Thanks for another awesome update!

I don't suppose you'd do an interlude with the local justice league?
I very much want to see more of their freak out about Alchemist.
 
It's nice to see Tiffany getting some attention and training, hopefully by the time they return to there own reality she's able to solve her problems.
 
Good to see Alchemist trying to train player one (Tiffany) how to be more than a muscle brain... That said, I'm kinda curious...

How is Tiffany so affected by the item perfected necronomicon? I mean... Excluding the gamers mind system (which I can't remember if it's recovered from tiamat tiamat-ing), she grew up in Gotham... She should be use to horrifying cognitohazard stuff by now.
 
Good to see Alchemist trying to train player one (Tiffany) how to be more than a muscle brain... That said, I'm kinda curious...

How is Tiffany so affected by the item perfected necronomicon? I mean... Excluding the gamers mind system (which I can't remember if it's recovered from tiamat tiamat-ing), she grew up in Gotham... She should be use to horrifying cognitohazard stuff by now.

Well sure, your regular old every day Necronomicon is probably sitting in a magazine rack at a dentist office in Gotham and comes across as banal and trying too hard. What she got was a perfected version that had all of its flaws killed. Considering that, it seems very possible that she isn't hallucinating and eyes really would (attempt to) eat her in her sleep.

Shame she forgot the words of power before opening the thing or she'd have been fine. Klaatu barada nikto and such.
 
Well sure, your regular old every day Necronomicon is probably sitting in a magazine rack at a dentist office in Gotham and comes across as banal and trying too hard. What she got was a perfected version that had all of its flaws killed. Considering that, it seems very possible that she isn't hallucinating and eyes really would (attempt to) eat her in her sleep.

Shame she forgot the words of power before opening the thing or she'd have been fine. Klaatu barada nikto and such.
Those are two entirely different franchises. The Necronomicon originally came from HP Lovecraft, and this particular one was from Wild Arms. Klaatu Barada Nikto is from The Day the Earth Stood Still. There is a movie where the phrase is used to close a portal created by the Necronomicon, but even then it isn't a passphrase for use.
 
Those are two entirely different franchises. The Necronomicon originally came from HP Lovecraft, and this particular one was from Wild Arms. Klaatu Barada Nikto is from The Day the Earth Stood Still. There is a movie where the phrase is used to close a portal created by the Necronomicon, but even then it isn't a passphrase for use.

I know. It was a humorous reference to Sam Raimi's "Army of Darkness" starring Bruce Campbell. They use "Klaatu barada nikto" as words of power you have to speak in order to safely remove the Necronomicon from its resting place. He, of course, botches it.
 
If anyone else forgot what Freikugel is about, it's from a Magatama eaten back in chapter 368

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"So, weird thing- I actually looked this up back when I first ran into it- Freikugel is German and means, roughly 'Magic Bullet'. It came from a play called 'Der Freischutz', Free Shooter, and followed the story of a gunman who'd gotten a number of magic bullets from the devil that would never miss. However, the final bullet that the devil gave to our intrepid gunman would be aimed at a target of the devil's choosing rather than the Freischutz," Alchemist explained, a troubled look on his face as he tried casting what looked like restorative magics on his copy. "In a rather strange twist, the final bullet struck not at the hero of the story, nor his beloved or some holy hermit or some such figure. Instead it struck the hero's rival, a sly and treacherous man that had meant for the hero to fail so he could claim the woman they were both pursuing."

"...I thought you were a movie and video-game buff," Jinx admitted as Alchemist reached out with one hand towards Kary.

The Fallen reached out and wrapped both of her hands around his, her thumbs running over the callouses on his fingers-

~~ You have gained the skill: Freikugel! ~~
~~ Level 1/200 ~~
~~ Unleash a devestating blast of unblockable Almighty force upon whatever dares face you! ~~
~~ Cost 17% HP per use ~~

 
Honestly, I just assumed that Tiffany's reaction to reading the book was the normal and correct response, and Alchemist was the weird one.
...Considering, you know... Void Dragon, Eldritch Knowledge, etc.
 
Honestly, I just assumed that Tiffany's reaction to reading the book was the normal and correct response, and Alchemist was the weird one.
...Considering, you know... Void Dragon, Eldritch Knowledge, etc.
I mean, it was? The others never read the book, because it was busy being burnt. Alchemist was fine, Player One was gibbering, only one of them is SUPPOSED to hoard secrets and eldritch knowledge.
 
Good to see Alchemist trying to train player one (Tiffany) how to be more than a muscle brain...
Her problem isn't that she is a muscle brain it's that she isn't enough of a muscle brain. Alchemist chose magic as his main skill and then started deepening and widening his knowledge and ability until he got where he is now. Being a muscle brain is a completely fine path to take - just look at Hulk or even better Flex Mentallo - you just need to apply yourself properly.

