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Respect Your Elders v2 - Galactic Boogaloo [Warhammer Lizardmen Quest]

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Xantalos said:
You don't quite know if the chaos gods existed way back when, but judging from what the Relic Priests were able to pull from deep time, there sure was something from the Warp that was assailing the Old Ones during a terrible war of some sort. Something that drove them past desperation.
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Enslavers? Yeah, Enslavers.
 
Well that was wild as hell. Great Job Xantalos. Wonder if this revelation about the Orks origins will make it into the Eldar talk?
 
t3isukone said:
I'd say that the Necron and C'Tan are more likely.

...that said Enslavers are still scary as fuck and I would absolutely believe they could be a threat to the Old Ones. Especially in large numbers.
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Xan said something from the Warp, the Warp's poison for C'Tan and Necrons don't have a presence there. That leaves only one option.
 
Xantalos said:
The war was lost and the cosmos was broken. Those from beyond slipped through cracks in space and the doors in their minds, more every day. They would not survive.
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The pertinent text for this discussion. Beyond isn't entirely figurative in that sentence.

Cursix said:
Wow the Void-spell theory was huge. Can't wait to see what it's done to the research options.
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Oh, I've got a lot to do in terms of revamping stuff. There's a bunch.
 
That, just raises further questions. This new information gives a kind of timeline that makes no sense unless we are encountering timey wimey bullshit.

The Old ones the Lizardmen worship have to either be ones who fled the War in Heaven or were a research post doing science during or before it. But the timeframe is weird. The Orks on Mallus are Orks, not Krork, at least they had none of their crazy abilities or technology. I suppose the fresh born lizardmen might have beaten back a Krok incursion but having no records of that seems odd. Mallus should have been in far worse shape if that was the case. How did the Ork even get on the planet? They were made before the Lizards and at the time going full apeshit on everything.

Furthermore we know the Old ones on Mallus checked out when the Polar Gates shattered, which is should have happened when slannesh was 'born'. But that was only like 10000+ years ago our time. Not the absurd timeframe between the sundering and War in Heaven.
 
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That, just raises further questions. This new information gives a kind of timeline that makes no sense unless we are encountering timey wimey bullshit.
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Timey-wimey BS is definitely involved, because Slaanesh has yet to be born - there are only three major presences in the Warp at the moment, not four.

Which means we're before the Great Crusade by a few centuries or so.

E: Edited to make the quote more pertinent.
 
It'd be funny if we do some timey wimey BS and, accidentally, are the reasons why Orks end up on Mallus
 
Stupid question, how many Old ones did we worship again and how many player character slann faction leaders were we given? Just a silly little thought.
 
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Stupid question, how many Old ones did we worship again and how many player character slann faction leaders were we given? Just a silly little thought.
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The first is listed on the front page, though admittedly not very clearly. It's under Sacred Spawnings on the mechanical threadmark.

You had a choice between 5 different elder slann to act as the PC - Mazdamundi the geomancy specialist/magical all-rounder, Adohi-Tegha the divination whiz who likes evocation magic, Zaqunda the defensive tank who knows spoopy relic priest-related stuff, Huintenuchli the tech whiz, and Kroak, who is quite dead but still pretty damn potent even when he's having his skink secretary do all his casting for him.

And aye, the timeline is weird-looking from an outside perspective. No worries, things will make sense in time.
 
ScottishMongol said:
Good, good. I wonder how the Slaan feel knowing the Orks were created as a superweapon.
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They aren't sure what to think and have decided to deal with this sense of uncertainty by blowing up a lot of orks and deciding what to do later.

Noroboro said:
This better not be some Tzeechian 'all part of the plan/it'll all make sense later' stuff :p
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Nah, there's just details you guys are currently missing that'll better contextualize the information you're receiving now.
 
Honestly I hope you do more temporally weird messages like that whenever we talk to the Priests, that was really cool, and frankly reading it backwards is even more easily interpreted than reading it forwards.
 
BungieONI said:
Honestly I hope you do more temporally weird messages like that whenever we talk to the Priests, that was really cool, and frankly reading it backwards is even more easily interpreted than reading it forwards.
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Given that I wrote it backwards, that'd make sense. And yeah, Relic Priest interactions are my excuse to turn up the weird vibes and play with whatever crosses my mind. Your Interstice omake was actually a thing I read for inspiration this go around.
 
Xantalos said:
Given that I wrote it backwards, that'd make sense. And yeah, Relic Priest interactions are my excuse to turn up the weird vibes and play with whatever crosses my mind. Your Interstice omake was actually a thing I read for inspiration this go around.
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:D Kinda figured, there were concepts in here that were in Interstice and it was *mwah* great. I... hmm had an idea, but before that, I think they're one of my favorite parts of this quest.

Anyway idea. I wonder how we could mix VEIST and the interact with the Relic Priests, sticking their corpses in void spells that lock out everything but the connection to them. Silence so complete there is no equivalent.
 
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BungieONI said:
:D Kinda figured, there were concepts in here that were in Interstice and it was *mwah* great. I... hmm had an idea, but before that, I think they're one of my favorite parts of this quest.

Anyway idea. I wonder how we could mix VEIST and the interact with the Relic Priests, sticking their corpses in void spells that lock out everything but the connection to them. Silence so complete there is no equivalent.
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...*scribbles in notebook*
 
Also now I'm somehow imagining a spell which, in an hour of great need, can Crack the Tombs, and let the ineffable horror of the Tomb Collective out into the world to cast spells which have never been and which are lost to time forever.

Great R'lyeh rises from the sea of memory, and its terrible mind remembers.
 
Xantalos said:
...*scribbles in notebook*
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whelp new super weapon is unleashed...the army of the undead toad mage casters. Dudes so fucking terrifying that they looked at death and told it to serve the old ones. (our turtle guy/gal/thing).

Plus with frogotten spells or spells that never existed? ANYONE sane would give those guys a wide berth.

would also be intresting if the emperor just ordered a "Live and Let Live" after the 5th crusade attempt against us, and we just...randomly set up pylons/cities in some remote regions and did some spacail movements.

coincidently, the warp around those areas are remarkably calm, thus allowing easier travel times (astral-web getting to work).

plus i wonder how Elderitch emperor would react to both the sublime communion, and the tomb collective?

because constellations over on SB really hits home that the emperor is a eldritch entity trying to be human.
 
I'm definitely interested to see what negative casting times look like, when a caster can receive the formula to the spell and cast it before they have the thought to do so.
 
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