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Deltamaster said:
... So nothing short of Barry resetting his personal timeline (which he does in the comics last I recall), or triggering a reboot event and hitting thawn in the head with it will stop him... Spectacular.

That said... Could entangle work on thawne? As the Constantine debacle showed it's limits are MUCH looser if given the chance... A entangled Ultima targeted through time will literally erased him from all iterations simultaneously (the hydra solution of killing all the heads and burning the necks at the same time)
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Thawne died via Alexander, grandmaster time manipulator and the ultimate protector of the timeline. Even capital-G Gods of Time and Space would struggle to maintain THAT level of parity.

Past Thawne WILL die, and he can't paradox it away, due to Alexander cutting that shit right out, but that doesn't mean Thawne can't come back from death via necromancy or by his soul finding a way to escape Hell. It also doesn't mean that Thawne's past selves can't fuck with Barry's timeline in Barry's future (and dead-Thawne's past).

They're stuck with the death, though, because Alexander's interference won't allow anything else.

But keeping past-Thawne ignorant of what happened is crucial to prevent paradoxes and keeping everyone else ignorant keeps people from bringing Thawne back.
 
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I'm not too knowledgeable about DC magic but what's the significance of alchemist basically being able to summon a Lord of Order? Aren't they superior to New and Old Gods?
 
Mister Ficser said:
This entity drew the attention of countless mystics and mystic-adjacent individuals such as Doctor Fate, Captain Marvel, Wonder Woman and, if reports are to be believed, John Constantine has purchased flight tickets to the U.S. while Zatanna Zatarra has called to request information on the magical surge that she experienced.
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Wait, did Alchemist accidentally create the Justice League 2-3 years a head of the canon timeline?

Under normal circumstances, it would've taken an alien invasion to unite Earth's mightiest heroes.

Alchemist: "Better keep a low profile."
[five minutes later]
Alchemist: "I SUMMON EXODIA!!!"
Reverse Flash: :o :o :o ?!?!
 
Deltamaster said:
A entangled Ultima targeted through time will literally erased him from all iterations simultaneously (the hydra solution of killing all the heads and burning the necks at the same time)
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Even if entangle worked on Ultima (And I'm not sure it does since it's an AOE), keep in mind Ultima's range of effect is at this point wider than the damn casting range, and everything in it gets destroyed out of reality. Dropping reality-annihilating ubernukes throughout time seems like it'd cause uh... waaaaay too much collateral damage to seriously consider when you could just... entangle Feeblemind and reduce every thawne to basically the intellect of a particularly dull dog and the charisma of a sea cucumber. Or even better 'Greater Bestow Curse'.

Basically there's better options than Ultima in basically every circumstance which is... why Alchemist doesn't use it anymore.

Though honestly no matter what you do to him, some monster or another will fix it, clone it, time-clone it, or time-clone it and upload fake memories to it that are slowly overridden by the discorporeal paradox-oversoal of twitface, anytime The Writers want it to.
 
Clear Heart said:
Even if entangle worked on Ultima (And I'm not sure it does since it's an AOE), keep in mind Ultima's range of effect is at this point wider than the damn casting range, and everything in it gets destroyed out of reality. Dropping reality-annihilating ubernukes throughout time seems like it'd cause uh... waaaaay too much collateral damage to seriously consider when you could just... entangle Feeblemind and reduce every thawne to basically the intellect of a particularly dull dog and the charisma of a sea cucumber. Or even better 'Greater Bestow Curse'.

Basically there's better options than Ultima in basically every circumstance which is... why Alchemist doesn't use it anymore.

Though honestly no matter what you do to him, some monster or another will fix it, clone it, time-clone it, or time-clone it and upload fake memories to it that are slowly overridden by the discorporeal paradox-oversoal of twitface, anytime The Writers want it to.
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The solution is obviously to kill God! Do as a shinmegami tensei character does and shoot God in the face until they capitulate.
 
Mister Ficser said:
"Machine? Everyone with even the slightest sense for the divine felt a massive wave of godly power that originated here!"
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Klarion the Witch Boy must be so envious (NOT jealous) of all the anarchy Alchemist is causing. The little Lord of Chaos has got to step up his game.

Scene:
Robin: "How does donating clothes to charity escalate into an S-rank international incident?"

Alchemist: :D "I remember it as if it were yesterday..."

Robin: (unamused) "It happened three hours ago."

Alchemist: :D :D :D
 
Frescko said:
I'm not too knowledgeable about DC magic but what's the significance of alchemist basically being able to summon a Lord of Order? Aren't they superior to New and Old Gods?
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Debatable, the Lords of Order and Lords of Chaos are basically locked in a stalemate with each other, trying to further "Order" and "Chaos". Generally, there can only be one Lord of each on the Earth plane at a time and they incarnate with some kind of proxy to allow them to exist in reality. Additionally, the Lords are weaker when they incarnate compared to their full power.
Nabu (Doctor Fate) is a powerful member of the Justice Laegue and is a Lord of Order possessing a magician.

