I'm not sure how viable that would be.
Respect Your Elders v2 - Galactic Boogaloo [Warhammer Lizardmen Quest]
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It's in the prophecy we got that we can either lance the boil or ride out the storm. There is no in-between.
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Personally, I think our ability to do anything about the impending disaster that is the birth of slaanesh and the fall of the Eldar is limited to poking our resident Eldar demigod and hoping she can do something without her (and the planet we happen to be living on) getting killed by proto-Drukhari who don't want to stop partying. Regardless the smart money is on fortifying our little corner of the warp to minimise the damage the birth of a chaos god could do to our extremely warp sensitive civilisation.
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There will be stuff you can do to influence the galactic stage and such, it'll just be after you've gotten off-planet and established yourself in space in the next arc … which isn't that far off after I finish this goddang turn (seriously I love them for the ideas I can put forward but oh my lord am I gonna have to revamp how, or even if, I run war turns after this, the disproportionate amount of time they take me to write is ridiculous)
Being resigned to the birth of Slaanesh is not the right path forward.
Frankly I'd 100% prefer going all in on shanking the warp tumor.
Just one demigod? Really underestimating the means we'll have. The proto-Dark Eldar tried to assassinate Isendral and her husband in such a roundabout way for a reason. And its well within our means to help Isendral bring her husband back by breaking the curse in the soulstone. Then we'll have 2 Demigods throwing their weight around and forming the much needed leadership and rallying point of those opposing the Pleasure Cults. In the lead up to the birth of Slaanesh the Eldar were in more or less a state of civil war AFAIK. The ones opposing the Pleasure Cults never had something to rally around.
And if other Demigods exist and have been assassinated and trapped in soulstones we can recover those and bring *them* back as well.
All the while we learn what the situation is, learn about the coming Birth of Slaanesh, and create a ritual aimed at shanking the beast before it is born. Expand off of this planet and expand the Geomantic web in order to fuel the ritual. Research and increase in our technology for the moment most auspicious/opportune to ensure a True Death of a warp tumor.
Hunkering down will more or less be resigning ourselves to something close to canon 30k universe as all the Chaos Gods will be awake and active once Slaanesh is born.
Hell, if Slaanesh is never born the Emperor might well not enact the Imperium for example.
It is well worth the risk of going all in on shanking the warp tumor.
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I agree that being resigned to Slannesh is not a great option I'm just unsure if we're going to be able to get enough leverage to stop it.
This would be very cool if we can pull it off, but frankly we'll have to wait and see how difficult this is going to be. My concern is that although it's going to be a while until the critical mass of warp energy is reached the eldar have been feeding Slaanesh for a long time and that's a lot of momentum to try and stop. With the added question of how do you vent all that energy without very bad, not good things happening.
With all that said I do think Warp shenanigans are definitely the way to go if we want to try and solve the problem.
The arrogance of the eldar is legendary and I can't see a civil war making that much better.
This would be very cool if we can pull it off, but frankly we'll have to wait and see how difficult this is going to be. My concern is that although it's going to be a while until the critical mass of warp energy is reached the eldar have been feeding Slaanesh for a long time and that's a lot of momentum to try and stop. With the added question of how do you vent all that energy without very bad, not good things happening.
With all that said I do think Warp shenanigans are definitely the way to go if we want to try and solve the problem.
The arrogance of the eldar is legendary and I can't see a civil war making that much better.
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I think it might be more possible to if not kill Slaanesh in general than...break it into smaller gods, because one of the key issues was that the 9 Muses powered up Slaanesh so much with the Eldar empire, that Slaanesh was able to just eat the eldar gods.
If we can poke it in the right way, we can lance it into smaller chunks that the eldar gods can face on their own with some help from our gods and slaan.
This to me seems like a more reasonable goal than outright killing the 4th chaos god, which don't get me wrong would be awesome but it might not be possible in the time we have left. Influencing things so that the Eldar gods and Eldar themselves are able to have a better fighting chance...that's more doable.
For example: let's say we're able to break it into a god of dueling/warfare, a god of debauchery, a god of music, so on and so forth.
Because there are a LOT of concepts that slaanesh has under the umbrella of 'obsessive perfection and pleasure/sensation'.
if we can poke away enough specific domains into lesser gods, we might not kill it...but it would at the very least go from "HEEEEEERE'S SLAANESHI!" to more or less the elven/dark elven civil war...in spez
If we can poke it in the right way, we can lance it into smaller chunks that the eldar gods can face on their own with some help from our gods and slaan.