For example if Tiffany supplied her melee combat with D&D and Pathfinder combat disciplines she could do things like punch through adamantium, throw people two hundred times in a row and other such fun things. She has some decent stats but doesn't have the endgame to which she would try to maneuver her opponents and bury them there.

EDIT: And then she could layer additional passive and active "muscle brain" abilities on top of all of that ad infinitum.
 
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He problem isn't that she is a muscle brain it's that she isn't enough of a muscle brain. Alchemist chose magic as his main skill and then started deepening and widening his knowledge and ability until he got where he is now. Being a muscle brain is a completely fine path to take - just look at Hulk or even better Flex Mentallo - you just need to apply yourself properly.

For example if Tiffany supplied her melee combat with D&D and Pathfinder combat disciplines she could do things like punch through adamantium, throw people two hundred times in a row and other such fun things. She has some decent stats but doesn't have the endgame to which she would try to maneuver her opponents and bury them there.

EDIT: And then she could layer additional passive and active "muscle brain" abilities on top of all of that ad infinitum.

Muscle Brain doesn't mean "find the best way to hit things harder", it means "that looks good let's do that".
 
Honestly, I've kind of come around to Tiffany since I last really thought about her. I still don't really like her, but I do have to admit she seems like she's grown some as a person, and that's good to see.

She still.. doesn't quite get the kind of world she lives in though. Like, yeah. She fits in with Young Justice where the kids are being forced to go to school and think they're a lot more ready to take on the world than they are (and are a lot more capable of doing so than others think), but.. DC is a shitshow of awful conga-lining into world-ending (or universe-ending) events narrowly averted by the power of spandex. Continuously. So, she doesn't really... feel the need to really eke out every advantage she can grab at. Tiamat definitely gave her a reason to start, without completely crushing her motivation though.
 
Her problem isn't that she is a muscle brain it's that she isn't enough of a muscle brain. Alchemist chose magic as his main skill and then started deepening and widening his knowledge and ability until he got where he is now. Being a muscle brain is a completely fine path to take - just look at Hulk or even better Flex Mentallo - you just need to apply yourself properly.

For example if Tiffany supplied her melee combat with D&D and Pathfinder combat disciplines she could do things like punch through adamantium, throw people two hundred times in a row and other such fun things. She has some decent stats but doesn't have the endgame to which she would try to maneuver her opponents and bury them there.

EDIT: And then she could layer additional passive and active "muscle brain" abilities on top of all of that ad infinitum.

She doesn't even need that stuff she got led right to and took from things like Bravely Default she's horribly underusing. That series as a thing here there's strengthened Neo versions of bosses whose main feature is having 9999 def and magic def no matter their lv. That means even if you smack their def stats down to the minimum the game allows of 75 % and boost your own stats high you don't do meaningful amounts of damage. To get around that a ton of the jobs have things that let them ignore def by bypassing it or dealing fixed damage in some way such as the Merchant job having an atk where they spend 50 gp x their lv and do the same as irreducible damage. Heck having the asterisks means she can use Brave and Default which she doesn't do.
 
Honestly, I've kind of come around to Tiffany since I last really thought about her. I still don't really like her, but I do have to admit she seems like she's grown some as a person, and that's good to see.

She still.. doesn't quite get the kind of world she lives in though.

Which, from discussions Al has earlier in the story with, I think it was M'Ree, could be a side effect of Dream having been trapped in the recent past.

It was discussed that Dream being trapped also reduced the universes level of creativity. Even though people now dream again, that creativity doesn't come back all at once after so much has been lost and the means/tool/paradigms to think creatively and imagine are atrophied.


Also, completely unrelated, but what is going to happen to the dragon egg Jinx got from FF-7 when all the dragons pounced on the pair to greet them? That was a long time ago and seems to have been forgotten by the characters. Which is fair given the Cave of Wonders beating they took at the end there after that, but just something I noticed on my recent reread.
 
Also, completely unrelated, but what is going to happen to the dragon egg Jinx got from FF-7 when all the dragons pounced on the pair to greet them? That was a long time ago and seems to have been forgotten by the characters. Which is fair given the Cave of Wonders beating they took at the end there after that, but just something I noticed on my recent reread.

Basically it's staying unused because of the character bloat especially with a lot of arcs brining in temp characters
 
So, if Tiffany goes out to do something alone then gets confronted by Flash about Reverse, then Eobard shows up. Can she handle it or run away?

The Perfect that Burned, would an E Villain have Fought for it?

Does Al need another?

.... Is there a book required reading at HIVE like Anarchist Cookbook or How to be Bad?

... Is Yuffie Al's 5 year old who tells him why a Plan will not work?
 
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