroes.

Hmm...QMs could we get more information on how Whisper's thing works?

Would searching for her prevent her from attacking? Roll with advantage if she attacked?

What is necessary to catch her? Could we do it if she Critfailed an attack?
 
Alright, there's many things that have been discussed about next turn.

If we need to get Starline to do something to fulfill his drives soon, I prefer to have him upgrade Rusty Rose. Repairing the Darc-Egg-Robot is an action that is automatically passed. Why would something so trivial as to not even get a roll fulfill his drive? Rusty Rose, sure, is an autopass action, but it is at least an action that has the potential to be impressive. It is also an action where Starline's own specialities can come into play. The Darc-Egg-Robot is something best delegated to Orbot & Cubot, or left when we don't have any Stewardship actions we want to assign a hero on.

Personally I'd love to draw up some blueprints next turn. We have an image to uphold, we can't keep going around in our lowest tier mechs like this!

Our Brains action is likely occupied by the gene-therapy. We were told we would have actions to retake our empire next turn, and it's not unlikely that there's several different actions across different categories that can be taken. One of those is certainly a Brains action to cleanse the Eggnet of the infestation, which we'll have to do with Sage. I wouldn't be surprised if there were Power and Logistics actions to get ready for the throw down too.

I don't think it would be a good idea to do E-Series action next turn. It'd be cool, but we aren't in a stable enough position in my opinion to risk losing a bunch of our Metal in the gacha. I'd rather hold off on it too until we've dealt with the zeti.

I think it is best for our Trickery action next turn to be hunting for the assassin. It'd be out of character for Eggman to ignore it for much longer. If we do something else, I'd prefer to hunt down the Conch, though ideally on Turn 7 we'd have a lot of badniks to assign to Starline to hunt it down.

I really don't see the appeal in building Honey's shop in our territory. I'd prefer to ignore it and her, but there's no one in our territory who has any wealth. I'd be fine ignoring the signal. We have an empire to retake, and we're seeing right now we aren't really prepared to tangle with foreign kings on quests. But we could throw Orbot & Cubot on it if we must. I'd be fine repairing the Darc-Egg-Robot too. It would probably be good to have the Egg Drones ready for the turn after we've revealed Whisper. I would like to recruit the Conductor next turn though. That would get us income.

Personally hoping that next turn we start re-taking the eggnet or make the underground railroad of daracens to be honest
Why would we waste our time on the railroads? Why is there even an or here? The Eggnet is going to be a Brains action and the Underground Eggroad is a Trickery action. In the unlikely event the Eggnet isn't a Brains action, it's going to be a Logistics action. The heroes for those categories don't line up.
 
I really don't see the appeal in building Honey's shop in our territory. I'd prefer to ignore it and her, but there's no one in our territory who has any wealth.

Wow.

Hating Honey that much?

Sure she us a Tier 1 Hero but it does not mean she will need to stay there forever and sone effort we can raiser her and Thunderbolt to better stats throught PA and equipment.
 
Why would we waste our time on the railroads? Why is there even an or here? The Eggnet is going to be a Brains action and the Underground Eggroad is a Trickery action. In the unlikely event the Eggnet isn't a Brains action, it's going to be a Logistics action. The heroes for those categories don't line up.
One benefit for the railroad is that it ensures Cordelia makes it here in quick and safe.

We know she is headed here but without the railroad she will have to sneak past Zavok and Empire held ground and avoid their armies.
 
Wow.

Hating Honey that much?

Sure she us a Tier 1 Hero but it does not mean she will need to stay there forever and sone effort we can raiser her and Thunderbolt to better stats throught PA and equipment.
She's boring. I don't care about the stats. I'd have the same opinion if she had a score of 40 in every stat. Though in that case I'd be questioning the QMs why they made her so powerful.

What is narratively compelling about a clothier deciding to work for Eggman? I don't see anything there. Thunderbolt has a funny obnoxious attitude. Starline is a fun character; I love his IDW arc and hope his bad luck wears off soon so we can see him shine. The Egg Bosses are unique characters! While I'm no where near as... enamored with Gunther as the others are, it's fun to see how she reconciles the fact that she's been recruited to work with a guy who could be argued to be as bad as the East Europan Empire on the threat of death. But this time she's benefiting from it like a collaborator. But... clothing? I feel absolutely nothing about that. I'd rather read any other character.

One benefit for the railroad is that it ensures Cordelia makes it here in quick and safe.

We know she is headed here but without the railroad she will have to sneak past Zavok and Empire held ground and avoid their armies.
As I've said before, that's out of character information. She'd probably be good for... Heart and Logistics? She'd also be unconnected to Eggman and unknowing of his past, which means she's a candidate to make the propaganda campaign.

But I don't see why that is more valuable than finding the assassin or the Conch.
 
I will note before this becomes a fight liking or not liking certain Hero Units is a matter of opinion, and people can have whatever opinions they want at the end of the day as long as they aren't dicks about it
 
I will note before this becomes a fight liking or not liking certain Hero Units is a matter of opinion, and people can have whatever opinions they want at the end of the day as long as they aren't dicks about it

I guess that MrHobbit is a bit too strong opinion for a chracrater that has so little screen time in this Quest?

I mean we just get her.

I guess it helps that you QMs can shape her personality whatever she wants since source material don't provide a lot.

Anyway I prefer to trust a judgement that all of the Hero characters are useful and can make pretty entertaining storylines if allow to happen.

I mean that fashion style is definilty come in hand on the future.
 
What is narratively compelling about a clothier deciding to work for Eggman?

For me, it's that she literally got so blinded by revenge that she agreed to work for Eggman, now she has to make the most of it. She can either hold true to her morals... or get revenge. As well as her greed and ambition vs. morals, by staying with him to build her brand.

Her being a fashion designer, as you acknowledged, is a way to get us income faster. Yes, Basil can do that too, but that's still likely at least two turns away. One to recruit him, another to get whatever he needs for it set up. And more sources are better.

It's also a usable tool for infiltration, marketing, etc. Get Eggman an industry outside of machinery.

Not going to say she's super interesting yet, but I don't see her inherently more or less interesting than many of the other heroes in our roster when she just showed up. Whoever we don't invest in won't be interesting, because they won't have anything to do. If nothing else, her industry offers opportunities that some other heroes don't.
 
The fuck where did I imply that?

Go on, cite it. I said she bored me. I said that I felt nothing about her. If you're going to comment about me, put in the bare minimum of effort to get that comment right.

What are you talking about?

I meant that is a bit hasty to imidiatly write off a character that we just get before saying she is boring wihtout waiting a couple of updates and turns to see what QMs are planing to her or how they write her personality.
 
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