Basically, they are as powerful as the writer makes them, the TLDR (as I understand it) is that they represent the Chaos and Order aspects of Magic on a Multiverse level.

So, summoning Alexander? Big Fucking deal.
 
w4terghost said:
Debatable, the Lords of Order and Lords of Chaos are basically locked in a stalemate with each other, trying to further "Order" and "Chaos". Generally, there can only be one Lord of each on the Earth plane at a time and they incarnate with some kind of proxy to allow them to exist in reality. Additionally, the Lords are weaker when they incarnate compared to their full power.
Nabu (Doctor Fate) is a powerful member of the Justice Laegue and is a Lord of Order possessing a magician.

Basically, they are as powerful as the writer makes them, the TLDR (as I understand it) is that they represent the Chaos and Order aspects of Magic on a Multiverse level.

So, summoning Alexander? Big Fucking deal.
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Order is almost always associated with Time, so Alexander's status as a Guardian of Time is probably what set off the Order alarm. he's not actually another Lord of Order.
Dr. Fate with the Helmet on is the most powerful normal spellcaster on Earth. Wotan might equal him on a bad day, and the Spectre certainly beats him, but he's basically DC's Sorceror Supreme.... which is why he ended up as part of Dr. Strangefate in the Amalgam Universe.
In addition, he's also superstrong and durable, fully capable of functioning as a decent Brick in combat if neccessary. With all the magical lore of an immortal deity of magic, he's very well informed and very dangerous. He is NOT a fragile human being with great magical powers. He's more akin to a super-powerful angel with magical powers!
You know, unlike the Black Adam movie.
 
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Well, Shield of Glass will be good for one hit from anything but how long it takes to regen after getting multiversally punched is a question I don't currently have an answer for.

Rather immediately, Al needs to talk with Tiffany and explain who, and what, Thawne is and what she can do about him. Then he's got to pass that information on to Jinx, Kary and Yuffie.
 
I missed the last chapter so when I started reading this I was immediately hit in the face with Barry realizing the reason he jizzed in his pants was Eobard.
 
drvash said:
Klarion the Witch Boy must be so envious (NOT jealous) of all the anarchy Alchemist is causing. The little Lord of Chaos has got to step up his game.
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Wasn't it earlier in this story that Alchemist basically deconstructed Klarion and basically pronounced him a pathetic child wasting its true potential in perhaps the most mind-numbingly stupid ways that can be conceived?

Pretty sure all 52 universe variants of Klarion felt the burn.

Then, to add insult to injury, he summons forth a God King God of Order to literally fulfill its own Orderly Purpose, and in so doing stir the pot with more chaos than Klarion has managed to pull off given the repercussions echoing not just through the world, or time, but also the multiverse itself.

Using a manifestation of Order, without tricks or manipulation to beget Chaos. No plans, schemes, just pure whim and selecting the ideal tool for the job. Kernel Klarion.exe has suffered a Memory Buffer Overflow, Press Any Key to Restart.
 
ExaltedNekoKun said:
Wasn't it earlier in this story that Alchemist basically deconstructed Klarion and basically pronounced him a pathetic child wasting its true potential in perhaps the most mind-numbingly stupid ways that can be conceived?

Pretty sure all 52 universe variants of Klarion felt the burn.

Then, to add insult to injury, he summons forth a God King God of Order to literally fulfill its own Orderly Purpose, and in so doing stir the pot with more chaos than Klarion has managed to pull off given the repercussions echoing not just through the world, or time, but also the multiverse itself.

Using a manifestation of Order, without tricks or manipulation to beget Chaos. No plans, schemes, just pure whim and selecting the ideal tool for the job. Kernel Klarion.exe has suffered a Memory Buffer Overflow, Press Any Key to Restart.
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Fairly sure there's a version of klarion who isn't all that shit in the comics. Like everything it varies though like dr fate wasn't always a cunt.
 
Mister Ficser said:
Alchemist ignored the concerned side-eye that Tiffany sent him as he stood up and dusted his hands off on his pants. He dropped the ruined ring, the Spellspring effect having burned out long before Alexander was finished, into his inventory for a later examination and considered the situation.
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Does Alchemist have multiples of those, or just the one?

If he only has the one and wants to put at least a little strain on his MP reserves, FFVI's economizer/celestriad would do something very similar, only instead of spells costing 0 MP, they cost 1 MP. At least he'd be draining his MP pool somewhat, rather than not at all.

He may also want to look into the gem box so he has yet another multiplier for the number of spells he can cast at once (x2).
 
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I mean, could Al just have alexander do his timeline stuff then turn the guy into a stone toad? Seems like there would have been less collateral damage that way.

Toad spell is always the solution after all.
 
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So out of curiosity if everyone has a Magic Stat/Pool how does Alchemist compare to other powerful magical individuals?

Is he at the point of having more Mana then a god of magic? Last character page for him had his MP at 234,546
 
I sorta want to see Alchemist PIMP Hand Zeus so hard he bends over.and his head go up his own bowels

Cock block himself

Was he question at the Car Wash or Ignoring Like BB?

I saw Ice cream Truck. Does he have any or a Frozen Swirl?
 
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