Project: Gamer Ver. 2 (Young Justice/Gamer/Multicross OC)
- Thread starter Mister Ficser
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Hahahahah! Karma came for John's sin stained ass!
It is fucked up that he would casually woo Zatanna after she is legal, even though he got her mother killed, and was protected from his actions from the fact that Zatara couldn't do anything about it. Cause it would have led to his demise and orphaning of his little girl, and if he informed her about the truth she would have worked to get her pound of flesh.
Which would have led to Zatanna's demise...
So a good magician was forced to tolerate a bastard that caused his wife's death, ruined his life, and had to watch his daughter gain a crush on the man who caused her mother to die.
But now she thinks he has a thing for Blokes, and shakes the bed frame of blokes that are that way... And she will not have the nerve to confront him about it, especially since he can no longer just barge in and torture Zatara for kicks, and amuse himself over the fact that the man who blames him for his wife's loss can't do anything to him.
Probably went for the wedding gift of Scotch deliberately because it amused him, just like how it amuses him how those devils can't actually get him because of how he set things up.
Hopefully Alchemist can arrange for more Karma for Mr. Constantine that gets around his "I Win" button...
It is fucked up that he would casually woo Zatanna after she is legal, even though he got her mother killed, and was protected from his actions from the fact that Zatara couldn't do anything about it. Cause it would have led to his demise and orphaning of his little girl, and if he informed her about the truth she would have worked to get her pound of flesh.
Which would have led to Zatanna's demise...
So a good magician was forced to tolerate a bastard that caused his wife's death, ruined his life, and had to watch his daughter gain a crush on the man who caused her mother to die.
But now she thinks he has a thing for Blokes, and shakes the bed frame of blokes that are that way... And she will not have the nerve to confront him about it, especially since he can no longer just barge in and torture Zatara for kicks, and amuse himself over the fact that the man who blames him for his wife's loss can't do anything to him.
Probably went for the wedding gift of Scotch deliberately because it amused him, just like how it amuses him how those devils can't actually get him because of how he set things up.
Hopefully Alchemist can arrange for more Karma for Mr. Constantine that gets around his "I Win" button...
mojtaba
nothing new going on here.
Responsible for? In what way? I tried to google it but couldnt find it.
Was he fighting? To me it seemed like Alchemist perfectly repaid for the slight of having called him homeless, by sending him to the perfect place to "bum a fag".
I'm not sure I could give full specifics, but the thing is, while John always tries to do the right thing in the end, especially when the stakes are high...this is usually only after he causes the problem in the first place or makes it worse by his intervention. And worse yet, that's usually happening because he's pursuing his own selfish ends and or futzing about with demonic loan-sharks (often enough to escape prior demonic debt collectors, making John a one-man magical Ponzi scheme). And he without fail gets good people killed in the cross-fire.
If that was EVERYTHING, it wouldn't be too bad because he still doesn't try to ruin others (who aren't demons anyway), and there's also something going on with his other-dimensional equivalent? Who is handsome, successful, powerful, and a genius...and also a sociopathic asshole dead-set on meddling across the gap of dimensions just to specifically fuck with John. So that's another source of responsibility that isn't John himself.
But the thing is, on top of all that, John is just (kinda understandably) a mediocre person when it comes to his moral fiber. It's not just gambling with his soul amongst demons, it's his self-destructive habits and relationships, his total willingness to leech off people (even when he hates himself afterward), and the ease with which he brings others into his problems or cuts them away. Given how shitty his life is, that nature is perhaps understandable, and the fact he still always chooses to do the right thing in the end is admirable. It doesn't make actually living with him any more pleasant.
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Tbf... Constantine cheats... That's his whole gimmick (either by "summon bigger evil fish!" Or rewriting destiny's handbook with his BS...)
Against individuals whom are excempt from the book/are able to scare the evil fish to bigger off he's completely f***ed.
I will be honest though... I am kinda surprised john hasn't pissed off the endless with his stupidity yet... (Lord knows destiny probably ain't thrilled by John making a mess of his book, john probably also has done something to dream as well (he's john))
Against individuals whom are excempt from the book/are able to scare the evil fish to bigger off he's completely f***ed.
I will be honest though... I am kinda surprised john hasn't pissed off the endless with his stupidity yet... (Lord knows destiny probably ain't thrilled by John making a mess of his book, john probably also has done something to dream as well (he's john))
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Poor Giovanni, a magical dad that can't kick away the hobo his daughter is interested in because the hobo had the touch of big magic on his person.