This to me seems like a more reasonable goal than outright killing the 4th chaos god, which don't get me wrong would be awesome but it might not be possible in the time we have left. Influencing things so that the Eldar gods and Eldar themselves are able to have a better fighting chance...that's more doable.
For example: let's say we're able to break it into a god of dueling/warfare, a god of debauchery, a god of music, so on and so forth.
Because there are a LOT of concepts that slaanesh has under the umbrella of 'obsessive perfection and pleasure/sensation'.
if we can poke away enough specific domains into lesser gods, we might not kill it...but it would at the very least go from "HEEEEEERE'S SLAANESHI!" to more or less the elven/dark elven civil war...in spez
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Huh. Considering how the chaos gods hate each other as much as everyone else, I suspect being a bunch of smaller newborn gods would not end well for Slaanesh if it doesn't get the kind of power boost it got in canon from devouring the entire Eldar population and their gods to let it stand on par with the other 3. Dunno how viable the idea is, but slaanesh getting torn apart and devoured by the other chaos gods would be funny. Even if it would probably empower them in concerning ways.
Their come a point where you have to say this is not working and just summarize things to keep things going. If the ritual fires the Lizardmen win the planet, if it fails we have major problems.
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Maybe you could heavily summarise the campaigns in a few paragraphs instead of describing all the battles? It would make things easier for you
Yup, i have no idea how truly possible the idea is but it feels more conceptually plausible to cause essentially mitosis of the budding god than to outright destroy it with the momentum and inertia it's got going for it. If anything, it feels like poking it at the right time and causing it to explode into pieces would fit better as it'd be taking advantage of its uncontrolled and unnatural growth to turn its nature against itself.
Each piece will see themselves as the 'true' god, the 'true' perfect form and fight each other as much as the others if we're lucky. Hopefully it wouldn't get eaten by the other chaos gods and boost them but we'll have to see eitehr way.
I mean, it's still pretty early days in its development, we're not even really seeing warp storms forming yet. Now, Eldar society has a fair amount of inertia to it, but the actual formation of slaanesh hasn't really picked up steam yet.
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Seeing as how the slann managed to make basic guns from ork weapons, I shudder( of excitement) at the thought if we managed to get our hand on some Eldar weaponry. Hell a single ship would grant us great boons. Thought it would take a while. But slaan's are smart they'll figure it out, sooner or later.
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I'm afraid I'm about 8000 words too deep into this thing to back out now (I have unintentionally adopted the writing policy of the Horus Heresy novels and made several book-sized things out of something that could be summed up in a few paragraphs) but I do appreciate the consideration!Maybe you could heavily summarise the campaigns in a few paragraphs instead of describing all the battles? It would make things easier for you
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Note that I'm absolutely not complaining about you throwing such beasts at us, on the contrary😉 But I was speaking of doing so for future updates, when the scope of our empire will make it simply impossible to go into the detail of what happens.
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Do y'all think we could get the other gods from Fantasy? Maybe find an isolated human population, tell them about the god we want, then after a few thousand years of worship, they pop up? Is that possible?
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We barely knew about the Elven gods and that was the one race we actually had conversations with.
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You'll run into WHF gods most likely, just not through conventional means.
Oh boy oh boy, I can't wait for Kroak to find Nagash trapped inside a Tesseract Vault because the Necron's thought he was a C'tan Shard that was mocking them
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So are the Elf Gods and Aeldari Gods different or did the Elf Gods just not get eaten by Slaanesh yet because of Empyrean Atemporal Bullshit?
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Either we leave him there, or we take him out just so we can tear him apart.
Lizardmen vs Skaven Rap Battle (shockingly good)
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No elf back on Mallus ever had an intrinsic connection to Slaanesh or anything, from what you could tell.
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Well that *fucks*.
Dang.
I am surprised and very happy this exists.
There will need to be new forms of lizardmen as we travel across the galaxy.
The Slann will need to change the lizardmen's form in order to live on different planets. Their current form is more suited for jungles, swamps, and the like. We need to prepare for the following environments.
Artic, Tundra, Temperance, Ocean/Water worlds, and several other kinds. What is our plan for those?
The Slann will need to change the lizardmen's form in order to live on different planets. Their current form is more suited for jungles, swamps, and the like. We need to prepare for the following environments.
Artic, Tundra, Temperance, Ocean/Water worlds, and several other kinds. What is our plan for those?