It's more frustrating that DC Constantine just doesn't learn no matter how much bs he gets into, just use and abuse lady luck for his wins. With how he weilds his luck in the comics you would think he would solve his bloodline curse but nope.
It's more frustrating that DC Constantine just doesn't learn no matter how much bs he gets into, just use and abuse lady luck for his wins. With how he weilds his luck in the comics you would think he would solve his bloodline curse but nope.
NexysDhyArchen
Throne Breaker
Personally, from what I've gathered, Constantine is largely tolerated by the powers that CAN do anything about him because he's most often 'the lesser evil' when dealing with whatever circumstances he comes up in. Zatara doesn't want to hurt his daughter more than he wants to cut through the Gordian Knot of his immediate family's relationship with Constantine. If Alchemist wanted to full on remove Constantine, which he's probably going to need to in order to head off whatever apocalyptic scheme Constantine is gonna build, then I imagine Alchemist will just do what he did to Wotan. Pull Constantine into another Reality where his Gimmick won't work. I'm thinking Dante's Inferno.
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I see the part of Giovanni losing his wife, and wonder if Alchemist can do something to bring his wife back? How much will Giovanni welcome him over then?
The part about drowning Gotham's EVIL is a nice thought, can the EVIL be cursed to Evol levels? Like a Karma curse shift?
The part about drowning Gotham's EVIL is a nice thought, can the EVIL be cursed to Evol levels? Like a Karma curse shift?
Lycanthromancer
The Arcane Fuzz
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If Constantine's ability to futz with Fate is like taking a red marker to a page in the Book of Destiny and flailing away, Alchemist's ability to do the same is like soaking entire chapters in rubbing alcohol to smudge it all into illegibility. There's literally nothing that Constantine can do on a metaphysical level to mess with Alchemist, but the reverse isn't true at all. Al can mess with John all he likes, and John would have to deal with it like any "normal" person with his magical education, such as it is.
In other words, Al can screw with him constantly, and John will basically just have to sit there and take it. And that does get around whatever crap John has BS'd his way into regarding telling Zatanna about her mother, especially since Al can both help her and her father enact vengeance, and protect them from any fallout from it. He'd just have to be the fulcrum around which said vengeance manifests.
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Bob-omb
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Yeah, that's not going to happen. Alchemist already and explicitly knows and has explained about what futzing with Death and her charges can lead to. He bent the rules briefly during Halloween for the Wayne's, and might do the same for Giovanni and Zatanna next Halloween, but thats the extent of it.
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Have…have you read any of Constantine's stories?
Fighting in the sense of interacting with him in an antagonistic manner. Its better to never interact with him as long as possible. That does include not pranking him.
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You assume it's not a special order roast that is either $40-50 a cup, or so niche it will never effect businesses who sell coffee. This is probably an African roast, which means immigration taxes at least.
Constantine's not a villain but he is a bad person.
The only real difference between him and a villain is that a villain plans to destroy someone's life and Constantine does it unintentionally because it's convenient.
He's gotten better though
Lycanthromancer
The Arcane Fuzz
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I don't think this applies to Alchemist, as his relationship with the Book of Destiny basically negates John's ability to do the same, as I mentioned above.
Al is almost assuredly immune to that particular brand of BS, and even if John's "indelible red marker" isn't blotted out by Alchemist's "alcohol soak," everything else in the Book is, meaning John's ink will likely be pretty useless in general, becoming more so the more he interacts with the Champion Gamer of Gaia. It might even get to the point where interacting with Alchemist fucks Constantine over on a metaphysical level, insofar as his "Riding the Wave" becomes more like "Jumping Headfirst into a Violent Undertow."
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As a relative fan of his, the hate is entirely justified. You can argue that he's been trained by his life to accept that he will always lose from everything and to take the first chance of success because subsequent ones will always hurt more, and that's true, but it doesn't change him from being a capital-E Evil person, even if he wants to be a good one, who brings tragedy in his wake.
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John Constantine is so poor that he can never be bi, he can only be loan... And he has a history of defaulting on those!
Ethan Eldritch
Multi-Dimensional Eldritch Tree
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You know, I half thought that John would get distracted at the bar and not come back.
Most bars don't run happy hour during school hours.
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The coffee that Giovanni is testing the infinite water enchantment with, Kopi Luwak, is one of the most expensive types of coffee in the world, with prices ranging between 100 to 500 USD per kilogram. Specialty coffee shops typically charge between 35 and 50 dollars per cup.
It's also the coffee that, infamously, is partially digested and then extracted from animal poop.
That flask is going to save Giovanni a -lot- of money over time.